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Rajk2

Rajk2

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The below Specs that I am planning but not sure if there are other similar components good in that same budget.
So require help.


Ryzen 5 7600x ( 19700rs )
( Now Intel 14600k is at similar price at 20500rs)
MSI b650m gaming wifi( 10300rs )
WD black sn770 1TB ssd ( 6000rs )
Kingston Fury Beast 2x16gb 6000mhz Cl36 RAM ( no stock)
MSI A750GL 750 psu ( 7700rs )
Deepcool Ag400 CPU Cooler(1650rs )
Ant eSports 410TG Case ( 4600 )
Gigabyte M27Q 2k monitor or samsung G4 240hz 1080p monitor ( now everything is upscaling so should I go towards 2k or stick with 1080p, I do play all games AAA and competitive)
GPU I'm thinking of AMD 9070 or 9070XT if price is good for 2k gaming.(Nvidia is premium and the market launch is next month ending or March)

The above prices quoted by Swetha computers CTC Hyderabad

Thinking of using this build for atleast 3 years.

I see Intel 14600k shows much better than Ryzen 5 7600 in some youtube videos but shows approx 200w usage compare to 100w of ryzen 7600x.
Is it wise choice to go with intel or i stick with AMD.
If 14600k is better choice then suggest b760m motherboard with good vrm at similar price of AMD mentioned above.

Thanks
Anyone..
 
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Between the 7600 and the 14600k the latter is better most of the time but that is with 4090 levels of performance most of the time you would be GPU limited and thus at maximum there will be a 5-10% performance difference and that too at 1080p in very light competitive games like cs2 or cs:go at 1440p they will perform almost similar in terms of gaming. That being said intel systems generally tend to feel snappier and more responsive than AMD systems and there is also a significant difference in their productivity performance in the favour of Intel, but if you plan to upgrade the cpu on the same platform in the future then your only option is AMD as AM5 will be supported at least for 1 more new generation of CPUs after the 9000 series and maybe even more. Also I would recommend going for either the 7600 non-x or the 13600k if either of them offer some savings with regards to your choice as both of them have almost the same performance as the ones you chose.

Changes recommended:
CPU: 7600 non-x or 13600k

RAM: If going with AMD it is highly recommended to go for 6000Mhz at CL30 so maybe the GSkill Trident Z5 32Gb (16Gbx2) Rgb Ddr5 6000Mhz Desktop (10.8k)

CASE: DeepCool Matrexx 55 Mesh V4 C ARGB, it is 5.4k but comes with addressable rgb PWM fans, which means you can control the fan curve and the rgb according to your preferences which is truly as godsend and the case is generally better quality than what ant esports has to offer.

MONITOR: It is very subject some people like the contrast of VA while others like the fast pixel response times of IPS but since there are many new monitors which have come to the market recently I would suggest you to go for maybe an OLED monitor, the new models offered are relatively much cheaper than the one's which were available earlier with the cheapest one being 58k, I know that sounds a lot but for that you get amazing HDR capabilities, instant response times, inky blacks and rich bright colours with would not only improve your visual fidelity but also help you in competitive gaming at its 1440p resolution and 240Hz refresh rate. But you can also go for the M27Q or maybe the MSI G274QPX. The OLED is the MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2 which is available for 58k at computech.
 
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CPURyzen 5 7600x 19500
MotherboardMSI b650m gaming wifi10266
SSDWD black sn770 1TB ssd 5780
RAMKingston Fury Beast 2x16gb 6000mhz Cl36 RAM8600
Power SupplyMSI A750GL 750 psu 7400
CoolerDeepcool Ag400 CPU Cooler1600
CabinetMsi Mag 320R4490
MonitorAcer VG 271U M3 2K 180 hz 14300
GPU Gigabyte Radeon RX 7700XT 12GB39500
Total 111436

You can Go for Ryzen 5 7600 non-X Edition also priced at 17700 including GST..

All prices are Including GST..

For Any Queries Visit Clarion Computers Pvt. LTD
 
Kaching999 said:
Between the 7600 and the 14600k the latter is better most of the time but that is with 4090 levels of performance most of the time you would be GPU limited and thus at maximum there will be a 5-10% performance difference and that too at 1080p in very light competitive games like cs2 or cs:go at 1440p they will perform almost similar in terms of gaming. That being said intel systems generally tend to feel snappier and more responsive than AMD systems and there is also a significant difference in their productivity performance in the favour of Intel, but if you plan to upgrade the cpu on the same platform in the future then your only option is AMD as AM5 will be supported at least for 1 more new generation of CPUs after the 9000 series and maybe even more. Also I would recommend going for either the 7600 non-x or the 13600k if either of them offer some savings with regards to your choice as both of them have almost the same performance as the ones you chose.

Changes recommended:
CPU: 7600 non-x or 13600k

RAM: If going with AMD it is highly recommended to go for 6000Mhz at CL30 so maybe the GSkill Trident Z5 32Gb (16Gbx2) Rgb Ddr5 6000Mhz Desktop (10.8k)

CASE: DeepCool Matrexx 55 Mesh V4 C ARGB, it is 5.4k but comes with addressable rgb PWM fans, which means you can control the fan curve and the rgb according to your preferences which is truly as godsend and the case is generally better quality than what ant esports has to offer.

