News NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Is 2x Faster Than 4080 At $999, RTX 5070 Ti 2x Faster Than 4070 Ti At $769, RTX 5070 Faster Than 4090 For $549

ash_mohak said:
Although the older cards getting all these features is pretty neat, it's a band-aid over a gunshot wound tbh... the 50 series as a whole is still a MASSIVE disappointment.... These features are just like finding 20rs coin inside a pastry after biting into it and breaking your teeth on it... it's like putting lipstick on a pig.. like mopping the deck while the Titanic is sinking... it's like patching up a bombing victim with threads of hope.. trying to save pompei by putting a cork on the volcano... like tying your shoelaces when you've been pushed out a plane without a parachute..

okay.. i'm done but you all get the point...
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And they still limit the driver level frame smoothing to 5000 series cards
 
radiantoceans said:
if you're on RTX 3000 series (or AMD equivalent) or earlier then the RTX 5000 series may make some sense.
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Price / perf, there is very little improvement vs 3000 series to bother with upgrade for me. We can get more perf, but will need to pay almost proportionately with 3080 as base. 10-20% improvements are not sensible upgrade paths.

Nvidia is prioritizing AI because it pays more. Pay 1k / 2k $ with so little price/perf jumps makes no sense to me. On top of that, RMAs are hit or miss.

i dont like FOMO, fk that.
Considering we have an oversupply of games, just play less demanding ones. If AMD cannot compete even after this, then gpu market is broken. There is only so much extra points we can give to these software 'features'.
How much Cyberpunk will people play to pay so much premium for things that only matter for a handful of games ...

More people should shift to consoles if they can ( i cant :) ..)
 
ash_mohak said:
Although the older cards getting all these features is pretty neat, it's a band-aid over a gunshot wound tbh... the 50 series as a whole is still a MASSIVE disappointment.... These features are just like finding 20rs coin inside a pastry after biting into it and breaking your teeth on it... it's like putting lipstick on a pig.. like mopping the deck while the Titanic is sinking... it's like patching up a bombing victim with threads of hope.. trying to save pompei by putting a cork on the volcano... like tying your shoelaces when you've been pushed out a plane without a parachute..

okay.. i'm done but you all get the point...
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no no, lets continue.. (ai)

It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic while ignoring the iceberg ahead...
Like trying to fill a sieve with water, hoping it will hold...

Like painting over rust and calling it new, while the metal crumbles beneath...
Like whispering calming words to a storm as it tears through everything in its path...

It’s sewing a torn sail in the middle of a hurricane, believing you can still steer the ship...
Polishing a cracked mirror, expecting it to reflect perfection...

Planting flowers in a desert, thinking they’ll bloom without rain...
Trying to light a match in a tornado, convinced you can spark warmth from chaos...

It’s pouring sand into the ocean to build a dam...
Holding back the tide with your bare hands, pretending control is within reach...

Writing apologies in ink that fades before it dries...
Or chasing shadows, hoping they’ll lead you to solid ground.

i pass the torch.
 
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Tracer_Bullet said:
Nvidia is prioritizing AI because it pays more.
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Nvidia like any other business entity, and pretty much most people, will obviously prioritize whatever pays more.

There's already considerable discussion on how 8GB VRAM is insufficient for 1080p gaming in 2024 / 2025.
I see used 3060's, 3070's and 3070ti's on the used market every week.
When the RTX 3080 launched it was touted as a 4K card, now most people seem to consider it a 1440p card.
It is a fast card, but most versions have 10GB VRAM (about the same as an entry level Intel B570), how long before people start saying 10GB VRAM is insufficient ?
The RTX 5080 comes with 16GB GDDR7 in comparison.

The 5000 series does have better memory bandwidth via the GDDR7. Maybe driver upgrades in the future will unlock better performance.
Or maybe the 5000 series will end up like last gen's 4000 series and we'll get RTX 5070 super, RTX 5070 TI Super and RTX 5080 Super.
Not trying to force an upgrade on anyone, you do you.

k660 said:
electricity bill let me level up that and bring it down that salvage moment W
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Well 4000 series was pretty power efficient but hardly anyone picks a 4060 because its more power efficient, not exactly its selling point.
Power consumption for an 80 series card has been on an increasing trend since at least the GTX 1080, it may stay the same, but I doubt it will go downwards for the 6000 series.
 
radiantoceans said:
Nvidia like any other business entity, and pretty much most people, will obviously prioritize whatever pays more.

There's already considerable discussion on how 8GB VRAM is insufficient for 1080p gaming in 2024 / 2025.
I see used 3060's, 3070's and 3070ti's on the used market every week.
When the RTX 3080 launched it was touted as a 4K card, now most people seem to consider it a 1440p card.
It is a fast card, but most versions have 10GB VRAM (about the same as an entry level Intel B570), how long before people start saying 10GB VRAM is insufficient ?
The RTX 5080 comes with 16GB GDDR7 in comparison.

