Graphic Cards NVIDIA to Counter Radeon HD 6970 ''Cayman'' with GeForce GTX 580

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BULLSHIT...

This is the height of epic shit seriously. How would nVidia even start resolving the issues of a HUGE die, not to mention latency issues of such a huge ring width connected to 512 cores??? nVidia, shame on you if you planted this rumour to down the HD6800 launch.
 
Yea it prolly is Nvidia spreading stuff to dampen upcoming beast chip release from AMD (6970) , no idea or clue as to when this card is coming , and when it does it probably wont even be those specs, but its normal now , Nvidia made noise when 5xxx was coming out , AMD did the same when 460 pwnd them , lets hope they have something better than a 480 or something VFM like 460 but more powerful (475 ?) before the end of the year.
 
I don't understand why people make an issue out of Nvidia's 460 trouncing the Ati 5770 and the 5830. The Ati cards were released almost a year back. An article I read in Tomshardware said that the each generation is approximately 6 months when it comes to GPUs. In that sense the Nvidia 460 is 2 generations behind Ati's offerings. I am going to sit and enjoy Nvidia failing. I was an Nvidiot from 1999--2010. 2010 onwards I am going to be an Atidiot.
 
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Serious with the advent of such breakneck replacement of card families, sometimes I wish I was ignorant about hardware market atleast you won't get a shock every time a new release is announced
 
Honestly if you are sitting on a 460 or better /5850 or better cards this release is pretty crappy. There is no need,sense,gain in upgrading to these 2 cards. The next 2 cards though could be a totally different story :D
 
Zloyd said:
Honestly if you are sitting on a 460 or better /5850 or better cards this release is pretty crappy. There is no need,sense,gain in upgrading to these 2 cards. The next 2 cards though could be a totally different story :D
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That is purely subjective.

The people say such nice things about the 460 is the price. Nothing more.

The exact reason people praised HD5770 for long period of time. But none of these two are capable of driving high resolution 24 or 24+inch monsters at 1080P or 1200P resolution with even current games available out there with 4xaa 16xAF and maxed out details.

There are only 5 cards out there (3 from ATI and 2 from Nvidia ) that can take this claim. And if rumors are true, we will have 1 or 2 more such cards at really good prices from ATI. ATI's release makes perfect sense. Nvidia's answer is unknown. And I am afraid it will stay that way for a while. I dont see this part becoming reality. 512Bit GDDR5 ? LOL that will mean Nvidia, which has already shot itself in one leg with Fermi taking a gun and shooting itself in other leg and to top it off taking a machete and chopping of the right arm. The GF100 is already a monster chip and to get 512Cuda cores and 512bit GDDR5 bus (which will be overkill in itself ) will be suicidal.
 
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That is purely subjective.

The people say such nice things about the 460 is the price. Nothing more.

The exact reason people praised HD5770 for long period of time. But none of these two are capable of driving high resolution 24 or 24+inch monsters at 1080P or 1200P resolution with even current games available out there with 4xaa 16xAF and maxed out details.

There are only 5 cards out there (3 from ATI and 2 from Nvidia ) that can take this claim. And if rumors are true, we will have 1 or 2 more such cards at really good prices from ATI. ATI's release makes perfect sense. Nvidia's answer is unknown. And I am afraid it will stay that way for a while. I dont see this part becoming reality. 512Bit GDDR5 ? LOL that will mean Nvidia, which has already shot itself in one leg with Fermi taking a gun and shooting itself in other leg and to top it off taking a machete and chopping of the right arm. The GF100 is already a monster chip and to get 512Cuda cores and 512bit GDDR5 bus (which will be overkill in itself ) will be suicidal.
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^^ hehe :rofl:
 
Well 460 1gb does ok at 1920 1080 , the gains you get from spending more than twice that amount or much much more anyways for a 5870 or 480 are not much. Plus 2x 460 for lesser than 1 480 and with really really good performance thats the sweetest thing about that card. 1 card is ok ... good even as long as you dont demand lots of AA as well at full HD 2 is gravy.

But coming back to topic I dont believe a word of this shit , I dont suppose nvidia worked out some magical way to make cooler chips or something that they would be able to pull this off.
 
ALPHA17 said:
Serious with the advent of such breakneck replacement of card families, sometimes I wish I was ignorant about hardware market atleast you won't get a shock every time a new release is announced
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Well you should have personal upgrade rules like Upgrade GPU once every 2 years and CPU+Mobo once every 3/4 years. You are obviously not supposed to upgrade every time something better comes out. Moreover, I have seen that game system requirements have plateaued now a days since they port console games to PC. So next time everyone would really need an upgrade is when next XBox and PS comes out.
 
What Nvidia really needs is a Dual GF104 (Full) based card to even try and compete with the newer cards,having said that,we dont have any idea how the cayman will perform,so.... :)
 
^^ HD6900 series supposed to be biggest chip by AMD ever. You can say a GTX480 from AMD with performance that we earlier expected from that card(or nVidia hyped about)...
 
Amd just a hype. . 6series as we all think should outperform everyother card there but leaked benchmark tests shows that its slower than 5series cards. . Check bittech a uk based website. . Its just a packaging of 5series. . Hope the news are wrong n 6 series be a worthy card to buy this fall. .
 
if the news has any truth then i think nvidia will offer much better card then the amd ..

as in past nvidia has always given tough competition to the amd cards like 5770 and 5850 by launching gtx 460 and gtx 480 cards which offers much much better performance then the amd cards...

but main problem with nvidia will be to deliver this card on time ....that is as soon as possible to maintain an edge over amd...
 
Nah you are misunderstand that 6870 is not 5870 replacement. So if you can get that bit you will be ok with 6870 performance , its a 250$ card you cant expect a 400$ cards performance but it will be 85%+ of a 5870 so really thats pretty damn good. Ofcourse since this is a year since 5870 has come out it is expected also.

6970 is 5870 replacement and you can judge AMD's progress with that , these cards the 6850 and 6870 are the bread and butter the money earners for AMD they aim to sell it in bulk and hurt nvidia sales at 460 price points.

6970 will take on the 480 price range and offer the kind of performance improvement you are looking for , so it will also be a 500$~ card.

This should make it more clear.

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AMD's monopoly over DX11 cards might be making a lot of you AMD fanboys happy but I really don't give a cr&p...all I care about is development in the gaming industry and the prices.

We want our games to look better and the prices of hardware to fall.If the market was more competitive NV and AMD would work on making cheaper,more powerful and people would upgrade more....this in turn would motivate developers to use the new hardware.Overall this would be healthier for the gaming industry which IMO is slightly stagnating(at least in terms of graphics).So lets all just hope NV gets their stuff together and delivers this time.
 
^ really? ATi and NV are stalling the development of game in terms of graphic quality?

Why don't you research over why developers are inclined towards developing for consoles and then port the same stuff over PC, instead of re-building the game for PC scalable to utilize vast configuration options? The high-end segment of graphic card available today is capable of delivering good graphic quality, but it doesn't make sense from economy perspective for game developers to create different codebase for different platforms. Consoles bring standards and makes developer's life easier and overall development process economically more viable.

Seriously... if you wanna blame anyone for stagnating gaming development, blame it on game developers/studios and consoles.
 
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