MONITOR: It is very subject some people like the contrast of VA while others like the fast pixel response times of IPS but since there are many new monitors which have come to the market recently I would suggest you to go for maybe an OLED monitor, the new models offered are relatively much cheaper than the one's which were available earlier with the cheapest one being 58k, I know that sounds a lot but for that you get amazing HDR capabilities, instant response times, inky blacks and rich bright colours with would not only improve your visual fidelity but also help you in competitive gaming at its 1440p resolution and 240Hz refresh rate. But you can also go for the M27Q or maybe the MSI G274QPX. The OLED is the MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2 which is available for 58k at computech.
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Well, my only concern with 14600k is power usage, most video's shows its usage of 200W. And I don't do overclock. I don't mind changing motherboard too.

I really wanted to get Ryzen 5 9600 non X one because 9600x gave no stutters in games shown stable performance unlike 7600x but don't know whether they will launch in India or not..coz even b850 motherboards still not yet launch since they were announced..

For RAM , thinking of Gskill Flare x5 6000mhz CL36 which is 8600, CL30 which is 9500.Tridentz is 11500rs. And I don't mind if it's plain instead of RGB basically they function the same right...
Some RAM testing videos shows 2 fps gain with CL30. So CL36 would be just fine I guess..

For case , thinking of Ant eSports 611 Air, It's bigger or should I go Deepcool?

For Monitor my price is strictly 20k MAX. I cannot put a price of a TV. Have to adjust for GPU also as we do not know prices of 9070 XT or 5070 in India. So either Gigabyte M27Q or MSI G274QPF E2 for 2k or Samsung G4 240hz if 1080p.
But I'm thinking of going 2k because the games are demanding these days and upscaling is must. Upscaling on 1080p look blurry and poor quality..
MSI has 400nits of brightness for HDR and 1ms GTG and Adaptive sync while M27Q has 350nits, AMD freesync premium and 1ms mprt..
So I think MSI has the edge.

Now that AMD announced 9070 XT and 9070 will be available in March, so will be getting RTX 5070 when they come next month..
 
Here checkout the 1% lows in the review they are pretty much identical:
Also check out the ViewSonic VX2758A-2K-PRO-3 it is a 2k 240hz monitor which at about 21k seem like a great deal
 
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Kaching999 said:
Here checkout the 1% lows in the review they are pretty much identical:
Also check out the ViewSonic VX2758A-2K-PRO-3 it is a 2k 240hz monitor which at about 21k seem like a great deal
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Well, most people in comment section tells the frame time flat line avoids the chance of stutter even it's one or two time and gives smoother play.


Between , can u also suggest any good keyboard with anti ghosting for 1k price
 
they fame rate counters for both of them seem to be different look at they interval at which the frame time readings are updating they are different the 7600x frame time readings are updating much more frequently that is why it seems like it is stuttering but it is really not while actually it has much better 0.1% lows than the 9600x look at the numbers as the frame times are not getting updated at the same frequency.
 
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Rajk2 said:
can u also suggest any good keyboard with anti ghosting for 1k price
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are you looking for mechanical cause your are not going to get it at that price
Rajk2 said:
Do we have good service of viewsonic here?
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you might have to look for other threads talking about it or make a separate one asking for others experiences but you probably won't have much trouble in tier 1 cities.

you might want to look at this video too:

 
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you might want to spend a little more and get something with more quality but under 1000 there are a couple evofox and ant esports keyboards available so you can check them out.
 
Kaching999 said:
Here checkout the 1% lows in the review they are pretty much identical:
Also check out the ViewSonic VX2758A-2K-PRO-3 it is a 2k 240hz monitor which at about 21k seem like a great deal
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Reviewer did not said anything about input lag or motion blur test. 1ms mprt on a 300nits seems not good to enable..I'll try to find reviews, and price from local stores
Kaching999 said:
you might want to spend a little more and get something with more quality but under 1000 there are a couple evofox and ant esports keyboards available so you can check them out.
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Could u mention some names..my friend has hp k500f which he purchased for 900rs and it's msrp is 1099.. But on Amazon it shows 1200( Crazy).. Between hp keyboards don't have support in India(confirmed by my friend)
 
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Could u mention some names..my friend has hp k500f which he purchased for 900rs and it's msrp is 1099.. But on Amazon it shows 1200( Crazy).. Between hp keyboards don't have support in India(confirmed by my friend)
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yeah prices on amazon are a lot of times higher than the local prices so do ask around at shops also logitech has pretty good after sales support in my experience but that can vary between different service centres
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Reviewer did not said anything about input lag or motion blur test. 1ms mprt on a 300nits seems not good to enable..I'll try to find reviews, and price from local stores
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Other great options are:
MSI G274QPX (about 25.5k online will probably be cheaper offline)
Asus XG27ACS (about 24.3k online will probably be cheaper offline and it is also the best of the bunch IMO for high refresh rate gaming)

Remember that all these are good for fast response times but won't be able to produce a good HDR image or contrast ratio. Also I wanted to say that instead going for the 5070 I would suggest you go for a used 4080 as the prices have come down by a lot and some are selling for 65k and the new 5070 other than the FE model which is 60k will probably cost more than that and the performance will most certainly be worse.
 
