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I think the pos trestriction will be too much against ppl like me who have < 50 posts in 2 years ! ... This does not mean I'm spammer/not genuine but simply that i post rarely thats it... Not lets say i have to do few deals, what will be your opinion ? Low post count is no reason for penalty
 
@Mohit

And what would that do? People can see the thread right?. :(

Its the system of quantitative rules/posts itself that allowed him to post the thread. He did no wrong. He wast even morally or ethically wrong. He fulfilled the criteria set by the forum. Because of all that some may say that he is doing wrong, but 2 people actually did benefit by it. You cant blame the guy, blame the system.

Oh. I joined TE just coz of market section. was looking for a sound card. :). Everything needs a start. I dont see the point of threads like this.
 
I agree with you. That is why i said 35 posts plus a 30 day probation period. I am sure anyone who wants to be on TE not just for the market section, but to contribute to the community and be a part of it will be willing to obey those rules. And anyone who says that even that won't be enough to stop the spammers, you give me an option that others can't break. Nothing is foolproof. The best we can do is make it tougher to bypass.

such people should be banned
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@Gaurish - Banning is not a solution. The member did nothing "illegal" . All he did was join TE for its market, not the community.

EDIT : Just saw m-jeri's post :P

Oh. I joined TE just coz of market section. was looking for a sound card. . Everything needs a start. I don't see the point of threads like this.
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Good enough. Join TE for the market, but then stick around for a short time and contribute before you can actually use it. Is that too much to ask for ? If you want to use the Market, then do it right. Don't misuse the system by just spamming away to be able to fulfill the restrictions. That is the point of this thread.

You stuck around. But i can guarantee 8/10 people don't. Just look at the difference between the actual members and the active members just as a reference (though cannot be taken as a proper stat). The main problem begins when someone new enters and cons another member. This can happen with older members too, but from what i can see, it's mostly newer members. Think about it. It makes it difficult for a banned member to quickly return with a new ID too.
 
The best system I propose are based on 2 things.

Members who have the following 2 things should only be allowed to post/create thread in market section. Let him/her view it. so that its beneficial to him too. He can PM folks.

1. A 15/30 day probation period as phoenix said

2. A Minimum reputation point. Like a single dot.

The first one will kill the urgency and most drifters will just float away. and the second system makes it necessary to actually post SOMETHING good. even a single post be enough.
 
my simple question still remains unanswered!

why was his thread not closed when it had come to the notice of most of the mods that he spammed his way into the market section by 35 posts and somebody reports his posts and his post count go below 35

but by that time he has already gained access in the market and created the thread!

even though it was detected late but still i got detected that wat he had done , then y didnt the mods close his thread!

i guess 35 post count shud remain plus add minimum 1 month restriction on newbies joining TE to post a thread in market with immediate effect
 
It seems my sale here has rubbed off a lot of people the wrong way.

Let me make it clear that it was never my intention to abuse the forum or simply buy/sell and disappear. I created this account in october and put up the monitor after a month of regularly visiting the site for reviews/news/deals/discussions etc. But I did not post often.

I liked the community here and thought that it was safe to buy/sell here and so decided to put up by monitor for sale here. As for me spamming in the games forum, I had to resort to that because I wasn't aware of the restrictions when I first joined and found myself short of the required post count when I wanted to create the thread. I tried to post whatever was relevant to the topic. I've seen lots of other people simply "bump" their way to 35 posts, at least i wasn't posting rubbish. If there are more restrictions, then there will be even more spamming.

I suggest that the number of posts read and the amount of time spent viewing the forums should also be taken into account. I don't think the number of posts reflects anything about a person. I'm sure there are lots of trustworthy people who have been around for a long time yet with low post count. What is so sacrosanct about a person with a high post count ?
 
shailesh1986 said:
It seems my sale here has rubbed off a lot of people the wrong way.

Let me make it clear that it was never my intention to abuse the forum or simply buy/sell and disappear. I created this account in october and put up the monitor after a month of regularly visiting the site for reviews/news/deals/discussions etc. But I did not post often.

I liked the community here and thought that it was safe to buy/sell here and so decided to put up by monitor for sale here. As for me spamming in the games forum, I had to resort to that because I wasn't aware of the restrictions when I first joined and found myself short of the required post count when I wanted to create the thread. I tried to post whatever was relevant to the topic. I've seen lots of other people simply "bump" their way to 35 posts, at least i wasn't posting rubbish. If there are more restrictions, then there will be even more spamming.

