Nokia 5800 : XpressMusic Review

Here is a very short hands-on review of the ownership. Feel free to ask any specific questions.......Although this must have been done already and you must have read the reviews a 100 times till now :)

Please drop in a line if the review is liked / disliked. Thanks.

The Bundle

Neat bundle package set. Phone + 3.5mm Headphones + Multimedia Controller 3.5mm jack + Strap + Stand + TV Out Cables + Extra Stylus + Manuals + Warranty Card + Battery + Adapter + Mini CD + 8GB MicroSD Card.

Thumbs up: Neat bundle.

Thumbs down:The default scratch guard on the phone has a design all over it. :mad: Nokia should have either left it completely blank or bundled a fully plain scratch guard along in the bundle.

The Startup

So I popped the battery in and started the device. The device bootup time was less than a minute up and running completely. The usual Nokia logo at the startup ( which can be replaced by Text as usual as in older models as well )

I loaded about 2-3 gig of data and even with it , the bootups finishes under 30 seconds currently.

[BREAK= 1st Impressions/The Sim&Memory Card]

1st Impressions

Well, I sat thinking there, wat! nothing different. The phone really doesn't seem different as in...its yet another SYMBIAN phone, I've been using symbian since the Nokia 3650 days so this was no different. Was very impressed with the responsiveness of the phone and the touch is very sensitive. The double select feature doesn't bother and it took me precisely 5-10 mins to get used to it. Its simple and you would get used to it eventually.

The SIM and Memory Card

The sim and the memory card have slots of the left side of the phone. As shown in the review of the phone on youtube where it was said the slot is 'difficult to get to' , I din't find any difficulty with the same. To remove the memory card , there is a option when you press the main on/off button on the phone that says 'Remove Memory Card', something like 'Safely Remove Hardware' like we have in windows. The sim slot is push and hold type unlike the memory card slots. The sim card goes in and is held there by no spring - press retention method , its just a usual slot. To insert the SIM card you do not need to remove the backcover , but to remove the sim card you need to turn the device off , remove the back panel and then push out the sim card from the phone , painfull mechanism.

[BREAK=Other Layouts/The Rear Panel]

Other Layouts

The right side of the phone has the 'excellent' screen lock/phone lock latch. This is the best thing i've ever seen in any phone till date. Best accessed using the right hand only. Above there are the Volume up and down keys which act as zoom in and out keys in the camera function. The rest usual volume control in multimedia applications and call volume control. Also at the button the camera shutter key , which when suppressed would bring up the camera, half click used to do AF during taking pictures.

Another thing to be noted is that the phone vibrates as a feedback everytime a touch is made to it , this can be successfully turned on/off as per users preference. I've personally turned it off since i din't like it. However, each time the phone is unlocked from its locked position using the slider the phone vibrates as an indication that the phone has been successfully unlocked. This again is unwanted and I was not able to figure out a way to turn this feature off , This also needs to be addressed by Nokia in the upcoming firmware for users like me who would want this feature off , just sliding of the latch is enough to lock / unlock the phone with no feedback mechanism required.

At the bottom nothing but just the mic. On top is the 3.5mm jack which is also the TV Out jack. Then the USB and the power connector. I checked the specs on the charger with the older similar small pin charger and they were different. Hence refrain from using the older one on the phone. (In my case I had to use a flat pin to round pin converter for the charger)

On plugging in anything in the 3.5mm jack a small menu pops up asking 'What has been plugged in'. On selection it would switch to that particular mode. The phone automatically detects if the headset connected is with mic or without mic, Thats what amazed me most , when I plugged in my HD201 (music discussed later) it gave me a nice prompt saying 'Use Phone Microphone' , which meant I can continue on a call on 'any' attached headphone and converse with the phone mic ! On connecting the headset with the mic the usual functionality of that was restored and no prompt was shown.

The Pick / Cancel and the Menu buttons are easily accessible and have no issues with them. Nor are they cranky or make a sound.

On the other side are the stereo speakers separated by the SIM/Memory card slots.

The Rear Panel

Well, Nothing different or unknown here , a standard flat panel with a 3.2MP Carl Zeius Camera with Dual LED flash leds. The rear panel is a 'sweat' magnet and tends to keep those stains on them!

