Graphic Cards NVIDIA Kepler(GK1XX) Discussion Thread

@ALPHA17 What is the likelihood of prices falling (stoopid question) by Diwali ? Or should one consider the 670 by Diwali ? ....... see my specs in signature

Why are not you buying an HD7750 and finishing the deal. I mean is their really a need for the GTX660 OR above GPU's?

About lowered prices, it is a maybe, may not-be situation. If $ goes up the Sales just might slash it to current price levels and if the Rupee holds out then we might see a grand, tops two knocked out for a Diwali Sale (for really high-end stuff) for small fry the price drop will be a modest ~500/- quid off.
 
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Horribly over-priced the HD7870 for ~1000/- quid extra completely destroys it, plus if need be can over-clock to the levels of an HD7950 / GTX660Ti.
where are you quoting the prices from? Asus HD7870 is listed at 25k in deltapage website. so probably would be 0.5k~1k cheaper elsewhere. Asus ATi Radeon HD7870 - 2GB DDR5 : HD7870-DC2-2GD5 - www.deltapage.com

also find me a single game where HD7870 thrashes GTX660 for the price difference? between the two asus directcu models.
ASUS GeForce GTX 660 Direct Cu II 2 GB Review | techPowerUp
ASUS Radeon HD 7870 DirectCU II 2 GB Review | techPowerUp

only time HD7870 shines is when AA is cranked up greater than 4xMSAA at FHD (cos of the obviously crippled memory bus of the GTX660). but I dont think that territory is that of GTX660.

ALPHA17 What is the likelihood of prices falling (stoopid question) by Diwali ? Or should one consider the 670 by Diwali ? ....... see my specs in signature
prices of GTX660 and GTX660Ti might fall (here), at the max 1k, once the older stocks of 560Tis gets cleared substantially and also when newer models like MSI GTX660 HAWK comes out. MSI GTX660Ti PE is already 20.9k in SMC. no clue about the GTX670 as it is the best kepler to buy as of now.


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Why are not you buying an HD7750 and finishing the deal. I mean is their really a need for the GTX660 OR above GPU's?

About lowered prices, it is a maybe, may not-be situation. If $ goes up the Sales just might slash it to current price levels and if the Rupee holds out then we might see a grand, tops two knocked out for a Diwali Sale (for really high-end stuff) for small fry the price drop will be a modest ~500/- quid off.

My need would be for an Nvidia card (CUDA + physx) - as I infrequently use the following (After Effects; Photoshop; PremierePro -all CS6; Maya & 3DMax; Lightroom; Avid MC or DS). Besides have been an Nvidia user since their inception ...... I've never had any hands-on experience with ATI/AMD cards. Lastly - Nvidia + Giga motherboards are better suited for a hackintosh (which I plan to config later).

Delaying my decision for two reasons - 1] to fully test the performance of my new RIG as-is with HD4000 + 3770K + 16GB RAM + one SSD; 2] so by Diwali I would get a better idea as to what GPU would be necessary.

I have seen prices fluctuate a great bit between the pre-order bookings for 660 ..... so just keeping hopes alive :)

Lastly - just like the premium components that I chose for my RIG - which I hope lasts me for the next 5 years or more. Similarly, I would hope that the GPU too serves me well.....and that's why the Kepler choice. I would not be exchanging/selling off anything in between.
 
where are you quoting the prices from? Asus HD7870 is listed at 25k in deltapage website. so probably would be 0.5k~1k cheaper elsewhere. Asus ATi Radeon HD7870 - 2GB DDR5 : HD7870-DC2-2GD5 - www.deltapage.com

also find me a single game where HD7870 thrashes GTX660 for the price difference? between the two asus directcu models.
ASUS GeForce GTX 660 Direct Cu II 2 GB Review | techPowerUp
ASUS Radeon HD 7870 DirectCU II 2 GB Review | techPowerUp

only time HD7870 shines is when AA is cranked up greater than 4xMSAA at FHD (cos of the obviously crippled memory bus of the GTX660). but I dont think that territory is that of GTX660.


prices of GTX660 and GTX660Ti might fall (here), at the max 1k, once the older stocks of 560Tis gets cleared substantially and also when newer models like MSI GTX660 HAWK comes out. MSI GTX660Ti PE is already 20.9k in SMC. no clue about the GTX670 as it is the best kepler to buy as of now.

Here you go for the HD7870 GB price quote, Sire --> Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7870 HDMI OC Edition 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com.

The Direct CU II TOP is a factory over-clocked card and comes ~10% faster than the HD7870, AMD HD7870 once run balls-to-the-wall can reach the HD7950 so here is a bench-run between the two cards @stock -- http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=660.

nVidia gets the lead in BF3 (a nVidia game), Portal 2 and STARCRAFT II. For AMD it is Crysis Warhead, DiRT 3 and Civilization V. Compute performance is hopelessly in AMD's favour so I am not going to add that. Cheerio!