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Kaching999 said:
yeah prices on amazon are a lot of times higher than the local prices so do ask around at shops also logitech has pretty good after sales support in my experience but that can vary between different service centres

Other great options are:
MSI G274QPX (about 25.5k online will probably be cheaper offline)
Asus XG27ACS (about 24.3k online will probably be cheaper offline and it is also the best of the bunch IMO for high refresh rate gaming)

Remember that all these are good for fast response times but won't be able to produce a good HDR image or contrast ratio. Also I wanted to say that instead going for the 5070 I would suggest you go for a used 4080 as the prices have come down by a lot and some are selling for 65k and the new 5070 other than the FE model which is 60k will probably cost more than that and the performance will most certainly be worse.
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They seem good options. But why I don't want to put more than 20k is, there will be hardly any performance difference except refresh rate say 180hz to 240hz, instead IMO for me it's wise to spend that extra money on a better processor say I could get 7700 if I spend on processor over 7600x..
But I do check offline prices.

For GPU, my price is 50k, that's why I was waiting for 9070 or 9070 XT.(Last gen 7800 xt is not worth it coz it has similar performance as 6800XT but less power consumption), 7900 XT is only the worthy card.From nvidia 4070 super is at 55k and 4070 ti is at 67k. Now AMD cards coming late March and 5070 starts at 60k. I'm in dilemma what to get, can't get older ones coz newer ones coming but newer ones are pricey and delayed...
 
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4070 super is at 55k and 4070 ti is at 67k
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Those are online prices, offline they are selling for sub 55 k, 4070super(48k) and 4070ti(53k) and used you can pick them under 42k with warranty of around 1.5-2 years. I would recommend the 4070 super
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I could get 7700 if I spend on processor over 7600x..
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If you are only looking for a gaming you won't pretty much any performance increase going from 7700 to 7600x as gaming especially with a mid range GPU, all the benchmarks you see are with a 4090 which can get bottlenecked but a 4070ti won't especially at 1440p or higher. That is why I suggest spending more on a monitor as it can vastly change the experience just look at the video I share. It is not only about HDR or high refresh rate the Asus one that I recommended has great response time performance which will help the game feel more responsive and also doesn't have much dark smearing and ghosting trails which are commonly found in non-oled monitors.
 
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Those are online prices, offline they are selling for sub 55 k, 4070super(48k) and 4070ti(53k) and used you can pick them under 42k with warranty of around 1.5-2 years. I would recommend the 4070 super

If you are only looking for a gaming you won't pretty much any performance increase going from 7700 to 7600x as gaming especially with a mid range GPU, all the benchmarks you see are with a 4090 which can get bottlenecked but a 4070ti won't especially at 1440p or higher. That is why I suggest spending more on a monitor as it can vastly change the experience just look at the video I share. It is not only about HDR or high refresh rate the Asus one that I recommended has great response time performance which will help the game feel more responsive and also doesn't have much dark smearing and ghosting trails which are commonly found in non-oled monitors.
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From what I get from local store RTX 4070 super is 55k. How come 4070 ti super is 53k and where, or is it used one?

I checked Asus monitor review, it is great coz it's ROG. I'll check the local price.. I have to save some money for GPU because 9070 XT is delayed...
 
Rajk2 said:
From what I get from local store RTX 4070 super is 55k. How come 4070 ti super is 53k and where, or is it used one?

I checked Asus monitor review, it is great coz it's ROG. I'll check the local price.. I have to save some money for GPU because 9070 XT is delayed...
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Check Facebook groups regularly a ton of people sell RMAed parts there which have been replaced and are brand new. Also in order to wait for the 9070xt you can get a used 6700xt now for about 16-18k and then sell it later on when you get the 9070xt, net it will cost you only about 3-4k but you will have a graphic card in the mean time to play games.

some deals:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/acroforgamers/posts/9243472199101562
https://www.facebook.com/groups/acroforgamers/posts/9200236293425153/

But there are also scams being run by some gigabyte service centres where they resell used mining GPUs with only 3-6 months of warranty and tack on a 2-3 year warranty themselves and some people have had bad rma and warranty experiences with them so you need to do your due diligence before buying anything used or rma.
 
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Check Facebook groups regularly a ton of people sell RMAed parts there which have been replaced and are brand new. Also in order to wait for the 9070xt you can get a used 6700xt now for about 16-18k and then sell it later on when you get the 9070xt, net it will cost you only about 3-4k but you will have a graphic card in the mean time to play games.

some deals:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/acroforgamers/posts/9243472199101562
https://www.facebook.com/groups/acroforgamers/posts/9200236293425153/

But there are also scams being run by some gigabyte service centres where they resell used mining GPUs with only 3-6 months of warranty and tack on a 2-3 year warranty themselves and some people have had bad rma and warranty experiences with them so you need to do your due diligence before buying anything used or rma.
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I'll check it..
 
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