Graphic Cards Official 9600GT Review thread !

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The chip is pretty good, and is consistently faster then the 8800GT 256mb. But ten again with 3870 in the same price range after the cuts would tilt the balance towards AMD. But I am sure the prices will stabilise at below 170$.

The performance charts are still based upon games which are dx9.0c based , and extended to dx10 (the other way round is not possible if i'm not mistaken) ...
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Crysis is a DX 10 game using extremely long shaders etc. And its not impossible to scale eitherways X360 is a good example the R600 derivative onboard has unified shaders, the API though would be different, that doesnt stop the X360 ports or vice versa ...
 


EVGA has four 9600GT cards



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Ranging from 650MHz to 740MHz
EVGA has launched four 9600GT versions ranging from 650MHz all the way to 740MHz for the GPU.

Besides the highest factory overclock for the GPU which stops at 740MHz for the GPU, the SSC edition card also features the highest shader clock speed of 1835MHz. The memory tops at 1950MHz for the SSC edition. Other cards include representatives from EVGA's KO, Superclocked and, of course, a plain reference clocked edition.

The KO edition 9600GT card works at 700MHz for the core, 1900MHz for memory and 1773MHz for the shaders. The Superclocked edition has a bit more modest clocks, core works at 675MHz, memory at reference 1800MHz and Shaders ended up at 1674MHz.

All EVGA 9600GT cards use the same single slot reference cooling system paired up with an orange EVGA sticker, and all of them come packed with 512MB of GDDR3 memory with 256-bit memory interface. They all support PCI-Express 2.0, DirectX 10 and Shader Model 4.0.
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Geforce 9600GT price goes down

The lowest price at €138,37
The price of Nvidia's Geforce 9600GT keeps falling and the lowest price that we could find is currently €138,37. Of course we are talking about the reference clocked card coming from XFX.

XFX's 9600GT isn't yet available, but Germany based e-tailer Hardwareversand.de claims that it will be available for sending as of today. This price includes VAT but excludes shipping costs so be sure to add that when you pick your etailer/retailer.

The second lowest priced card comes from Sparkle. It's a reference clocked card which is currently available for €145,66 at Norskit.com, which is yet another e-tailer so once again, keep your mind on the shipping costs when you pick your order.

Looks like ATI's price cut on HD 3870 and HD 3850 is kicking in and we might see further price drops of Nvidia's 9600GT cards.
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Crysis is a DX 10 game using extremely long shaders etc. And its not impossible to scale eitherways X360 is a good example the R600 derivative onboard has unified shaders, the API though would be different, that doesnt stop the X360 ports or vice versa ...
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Eeer .. Crysis is coming to PS3 isn't it ?? And correct me if i'm wrong .. PS3 uses RSX which i think is just like a 7800GTX with a speed increase and a die-shrink , i.e no dx10 ?? eeh ?? Crysis doesn't feature anything that is "exclusive" to dx10 only , or rather , that atleast requires a dx10 card to run .. ..
 
Crysis doesn't feature anything that is "exclusive" to dx10 only , or rather , that atleast requires a dx10 card to run .. ..
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Again I have to comment...have u played Crysis with a DX10 card on both Windows XP & Vista. You have to be blind if u could not notice the better visuals under DX 10.

The port to PS3 will use DX9.0c shaders...Crysis uses the most long shaders till date. Its hard to digest but G94 will be equal to 8800GT with newer driver revisions.Also 9800GTX is coming in March end...so 8800GT will die soon & render its value to half of what u have bought it for in 3 months :P Hard to digest but u have to :rofl:
 
Again I have to comment...have u played Crysis with a DX10 card on both Windows XP & Vista. You have to be blind if u could not notice the better visuals under DX 10.
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Well , actually i have .. and i don't know , but if u could see any diff. between "Very High" on Vista , and tweaked "Very High" on XP , then u must have really good eyes to spot the subtle diff. .. coz most of them who played it couldn't do so , and even people on Vista eventually went to play under dx9.0c with very high tweak coz the performance loss with just dx10 was not worth it .. ..

Follow -> TweakGuides.com - Crysis Tweak Guide

The port to PS3 will use DX9.0c shaders...Crysis uses the most long shaders till date. Its hard to digest but G94 will be equal to 8800GT with newer driver revisions.Also 9800GTX is coming in March end...so 8800GT will die soon & render its value to half of what u have bought it for in 3 months Hard to digest but u have to
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Isn't it obvious ?? But i think the 9800GTX will more compete against the 8800GTS rather than the 8800GT in terms of pricing .. expecting over 20k's atleast ... Plus does it really matter ???