My need would be for an Nvidia card (CUDA + physx) - as I infrequently use the following (After Effects; Photoshop; PremierePro -all CS6; Maya & 3DMax; Lightroom; Avid MC or DS). Besides have been an Nvidia user since their inception ...... I've never had any hands-on experience with ATI/AMD cards. Lastly - Nvidia + Giga motherboards are better suited for a hackintosh (which I plan to config later).

Delaying my decision for two reasons - 1] to fully test the performance of my new RIG as-is with HD4000 + 3770K + 16GB RAM + one SSD; 2] so by Diwali I would get a better idea as to what GPU would be necessary.

Tagging @Chaos he can spell out the deal for you. I do not think that MAYA will see a great boost in performance until you start using the Quadro Professional series cards.

And about Hackintosh I have no idea. Cheerio!
 
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Here you go for the HD7870 GB price quote, Sire --> Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7870 HDMI OC Edition 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com.

The Direct CU II TOP is a factory over-clocked card and comes ~10% faster than the HD7870, AMD HD7870 once run balls-to-the-wall can reach the HD7950 so here is a bench-run between the two cards @stock -- AnandTech - Bench - GPU12.

nVidia gets the lead in BF3 (a nVidia game), Portal 2 and STARCRAFT II. For AMD it is Crysis Warhead, DiRT 3 and Civilization V. Compute performance is hopelessly in AMD's favour so I am not going to add that. Cheerio!
sapphire pricing is good, reflects the US pricing well. but it's Asus DCUII version still sells for that premium. definitely pricing fail on the part of Asus and other manufacturers for both HD7870 and GTX660 then (Edit: I guess it's the AMD price drop not reflecting soon here). so as I said before there is good chance of 660s price falling to reflect the US pricing levels (atleast somewhat) once last gen cards clear out.. the 560Tis are plentily available everywhere, till then 660 and Ti are untouchables. (Edit2: except for people like me who only play battlefield 3 :P)

btw both the TPU links I quoted review the TOP versions of GTX660 and HD7870 only. and my point was nowhere I see GTX660 getting 'thrashed' in those benchmarks.

Sapphire 7870 ghz edition is available @ 17.5k here
well, if flipkart sells for that price, definitely it should be lower in the market :lol:




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btw both the TPU links I quoted review the TOP versions of GTX660 and HD7870 only. and my point was nowhere I see GTX660 getting 'thrashed' in those benchmarks.

The ASUS TOP -- Top over-clocked performance cards are factory over-clocked and demand a price premium vis-á-vis standard GTX660 editions in the market.

The HD7870 Sapphire card is a stock PCB with a custom cooler slapped onto it by Sapphire, to level this discrepancy I gave you the link for the benchmark run of the stock cards from Anadtech (repeating it) --> AnandTech - Bench - GPU12.

It is not-out an out a nVidia victory but in the long run with greater texture details the AMD card with its better memory bandwidth and core-clocking capability will shine. Pricing is another bone of contention, AMD HD78** series cards have slid to more affordable pastures but nVidia is demanding too much for the GTX660 family for the similar performance and poor over-clocking capability.
 
Performance , yeah good in most games but I have another concern . Pricing leaves a lot to be desired .

OT :
One thing I fail to understand is why only Sapphire is reducing the prices and not other amd / ati related companies ? .
Secondly the thing to ponder on is our speculation was right , things can be priced much cheaper in India even after paying all those taxes . Sapphire proves it .
So the other manufacturers are really taking us for a ride .

This thing hurts me not only for myself but for the community as a whole . We are paying much higher than what we should . Our US and Chinese counterparts pay much lesser and enjoy better support . Why this discrimination against us ? .
 
Performance , yeah good in most games but I have another concern . Pricing leaves a lot to be desired .

OT :
One thing I fail to understand is why only Sapphire is reducing the prices and not other amd / ati related companies ? .
Secondly the thing to ponder on is our speculation was right , things can be priced much cheaper in India even after paying all those taxes . Sapphire proves it .
So the other manufacturers are really taking us for a ride .

This thing hurts me not only for myself but for the community as a whole . We are paying much higher than what we should . Our US and Chinese counterparts pay much lesser and enjoy better support . Why this discrimination against us ? .

I think pricing also depends on the distributors.. Aditya Infotech is the distributor for Sapphire and I really has a good experience with them. So while buying any imported items, please check who is the distributor in your locality
 
I think pricing also depends on the distributors.. Aditya Infotech is the distributor for Sapphire and I really has a good experience with them. So while buying any imported items, please check who is the distributor in your locality

Let the pricing depend on whatever , it is the firm's fault for letting the distributors dominate them .
The firm should stop distributors from forming " Cartels " and take pricing matter into their hands .
 
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