The 5000 series does have better memory bandwidth via the GDDR7. Maybe driver upgrades in the future will unlock better performance.
Or maybe the 5000 series will end up like last gen's 4000 series and we'll get RTX 5070 super, RTX 5070 TI Super and RTX 5080 Super.
Not trying to force an upgrade on anyone, you do you.



Well 4000 series was pretty power efficient but hardly anyone picks a 4060 because its more power efficient, not exactly its selling point.
Power consumption for an 80 series card has been on an increasing trend since at least the GTX 1080, it may stay the same, but I doubt it will go downwards for the 6000 series.
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Decadent_Spectre said:
Hypothetically, if these new cards cost 10% of what they cost would all of you complaining, stop complaining?
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me: yes.
 
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radiantoceans said:
Nvidia like any other business entity, and pretty much most people, will obviously prioritize whatever pays more.

There's already considerable discussion on how 8GB VRAM is insufficient for 1080p gaming in 2024 / 2025.
I see used 3060's, 3070's and 3070ti's on the used market every week.
When the RTX 3080 launched it was touted as a 4K card, now most people seem to consider it a 1440p card.
It is a fast card, but most versions have 10GB VRAM (about the same as an entry level Intel B570), how long before people start saying 10GB VRAM is insufficient ?
The RTX 5080 comes with 16GB GDDR7 in comparison.
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Yes, also like any normal consumers, once price becomes irrational, product becomes compromised, demand should also reduce.
Nvidia should be ceding market share in consumer gpu market because they are not interested, which ofc is by choice. But AMD has to step up.
Or overall demand should reduce and market gets smaller, more people move to consoles instead.

If even after that people only want to chase Nvidia gpus and be happy with small incremental changes, then market will price it accordingly ( against consumer obviously )

yes 3080 has not enough vram. I made that mistake, and 12gb@60k even 16gb at 1L is the same/similar mistake today.
When i bought, almost every 4k game ran fine (and i was buying for 1440p). Same for 16gb today. Tomorrow it will become tighter and tighter, esp once next gen consoles start coming up.
3080 also had very good bandwidth for its time, it wasn't enough. One can resort to wishful thinking to justify anything.

Anyway, i am happy with it. I don't go after the latest games and instead put money in proper 4k HDR screen which makes a world of difference on image quality for ALL games.
Even Arkham city looks smashing in HDR.

No way i am overpaying for gpus simply to upgrade vram at similar price/perf. I am not paying for software instead of hardware.
I can easily afford all of those, but not interested and will only look at it when either market improves or my gpu breaks down.
Used gpus can be at good prices ofc, so that could be a choice for some if enough warranty is available.
radiantoceans said:
Or maybe the 5000 series will end up like last gen's 4000 series and we'll get RTX 5070 super, RTX 5070 TI Super and RTX 5080 Super.
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yes, 24gb one for 80 and 18gb for 70 series once we get 3gb vram chips is the rumour.
 
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Tracer_Bullet said:
Yes, also like any normal consumers, once price becomes irrational, product becomes compromised, demand should also reduce.
Nvidia should be ceding market share in consumer gpu market because they are not interested, which ofc is by choice. But AMD has to step up.
Or overall demand should reduce and market gets smaller, more people move to consoles instead.

If even after that people only want to chase Nvidia gpus and be happy with small incremental changes, then market will price it accordingly ( against consumer obviously )

yes 3080 has not enough vram. I made that mistake, and 12gb@60k even 16gb at 1L is the same/similar mistake today.
When i bought, almost every 4k game ran fine (and i was buying for 1440p). Same for 16gb today. Tomorrow it will become tighter and tighter, esp once next gen consoles start coming up.
3080 also had very good bandwidth for its time, it wasn't enough. One can resort to wishful thinking to justify anything.

Anyway, i am happy with it. I don't go after the latest games and instead put money in proper 4k HDR screen which makes a world of difference on image quality for ALL games.
Even Arkham city looks smashing in HDR.

No way i am overpaying for gpus simply to upgrade vram at similar price/perf. I am not paying for software instead of hardware.
I can easily afford all of those, but not interested and will only look at it when either market improves or my gpu breaks down.
Used gpus can be at good prices ofc, so that could be a choice for some if enough warranty is available.

yes, 24gb one for 80 and 18gb for 70 series once we get 3gb vram chips is the rumour.
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Well driver upgrades have significantly improved graphic card performance since GPU launch. Most prominent example being Intel Arc GPU's.
In India itself how many consumers prefer AMD cards even after all that goes on? Most people still buy Nvidia because its better for productivity.
And as long as people buy, Nvidia will take it as a stamp of approval.
Many eyes are now on the AMD 9000 series GPU launch, lets hope for the best, performance and pricing wise.
Nvidia global GPU market share is still pretty overwhelming. But maybe this is the year things will change.
 
Noob question i mean no crypto mining nowadays why GPU prices are soared? And what will be the entry level card in 5000. suppose 5050 5060?
 
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