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I don't think any card will last for 3-4 years without changing the graphics settings in future games. Even the 4090. So for Ultra Max RT settings, definitely the 12GB VRAM will be an issue but for overall 1440p, I think it'll be fine.
For 1440p, 12 GB is plenty (for now). I play at 1440p and have yet to encounter VRAM limitations/stutters with my 3080 10 GB (although I'm on the edge, with some games sitting at 9.5 GB). Games like Indiana Jones are the exception, not the rule (presently, the future will be different, but not very soon). UE5 is an unoptimized mess, as it is.
 
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For 1440p, 4070 Super and 4070 Ti is enough.
That's like 10gb 3080 few years back. Even 4k ran fine at 10gb and now we need 16gb.
12gb is too low for a new gpu at that price range. Nvidia gives value only on cards that will be out of date within few years.

Whether 4k is worth it or not, I don't know. Never tried it. Always thought of 4K as a TV resolution and not a monitor. Everyone has different tastes though.
4k 32 is great for a monitor, big jump from 27 1440p for me.

I play at 1440p and have yet to encounter VRAM limitations/stutters with my 3080 10 GB (although I'm on the edge, with some games sitting at 9.5 GB)
Witcher 3 next gen crashes a lot with RT - esp Novigrad. Had to use a mod that reduced settings to reduce VRAM usage.
 
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Yeah I didn't know what resolution he was playing at so I just gave him both the options. For 1440p, 4070 Super and 4070 Ti is enough.
Whether 4k is worth it or not, I don't know. Never tried it. Always thought of 4K as a TV resolution and not a monitor. Everyone has different tastes though.

I agree but for those who can't spend 1 lakh on the 4080, the 4070 Super and the 4070 Ti / Super is a budget option for 4K.

I don't think any card will last for 3-4 years without changing the graphics settings in future games. Even the 4090. So for Ultra Max RT settings, definitely the 12GB VRAM will be an issue but for overall 1440p, I think it'll be fine.

I see. My plan is to build a new pc sometime in June, keeping a budget of around 1.6L. I was hoping to fit the 5070 Ti within that budget.
 
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I see. My plan is to build a new pc sometime in June, keeping a budget of around 1.6L. I was hoping to fit the 5070 Ti within that budget.
These new gen NVIDIA GPUs usually take a long time to sell at MSRP so I hope you get it by June. Good luck. But I suggest not to keep waiting for the GPU if you have the money and time to play right away. You never know when life changes and you won't get the time to game anymore. Just my two cents.
 
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These new gen NVIDIA GPUs usually take a long time to sell at MSRP so I hope you get it by June. Good luck. But I suggest not to keep waiting for the GPU if you have the money and time to play right away. You never know when life changes and you won't get the time to game anymore. Just my two cents.
Totally agree! Trying to save up a bit before i build it, hence the wait :sweatsmile:
 
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10GB 3080 used to cause alot of frame drops on my friends system in Resident Evil. Which automatically got fixed when he moved to 7900 Xt.. most likely because of the Higher Vram availability.

I think i remember The last of us consuming more than 10GB even at 1440p.
 
I think the 4070 Ti Super is the only viable nVIDIA option, besides AMD.
yeah. That one is fine ( still priced high for a 70ti).
But better value in Nvidia cards will always be with cards that have lower VRAM. I had same issue with 1050 2gb and repeated mistake with 3080. ( Great jump in perf from 1050 to 3080 though :))
Even 16gb for say 4080 is a bit on lower side since its a 4k card. 1L cards shouldn't have any chance of being compromised due to VRAM, its laughable.
4090 is great, but priced high and has that higher-chance-of-burn problem. So we do have good nvidia cards, but not good value ones and any thing below 70tisuper is compromised on vram ..

From 3080, 4070ti super doesn't seem much of an upgrade to bother with. I don't see any price/perf jump with good perf that might make it worth upgrading from 3080.
I could spend more, but just don't feel like it. Id rather play through my older games backlog. HDR >> RT. Even Arkham City looks beautiful with HDR.
 
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yeah. That one is fine ( still priced high for a 70ti).
But better value in Nvidia cards will always be with cards that have lower VRAM. I had same issue with 1050 3gb and repeated mistake with 3080. ( Great jump in perf from 1050 to 3080 though :))
Even 16gb for say 4080 is a bit on lower side since its a 4k card. 1L cards shouldn't have any chance of being compromised due to VRAM, its laughable.
4090 is great, but priced high and has that problem. So we do have good nvidia cards, but not good value ones and any thing below 70tisuper is compromised on vram ..