[BREAK=Multimedia/ransferring of Music /USB]

Multimedia

Well, its a mixed bag actually. The audio quality is just amazing and so is the video quality (playback). Haven't really transferred a video to check on the same. The audio is really good even on the stock headphones but quality on better earphones are even better. The application is fast and doesnt lag any user inputs. On the other hand the camera was a little wee bit let down for me. It underperformed my expectations. Color loss was evident in some of the pictures that were taken in low-light situations. However photos taken in sunlight were fine. Video on the other hand was a little disappointing as well. I'm relying on the next firmware of Nokia to fix these issues. The camera application has lots of user options and customisatin options available, like different modes / color scheme / quality , etc etc. Good bundle with the software I must admit.

Transferring of Music / USB

I haven't like checked the exact transfer rate and benchmark it and all , all I did is took a folder with 2GB of music and simply drag - dropped the folder onto the music folder of the phone , running in MASS STORAGE Mode. An odd 150+ files , the transfer happened without any issues and took a little over 9 mins for the transfer to complete. Once done , the internal default music player automatically detected that files have been added and updated the music library and it was up and running. Played music on loudspeaker (at middle range volume ) for about 20-25 mins at stretch and there is NO heating up of the phone anywhere , nor the rear panel near the battery , nor near the speakers.....(next I'm going to check out some videos, just figuring out the same to convert an .avi file to .mp4 at the correct resolution.

[BREAK=Video/Messaging]

Video

Haven't been able to hook on to a 3rd party app for the 5800 XM for playback of videos yet , Div X player for mobile phones is still not supported by the 5800 and might take a while for its release. Although I did try out a random .mp4 file which by default plays in "Real player" of the phone and yet again , it just doesn't disappoint. Crisp , No lags , lockup or flutter at all. Bang on target. Its like a mini wide screen :)

Messaging

Well, T9 lovers rejoice , no adaptation required at all.....all you have to do is use the normal keypad layout and type away to glory. Zero adaptation skills needed.....It dint even take me a minute. SMS'ing is a breeze. The handwriting pad is AMAZING as well...its fantastic....the best part was the symbol recognition messaging system. Suppose i put up a 'custom' symbol and associate a message (for eg. Hi, How are you doing today?)....Then all I have to do is draw the custom symbol and the message "Hi, How are you doing today?" will automatically be inputted , amazing huh! :) ......so to summarize for sms'ing....10/10 for it!

[BREAK=GPS/Wifi]GPS

I decided to check on the GPS and loaded Mumbai Maps, All I wanted to do is pure tracking but at all times i was not able to lock on to any satellites, the bar would just not move and keep on saying connecting to GPS, but it wouldn't search for the satellite for a lock on the position... :no: This is what I did :

- Deleted all MAPS.

- Loaded the Map Loader software which came in a CD

- Uninstalled all the MAPS as default

- Downloaded new maps.....

Still haven't been able to check on the GPS part. I read elsewhere that what I would need to go is allow it to connect externally 'once' before it would allow running navigation offline. I have already updated the maps for India with the latest update map pack from Nokia.

WIFI

Tested the WIFI access. Since my WLAN is mac id protected I had to look out and search for my MAC; I know for sure its easy cakewalk on Windows OS phones , but no where could I find the WLAN MAC ID of my phone...

Google came to the rescue here......

For everyone's reference , all credit and thanks to the original poster of the page : Phones:Nokia keypad codes - Gammu.org Wiki

*#mac0wlan# (*#62209526#) Show MAC address of the WLAN adapter
WLAN experience was nice....downloading a 1.5mb file (read:Google Maps) took around 3 minutes. Browsing on the phone was a good experience and smooth. The browser does need a upgrade. It played flash content right out of the box...Various options like saving password , blocking pop ups are also there....

[BREAK=Gaming/Conclusion]

Gaming

The pre-loaded games are "Bounce" and "RT GR" both games fully playable on accelerometer and man-oh-man, Wat fun it is. No controls , no touching all you gotta do is move the phone and let the phone do whats it supposed to do. I even connected the phone to the TV and checked it out just for the sake of checking it out....it sure did lag. However on the phone its fun for sure.