I suggest that the number of posts read and the amount of time spent viewing the forums should also be taken into account. I don't think the number of posts reflects anything about a person. I'm sure there are lots of trustworthy people who have been around for a long time yet with low post count. What is so sacrosanct about a person with a high post count ?
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What you say is absolutely true. But please don't tell em what you did was the correct way to reach your 35 posts. Is 35 posts too high ? And let me point it out once again, the post count or the reputation or hell, even the iTrader rating cannot guarantee that the dealer is trustworthy. I am pretty sure that slowly you would have made it to your 35 posts without having to make 35 posts in under 5 minutes, bumping up 3 month old threads which had died for no reason. If entering the market is so high on your priority list, then why not post something sensible in the forum instead of just posting any kind of rubbish ? I am pretty sure you and the hundred other new members are properly equipped to do that. You chose the gaming section for your post count. You could well have posted information on a game nobody discussed, or maybe put in your comments in the current ongoing discussions, or maybe even started some interesting thread. All we want is a decent contribution from you.

I in no way am calling you untrustworthy. And to tell you the truth, i don't think it's your fault. As someone correctly said in one of the above posts, it's the system.
 
hate to say this but saw another guy making a dash for the 35 mark. was on 24 posts today sometime back and is on 31 now. most probably wil be on the 35 mark and will post his FS thread in market section.

guys been hitting one line posts and opening new threads with silly stuff posted in them.

:@

i hate such people who bend rules.
 
^^ I think i know what you are talking about and i too observed the same. Let the thread in market come.

Btw seems that person is unaware that general section posts don't count :P

Edit: Expect a thread in market soon.
 
Well obviously such people cant be stoped :@, just make it harder to join the market section.
1.The person should have 45 posts.:cool2:
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2.should have logged in for 45 days ;). Just having a probation period from the date of joining wont be good enough!
 
I think we all should also report any suspicious member to the mods so as to assist them better. We can report posts made by those members. Also chances are that the new member will start spamming all the categories with ridiculous and irrelevant replies and may even posts lots in GT possibly unknown from fact that GT section posts are not counted.
 
raksrules said:
^^ I think i know what you are talking about and i too observed the same. Let the thread in market come.
Btw seems that person is unaware that general section posts don't count :P

Edit: Expect a thread in market soon.
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make 35 posts
create FS thread in market
then u report his post
posts deleted
still that market thread exisis
and the mods and admins just cant do anything other than wait for the sale to be over
the thread creator laughs on the TE Rules
and me pissed off :P :P
 
^^ Exactly what i saw...the person had more than 35 posts and in the evening the post count dropped to less than 25 but still he was watching threads in market section. Which means that the background process which triggers access to market when post count is > 35 does not revoke the privilege when it goes below 35. I know this may be bit difficult to set so another option is to first only set few rules like posts plus number of days plus something else.
 
I still dont understand why people are so adamant abt this.

We all do stuff like this. we all circumvent real life rules EVERYDAY. why so special here?.
the guy spams or he PM's the buyer. if he is not a fraud let him be. it actually only depend upon the seller to decide wether he should or should not deal with him.

A 40 or 4000 post count doesnt make a jerk into a saint.
 
What you say is absolutely true. But please don't tell em what you did was the correct way to reach your 35 posts. Is 35 posts too high ? And let me point it out once again, the post count or the reputation or hell, even the iTrader rating cannot guarantee that the dealer is trustworthy. I am pretty sure that slowly you would have made it to your 35 posts without having to make 35 posts in under 5 minutes, bumping up 3 month old threads which had died for no reason. If entering the market is so high on your priority list, then why not post something sensible in the forum instead of just posting any kind of rubbish ? I am pretty sure you and the hundred other new members are properly equipped to do that. You chose the gaming section for your post count. You could well have posted information on a game nobody discussed, or maybe put in your comments in the current ongoing discussions, or maybe even started some interesting thread. All we want is a decent contribution from you.

I in no way am calling you untrustworthy. And to tell you the truth, i don't think it's your fault. As someone correctly said in one of the above posts, it's the system.
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:P

Just because it happens everywhere, does it have to happen here also ? It's because we can do something about this here is why we are voicing our thoughts.
 
Exactly what will u accomplish by voicing ur thoughts?.

Are u saying that after 45 posts the user will be a genuine one?. The actual fraud's will be smarter than that.
 
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