From 3080, 4070ti super doesn't seem much of an upgrade to bother with. I don't see any price/perf jump with good perf that might make it worth upgrading from 3080.
I could spend more, but just don't feel like it. Id rather play through my older games backlog. HDR >> RT. Even Arkham City looks beautiful with HDR.
Same boat as you with my 3080. I'll likely keep it for another generation unless I see a good deal on a 4080.
 
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Same boat as you with my 3080. I'll likely keep it for another generation unless I see a good deal on a 4080.
yeah my ideal for used - goo condition 2+ years warranty and/or warranty replaced. Dunno, but i still hesitate to buy used.
One side of brain wants good value, other side says i don't really need to go through the hassle.
 
yeah my ideal for used - goo condition 2+ years warranty and/or warranty replaced. Dunno, but i still hesitate to buy used.
One side of brain wants good value, other side says i don't really need to go through the hassle.
If it makes you feel any better, I bought my 3080 used 1.5 years ago w/warranty till May 2025. Zero issues (don't want to jinx it :clown:) . Just have to do due diligence during the buying process, I guess.
 
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I am eyeing RTX 5070Ti as a replacement for my RTX 3080 FE bought in 2020... I feel like RTX 5080 doesnt seem like a good value.
I was looking at the same. Prices will be absolute shit for several months. A used 4080 would likely be more worth it. Also, how TF did you manage to snag a 3080 FE in 2020. It was impossible to snag one during that period. Unless you paid a fortune.
 

Additional 6-7% performance gain by OC'ing on partner cards for the 5090, should be doable on the FE's aswell.. however it seems FE suffers from coil whine and fans would also have to be ramped up by a decent amount.
 

Additional 6-7% performance gain by OC'ing on partner cards for the 5090, should be doable on the FE's aswell.. however it seems FE suffers from coil whine and fans would also have to be ramped up by a decent amount.
There is no room left for that PCIE connector: o_O 6090 will surely going to need 2 PSU setup

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Ultra Max RT settings
Hm, but do you think the 12 gigs of VRAM might hold up for next 3-4 years at 1440p ? In games like Indiana Jones, it runs out of VRAM already when path tracing is turned on.
Ray tracing and especially path tracing are such new technologies and so taxing that using them is pretty much reserved for the highest end of cards even a 4080 struggles with path tracing without DLSS and frame generation even at 1440p and honestly speaking other than ray traced reflections, ray tracing doesn't really look that great and it tanks the frame rate even when looking at a 5090 for example in Indiana Jones without ray tracing at 4k supreme settings it gets an average of 126fps where as when you turn on full path tracing the performance drops to an average of 38fps which is nearly unplayable at that point, now if the fastest consumer GPU on the planet is struggling to use path tracing how do you think the last gen cards and the ones before them are doing. Path tracing and ray tracing will only make sense when you are able to run games with at native 4k with ray tracing at a high refresh rate of say at least 90fps(currently about 55-60) and for full path tracing at at least 60fps(currently 30-40) with the halo tier card of the generation. I don't see that happening for at least 2 more generations which equates to about 5-6 years at least at the current pace.

That being said do we even need RT to enjoy games, I mean sure it looks good in some cases and can make a game look more realistic and but do we really want every single game to look the like the same realistic life like simulator, I don't and in the race of chasing this realism what we have lost behind us is art style something which used to define how a game looked which has now been substituted for the same old copypasta of realism I mean look at the new trailers and showcases the upcoming AC shadows, it look eerily similar to the now 5 year old ghost of tsushima. I remember the time when AC games had a distinct art style which vanished after unity and syndicate, those games looked extremely beautiful for their time and didn't face nearly any criticism for their looks. Even the new highly praised marvels rivals is a complete copy of the overwatch style. There are some games which still come out and carry their own but that is decreasing day by day, it's not that the hardware is not capable of running games fast, look at rdr2 and how that looks runs and feels at 4k even on a 3080 or a 4070, look at God of war ragnarok, Forza Horizon, MGS V, Ghost recon, Hozion, Farcry, Metaphor refantazio and many more.

That brings me to another point, do we need to play all latest AAA games right now I mean there are so many great games which you have probably never even heard of or played, you can at least try them out while you have the chance before they vanish just like some other games have already started to. The entire yakuza series, Devil May cry, Final fantasy series, Older star wars games. Games don't need top of the line graphics to be fun to play. Recently I finish playing through Bully for like the 5th time, a game launched in 2006, and it gave me much more enjoyment than Indiana Jones ever could. There are so many people who have played RDR2 but not RDR1 or even tried or know of Red Dead Revolver. Starting searching and playing great games maybe you will stumble upon a gem that feels great to play and is genuinely interesting instead of jumping on the graphics hype train of every other GPU destroying new "quadruple A ultra pro max path tracing ultra AI neural" game that comes out, maybe save it for later.