Overall Conclusion

Overall, its an excellent device. IMO its a definite buy for people who 'do not' have a dedicated multimedia device like a i pod or anything else or who do not have multimedia enabled phones already. The camera picture and video quality is a major turnoff currently though :no: I have to agree here , N82 beats the hell out of this cam where as picture quality is considered. Deviating a little off topic from the 5800, if we are to talk about picture quality of the cam in the 5mp category, the Omnia steals the show for me.

[BREAK=Bugs]

BUGS

Here are some of the bugs that I have personally found out......

- The auto rotate doesn't work in messaging after 2 times. I.e if i do the rotate thing 2 times , the 3rd time the screen gets stuck in the default mode only and will not switch to landscape mode at all......

- After the phone has been put in USB data mode for data transfer the phone automatically resets the Messaging Inbox to go to Phone Memory , then we need to manually go into settings and set it back to the card memory.....

- During multimedia playback in full screen like videos and pictures , if we call for the Options menu the screen flickers as in to refresh the menu........

- Big BUG - The phone due to some weird reason stopped showing me call alerts. For eg. It would show i have a missed call , but it wouldn't show me from whom , the sms's stopped coming in even though i was able to send out messages absolutely fine. Noticed this after a few people at work told me that they had called me a couple of times but I dint have any alert on my screen. Again , its not that the phone dint show me that the call was coming, but it dint show me the missed call alert and the number , when it showed me the alert , it dint show me the number. I had the SAME problem in my N72 which I had got when the N72 was out (which was fixed by the updated firmware)....so certainly this would really be something wanting to be had. To fix this I had to reboot my phone and allow it to refresh its mem or whatever and then the alerts and all blocked sms's came in fine.

- Experienced keypad issues when entering WEP keys for wifi access.

[BREAK=Camera / Picture Samples]

Camera / Picture Samples

Phone Pictures - Random



Sample Pictures from the Phone



[BREAK=3rd party software]3rd party software

I've loaded Google Maps and let me tell you even though it gave me a pop up saying that its not compatible with the device. It installed and its running absolutely fine.

Also from Nokia - Hongkong website i've loaded :

-Touch Piano - App

-Touch Guitar - App

-Mail for Exchange - App

-Touch Popper - Game

-Touch Maneuver - Game

Thats it from me. Hope this is liked by everyone. Do leave back a comment.
 
buBleZ said:
hanzy I think i missed ur post somewhere.. What shd be done for that volume bug? I think i hav it..

btw I got one as well and it was ur review that gave me the confidence in buying and I am pretty happy with the phone. Nice review.

Thanks to you and also thanks to everyone who have appreciated this review of mine and given rewards as well :) :hap2:
bublez u got pm regarding the issue :)
 
hanzy said:
Thanks to you and also thanks to everyone who have appreciated this review of mine and given rewards as well :) :hap2:
bublez u got pm regarding the issue :)

@ bublez : ur pm inbox is FULL , please empty and pm me
 
shotgun said:
Hey nikeel,
speed dial does work man. have u assigned numbers properly ?

Ok. I have finally managed to resolve this issue of speed dialling.
The problem was that the number was saved as +91 98xxxxxxxx (Note the space in between). While this number can be dialled from the contacts list, it cannot be dialled via speed dialling due to the space in between. Apparently its some firmware issue as on other Nokia phones the space doesn't make a difference.

Matter resolved now :hap2:
 
Yahooooooo Updateeeee !!!......

My phone issue has been F I X E D !!! :D

I doubt Nokia India can have that turn-around-time :D.... not even 48 hrs , LOL


Now waiting to get it back in hands , sometime next week ....:D
 
sad news:

i gave my phone back to the nokia priority centre as there was a noticeable stuck pixel on the screen. they said the replacement would come in today, but im going to go tomorrow.

nokia is having quite a few troubles with build quality. i guess the good things in life have started losing their charm now. we used to swear by nokias build quality and its quite pathetic seeing so many phones going back to the showroom for RMA. :ashamed:

great luck hanzy. hope my new phone doesnt come with the particular problem you speak of. that will be pathetic!
 
hanzy said:
Yahooooooo Updateeeee !!!......

