CPU/Mobo New Mobo/CPU which one??

amol0010 said:
Ok..what is the cheapest S939 combo solution i would find ?

Looks like the socket S754 has come to a dead end.
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Socket 754 hasent come to a dead end still

Have a look at its gr8 OCable AMD Newark Core

Which hits 3.2Ghz on Air [if i am not wrong]

Donno if its the cheapest.

MSI RS480 with ATI Xpress 200 Onboard GPU & AMD 3000+ Winchester Core

Becoz it will provide you the cheapest CPU+GPU+Mobo Solution.

No need to spend on GPU.

The drawback of the MSI is no overclock ability.
Every thing doesnt come at a low cost
 
Donno if its the cheapest.

MSI RS480 with ATI Xpress 200 Onboard GPU & AMD 3000+ Winchester Core
Becoz it will provide you the cheapest CPU+GPU+Mobo Solution.
No need to spend on GPU.
The drawback of the MSI is no overclock ability.

Every thing doesnt come at a low cost
 
do consider MSI RS480 + Athlon 64 2800+, will be cheaper and not much perf. difference if your not into heavy gaming et al.
 
Grease Monk said:
the above has an agp slot, so as long as u dont want to overclock it should be alright.
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The MSI radeon xpress board DOES NOT have an AGP slot. It has a PEG x16 slot. Stop spreading misinformation if you are unsure urself.
 
Slowest available A64 S939 is also 3000+ not 2800+
RS480 is Ati Xpress 200 chipset based PCI express solution with onboard vide.
If you have 9700 which you plan to use then you will have to go for AGP system.
So you will have to buy AGP mobo like ASUS A8V or MSI K8N Neo2.
Both of these motherboards are not cheap.
And your budget of 9.5K is not gona permit you to go for any S939 system.
Not even the cheapest one.
You will need close to 16-17K to go for a good AGP system with 3000+ if you are going in for brand new stuff.
Otherwise have patience, save up a bit and then upgrade or have a look at stuff for sale in Market. Me and couple of others have 2nd had S939 stuff for sale.
You will get better performing parts for about 15K.
 
Funky has summed it up well.

MSI RS480 is a PCI Express board, so while it is the cheapest Socket939 board, you would need a PCI-Ex graphics card if gaming is your objective.

If you have a good AGP card and would like to protect your investment, your only option is an AGP Socket939 board.

Quad Master said:
Socket 754 hasent come to a dead end still

Have a look at its gr8 OCable AMD Newark Core

Which hits 3.2Ghz on Air [if i am not wrong]
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The Newark core is a Mobile A64 core - as is the case with any Mobile proc, the chances of getting it here are absolutely impossible. Unless you have good buddies in the US, you cant hope to get a Newark.

Moreover its based on the San-diego core, so whatever OC you get on a San-diego is what you'll get with a Newark as well (including the price not to mention the added extra you'll have to pay for a Mobile chip). Considering in a Socket939 setup, dual-channel automatically adds 200 PR points (or more) to the AMD rating, a Socket754 chip would need that much more Mhz to make up for the difference.
 
You can get those (754+939) solution motherboards from asrock, and get a64 2800+, it would cost around 9.5k. That ways u won't exceed your budget, and your future upgradibilty is also not hampered.
 
Hitman said:
You can get those (754+939) solution motherboards from asrock, and get a64 2800+, it would cost around 9.5k. That ways u won't exceed your budget, and your future upgradibilty is also not hampered.
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That board sucks :P. Just about in every department. Its better to buy a good skt 754 board instead :P.
 
Chaos said:
That board sucks :P. Just about in every department. Its better to buy a good skt 754 board instead :P.
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In case you don't know, due to a64's integrated memory controller, every a64 board available in market has similar performance.The only thing that seprates a expensive board with cheaper one is features and overclockability.
And i can assure you, the board is fairly feature rich, atleast for the price its available.Also there are some overclocking options too, so compared to MSI Radeon Xpress Boards with no overclockability, it is better and about good 2k cheaper too.
 
Hitman said:
In case you don't know, due to a64's integrated memory controller, every a64 board available in market has similar performance.The only thing that seprates a expensive board with cheaper one is features and overclockability.
And i can assure you, the board is fairly feature rich, atleast for the price its available.Also there are some overclocking options too, so compared to MSI Radeon Xpress Boards with no overclockability, it is better and about good 2k cheaper too.
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I won't recommend a sis/uli chipset board to anyone... They suck... Driver support is pathetically poor. Sis and overclocking :rofl:
 
Its not really about the performance aspect between the boards. Its more that Asrock isnt noted for bringing out "quality" boards. Sure you'll save quite a bundle, but the unusual problems you may land up with later on are just not worth the headache. A poorly built board , even with a good processor would do no justice to it. The bottom line is you get what you pay for.

Combining two sockets onto a single motherboard isnt an ideal solution however good the idea may look on paper, else why wouldn't every other motherboard maker out there have come up with something similar? :)
 
Mobos must be from
1.> ASUS [Best cost & stable]
2.> MSI [costly NF4]
3.> Gigabyte [so so]
Atleast in India

DFI Lan Party is my top of the line choice but not available here. :(
 
Chaos said:
I won't recommend a sis/uli chipset board to anyone... They suck... Driver support is pathetically poor. Sis and overclocking :rofl:
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That's a very debatable issue, 'cause if you look that aspect, u'll only get stuck with nVidia boards. Even Via boards suffer from driver issues, which they don't even bother to solve.
AND FYI, ASrock is regularly giving out BIOS and Drivers updates for this paticular board.

Crazy_Eddy said:
Combining two sockets onto a single motherboard isnt an ideal solution however good the idea may look on paper, else why wouldn't every other motherboard maker out there have come up with something similar?
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'cause companies want people to upgrade things as much as possible :P
Other possible reason could be, if they do it, geeks and geeky websites would give them a thumbs down, 'cause of bad layout, a good layout is not possible in such dual solution, but as such it dosen't matter, 'cause for a guy on a tight budget, layout is of least possible concern.
 
VIA has improved their driver support a lot. I did not had any troubles with VIA drivers this time around with A8V dlx.Sure their driver cycle is slow but the drivers they had in past year or so are damn stable and very few conflicts were there.

ULI chips are technically very good but still lack proper driver support. SIS is also famous for AGP problems.
 
There is a problem of 6600gt AGP 'causing display corruption with new 71.xx series of drivers(even the WHQL ones) on some via chipsets.Nvidia dosen't fix it, 'cause they say its a via problem, via dosen't fix it ,they say its nvidia problem, it has been remained unfixed for a long time(and possibly could be even existing today).
ASrock on the other hand is regularly giving out specific optimised BIOS for nvidia cards for this board
 
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