Graphic Cards Nvdia announces Ferni aka GT300 aka GF100

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And it's a hybrid... a monster reared to take on Intel's Larrabee and anything that AMD can cook up on gaming gfx side. Nvidia claims that it is radically different architecture that will please both Hamers and HPC crowd. So far we know about Fermi:

Fermi's architecture is a clear move towards greater programmability and GPU based computing. There is a laundry list of new features, all of which will enable Fermi, when it is released to make greater inroads into the relatively high margin HPC space. Some of the more notable changes include updating the programming and memory model, embracing semi-coherent caches and improved double precision performance and better IEEE compliance. It's clear that Nvidia is making a multi-generation investment to push GPU computing in the high-end, although we will have to wait until products arrive to determine the reception.

Since there are no details on products, many key performance aspects are unknown. Frequency is likely in the same range (+/-30%) as GT200, and the GDDR5 will probably run between 3.6-4.0GT/s, but power and cooling are unknown and could be anywhere from 150-300W. The bandwidth and capacity for a DDR3 based solution is also unknown. So from a performance stand point, it's very hard to make any meaningful comparison to AMD's GPU, which is actually shipping. The shipping dates for graphics and compute products based on Fermi are also unclear, but late Q4 seems to be the earliest possible with low volumes, while actual volume won't occur till 2010 - so evaluating performance will have to wait till then.

Perhaps the most significant demonstration of Nvidia's commitment to compute is the fact that a great deal of the new features are not particularly beneficial for graphics. Double precision is not terribly important, and while cleaning up the programming model is attractive, it's hardly required. The real question is whether Nvidia has strayed too far from the path of graphics, which again depends on observing and benchmarking real products throughout AMD's, Nvidia's and Intel's line up; but it seems like the risk is there, particularly with AMD's graphics focus.

These are all important questions to ponder in the coming weeks, and really feed into the ultimate technical question - the fate of CPU and GPU convergence. Will the GPU be sidelined for just graphics, or will it be like the floating point coprocessor, an essential element of any system? Will it get integrated on-die, and to what extent will the discrete market remain? These are all hard to predict, but it's clear that Nvidia is doubling down on the GPU as an integral element of the PC ecosystem for graphics and compute and time will tell the rest.

Real World Technologies - Inside Fermi: Nvidia's HPC Push

Today's launch is strange. I tried to convince NVIDIA to release more information about Fermi but was met with staunch resistance from the company. NVIDIA claims that by pre-announcing Fermi's performance levels it would seriously hurt its existing business. It's up to you whether or not you want to believe that.

By adding support for ECC, enabling C++ and easier Visual Studio integration, NVIDIA believes that Fermi will open its Tesla business up to a group of clients that would previously not so much as speak to NVIDIA. ECC is the killer feature there.

While the bulk of NVIDIA's revenue today comes from 3D graphics, NVIDIA believes that Tegra (mobile) and Tesla are the future growth segments for the company. This hints at a very troubling future for GPU makers - are we soon approaching the Atom-ization of graphics cards?

Will 2010 be the beginning of good enough performance in PC games? Display resolutions have pretty much stagnated, PC games are first developed on consoles which have inferior hardware and thus don't have as GPU requirements. The fact that NVIDIA is looking to Tegra and Tesla to grow the company is very telling. Then again, perhaps a brand new approach to graphics is what we'll need for the re-invigoration of PC game development. Larrabee...

The architecture looks good, Fermi just needs to be priced right. Oh and the chip needs to hurry up and come out.

AnandTech: NVIDIA's Fermi: Architected for Tesla, 3 Billion Transistors in 2010
 
Fermi card pictured

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and here is the full architecture from nvidia site itself
http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/fermi_white_papers/NVIDIAFermiArchitectureWhitepaper.pdf
 
iGo said:
Although it's quite early to speculate anything, but so far on paper it's looking really good for Green Camp. Hope the product come out as planned and it's affordable from launch day. :)

i'm not convinced to be perfectly honest. nvidia is trying to branch out by making the gt300 a pure computational monster. the tech specs of course look very impressive, but their core business is the geforce series.in all the data we've gotten so far, there is nothing mentioning how performance will be in comparison to the 5800 series.
 
For some reason it is already accepted that Nvidia will have the fastest single gpu card when the GT3xx releases.

Pricing will be on the higher side I imagine..... which might mean the 58xx will see a slight cut to put pressure on the green team which is good for us.
 
Zloyd said:
For some reason it is already accepted that Nvidia will have the fastest single gpu card when the GT3xx releases.

that's true. everyone is expecting that... even though nvidia hasn't provided any benchmarks. i guess they are extrapolating from the hardware specs of the card. it's also worth nothing that the 5870x2 might be out around the time or soon after the gt300 releases, so it's still possible that ati might hold the performance lead.
 
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