My phone issue has been F I X E D !!! :D

I doubt Nokia India can have that turn-around-time :D.... not even 48 hrs , LOL


Now waiting to get it back in hands , sometime next week ....:D

Nope not atleast if u buy from an NPD. As I informed you I had that volume bug.

1) visited the NPD today @ 5:15.
2) NPD checked the issue and sent the phone back to company @ 5:20.
3) got a new replacement at 6:30.
4) left the NPD at 6:40 after syncing all the stuff to my new phone..

thats 1.25 hours. Much better than days of replacement from India - UAE - India.

I just hope that the new piece doesnt develop the same issue. out of 80 pieces that the NPD delivered 3 including mine had this problem.
 
buBleZ said:
Nope not atleast if u buy from an NPD. As I informed you I had that volume bug.

1) visited the NPD today @ 5:15.
2) NPD checked the issue and sent the phone back to company @ 5:20.
3) got a new replacement at 6:30.
4) left the NPD at 6:40 after syncing all the stuff to my new phone..

thats 1.25 hours. Much better than days of replacement from India - UAE - India.

Thats cool !!!
 
buBleZ said:
^^ooohh.. nice find.. That shd have been hard to find

Ya. Discovered that another number which didn't have the space dialled correctly. Took some time to figure out... but glad I did. On a touchscreen phone speed dialling is very important to have :)
 
buBleZ said:
Nope not atleast if u buy from an NPD. As I informed you I had that volume bug.

1) visited the NPD today @ 5:15.
2) NPD checked the issue and sent the phone back to company @ 5:20.
3) got a new replacement at 6:30.
4) left the NPD at 6:40 after syncing all the stuff to my new phone..

thats 1.25 hours. Much better than days of replacement from India - UAE - India.

I just hope that the new piece doesn't develop the same issue. out of 80 pieces that the NPD delivered 3 including mine had this problem.

:hap2: awsome , fantastic that is.....good to know u got the replacement over the desk with the issue fixed !........hope ur new phone doesnt have / develop the problem ........and really good to know they are offering direct xchange and no repairs over it !
 
Nine pages of banter and you still ask. I feel its a win win situation for those who buy the phone. Here are a few lucid points:
1. Huge screen, high resolution, perfect for watching those small tv shows and movies while travelling
2. Great speakers: take the iphone, multiply its volume by fifty, and thats the volume of the 5800 $peakers. Absolutely brilliant.
3. Good touchscreen sensitivity: coupled with a lot of input options makes text input verry simple.
4. Sturdy construction
5. Lightweight
6. Audio quality is a decent 7/10.
7. Trusty, stable, quick, customizable and highly familiar (read: convenient) symbian os. The best part of the phone is the razor sharp response. It doesnt lag, except while changing the orientation of the screen. A result of nokias wonderful demand paging concept. The orientation issue will be resolved in a few firmware updates that will be released.

more coming up soon. Tired typing on the cell phone. Will go home and add
 
frankmehta said:
Nine pages of banter and you still ask. I feel its a win win situation for those who buy the phone. Here are a few lucid points:
1. Huge screen, high resolution, perfect for watching those small tv shows and movies while travelling
2. Great speakers: take the iphone, multiply its volume by fifty, and thats the volume of the 5800 $peakers. Absolutely brilliant.
3. Good touchscreen sensitivity: coupled with a lot of input options makes text input verry simple.
4. Sturdy construction
5. Lightweight
6. Audio quality is a decent 7/10.
7. Trusty, stable, quick, customizable and highly familiar (read: convenient) symbian os. The best part of the phone is the razor sharp response. It doesnt lag, except while changing the orientation of the screen. A result of nokias wonderful demand paging concept. The orientation issue will be resolved in a few firmware updates that will be released.

more coming up soon. Tired typing on the cell phone. Will go home and add

lol....the convincing sessions were successful huh :bleh: ......so now u actually know how responsive this thing is :)

for everyone who is yet to ask if the phone can be bought or not........answer is - Y E S
 
For those who compare:
its better than the omnia
its way better than the other touch screen phones in the market
the iphone is a worthy competitor but there a lot of things where the tube whoops the iphones backside again and again.

heres how:
1. Much better Screen resolution
2. Louder speaker
3. No itunes, just drag and drop
4. Lighter in weight
5. Doesnt get scratched like the iphone 3g
6. Expandable memory
7. Removable battery
8. Price
9. Reads office formats, unlike Iphone where you have to jailbreak it to even transfer files to it.
10. Fm radio
11. Handsfree comes with a remote, which is very convenient. Iphone comes with an excuse for a handsfree.
12. Slightly better camera
13. More service and sales support from numerous nokia centers.
14. Qwerty keyboard in landscape mode can be used everywhere. Iphone clamps down on its use, god knows why
15. Smses can be forwarded :p
16. I repeat, no itunes!
17. Java applications can be run effortlessly
18. Higher customizability. I can atleast keep the song i want as the ringtone, sms tone that i want, and can hear it when the phone rings, unlike the iphone.
19. Comes with 200+ songs, which are surprisingly good. Apple makes you pay for even looking at their iphone.
20. My wireless bluetooth headphones work with it. Whats the use of an 'ipod' in a phone, if theres no a2dp???? And the bluetooth is no good if theres no file transfer enabled.

i have owned the iphone 3g and the omnia and the n95 and the e71 in the last 3 months, if anyone wants to dispute/refute about the above points :p
 
Repworthy!!
Good review tehere mate.

Something an average user like me would look for.

Answer just a few questions and i m off to book mine!

How's experience with the nokia ms exchange app. Do the features work as expected? Can u search contacts in ur enterprise directory as efficiently as you wouold in your phone?

Can you add those contacts straigh to the phonebook once you have found?

Can the mails be backed up/restored?

I stuck winmo for past few years just for the exchange thing. Its so useful in a corporate environment. The denied me the pleasures of a decent multimedia phone.

I guess the tube would be a decent upgrade.
 
frankmehta said:
For those who compare:
its better than the omnia
its way better than the other touch screen phones in the market
the iphone is a worthy competitor but there a lot of things where the tube whoops the iphones backside again and again.

heres how:
1. Much better Screen resolution --> On a 15% smaller screen if I may add :p
2. Louder speaker
3. No itunes, just drag and drop --> Its just a matter of your own preference. I, for one, have no issues with itunes.
4. Lighter in weight
5. Doesnt get scratched like the iphone 3g --> Oh yeah ? Whats with 100s complaining about pathetic build quality ?
6. Expandable memory --> Which results in other issues (read the other thread where the person had some issues on the phone because of the contents in his memory card)
7. Removable battery
8. Price
9. Reads office formats, unlike Iphone where you have to jailbreak it to even transfer files to it. --> Wake up dude, Good Morning !
10. Fm radio
11. Handsfree comes with a remote, which is very convenient. Iphone comes with an excuse for a handsfree. --> My iPhone handsfree has a remote.What are you talking about ?
12. Slightly better camera --> Yea right..I have seen the samples :p
13. More service and sales support from numerous nokia centers.
14. Qwerty keyboard in landscape mode can be used everywhere. Iphone clamps down on its use, god knows why
15. Smses can be forwarded :p
16. I repeat, no itunes! --> Ofcourse, you wanted to list "20" points. ( You could have repeated others and reached 50 if you wanted :bleh: )
17. Java applications can be run effortlessly --> Thank god, my iPhone cannot do that.
18. Higher customizability. I can atleast keep the song i want as the ringtone, sms tone that i want, and can hear it when the phone rings, unlike the iphone. --> Good Morning again sir!
19. Comes with 200+ songs, which are surprisingly good. Apple makes you pay for even looking at their iphone.
20. My wireless bluetooth headphones work with it. Whats the use of an 'ipod' in a phone, if theres no a2dp???? And the bluetooth is no good if theres no file transfer enabled. --> Project BlueSnow FTW :p
Comments in bold !!
Point No. 9 clearly shows how much time you have spent with iPhone and how much you know about it! No offence!
 
Can we disconnect 5800 from PC without doing something like safely disconnect for pen drives?

Just making sure that no transfer is enough to disconnect the usb cable?
 
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