And plz. go and google and find me some diff. between G94 and G92 that'll effect the performance so much that a 9600GT will actually overtake the 8800GT even with inferior hardware specs .. And even if it was so , then why would anyone plan to release a G92 based 9800GT ??? .. Plus , performance varies over generations , not revisions .. 8800GT is not a G8x , but a G9x ..
 
yep...if the 9800s are priced competitively, 8 series will be killed...
8600 will most certainly be replaced by 9600 in due course...
all that we can do is wait and watch
an for those who are plannin to go shoppin an have their minds torn apart into eternal dilemas by reviews and suggestions, often from ppl who are more ignorant than themselves....rest...listen to your heart, and go buy a card...whatever u buy, may not turn out to be the best, but it will certainly be good...concentrate on ur gaming...and wish yourself better luck for next time...

probably the only ppl who can comment abt the future-proofness, with some semblance of accuracy, of a card are the nvidia designers themselves, the ones who know the scene in game development too...and even they can make mistakes....
 
8800GT is not a G8x , but a G9x ..
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but it feels bad for ppl who bought their 8800GT for 300$ arnd or arnd 14k-15k in India to get pwned so fast & see as good a card for 200$(9.5~10k) within just 1-2 mnths. It is like getting pwned as did the early iphone users :)

Also I am nt even considering the new Purevideo features (which might get ported to G92 as well but thats wuestionable) and lower power consumption.

If all reviews are studied....a common pattern is 9600GT performing very close or slightly better than 8800GT in mainly the latest games.

Why did nvidia had to make a new chip G94 ...when they could just use same G92 with disabling some SPs. making a new chip is a lot of investment which runs into 100s of millions of $...do u think they will be fool enough to nt put any features on it. Also there is nt even much die shrink on it so they r nt even saving much money on the new G94....so why will they just make a new chip ?? The AA/AF handling in G92 was really screwed up big time....so gear up for it :P

Also if 9800GTX comes at 8800GTS levels...everyone will be very happy to have a 300-349$ card. If a 64SP card can do this....what do u think a 128SP will do :P
 
Also I am nt even considering the new Purevideo features (which might get ported to G92 as well but thats wuestionable) and lower power consumption.
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G92 aka the 8800GT/GTS has an embedded VP2 Engine .. and its the G94 which follows the G92 and not the other way round .. and the latest 174.16 drivers gives the same options and performance across both the cores regarding video playback .. ..

Why did nvidia had to make a new chip G94 ...when they could just use same G92 with disabling some SPs. making a new chip is a lot of investment which runs into 100s of millions of $...do u think they will be fool enough to nt put any features on it. Also there is nt even much die shrink on it so they r nt even saving much money on the new G94....so why will they just make a new chip ?? The AA/AF handling in G92 was really screwed up big time....so gear up for it
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G94 is a new chip compared to a G92 ?? Or is it merely a revision ??? never knew they would invest "100s of millions of $" and name a chip thats already has a nomenclature similar to a "previous" gen chip :O ... .. then a G71 is a new core compared to G70 ?? :O .. lol .. there were 7900GTX's based on both .. so the G71 7900GTX was better than the G70 7900GTX :O ... nice !!!

BTW .. like i asked again .. this AA/AF handling in G92 screwed up thingy ... why do u say so ?? I mean where did u read it ?? any thing to "back it up" ?? U can't just point fingers at things and say its faulty without actually proving it u know .. Plus from all the reviews i've read yet , i really don't see a massive performance gain of the G94 9600GT over the G92 8800GT when using AA + AF ...

but it feels bad for ppl who bought their 8800GT for 300$ arnd or arnd 14k-15k in India to get pwned so fast & see as good a card for 200$(9.5~10k) within just 1-2 mnths.
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:O ...

Dude ... seriously .. u need to seriously brush up u're info on these things. . i mean even if i accept that i've arrogant and a noob and trying to defend a G92 based 8800GT .. u're "claims" are still pretty vague .. or rather in more simple words : PROOF ??
 
Its nt abt defending :P

All I want to say is that 9600GT is a better buy than the 8800GT. Of course price need to settle down 9k mark. It will be very diff to push the 8800GT to people at 13k arnd :)
 
Nope... 8800GT is once in a generation card. It is still best value for money card and 9600GT might be young and fast but 8800 can still pawn it - in FPS and as well as in raw power.

But sure the 9600GT release has spiced up gfx market a lot.

In last three months or so situation has changed quite fast and 8800GTX and Ultra are not worth anymore. They are exorbitantly priced and are not on top anymore. The mightiest gfx card is now 3870X2 and it is amazingly priced (Phoenix is selling it for around 23K). Anyone with a 30 or 24 incher with enough dough should consider getting 3870X2 before hitting upon anything else (hmmm... is there something wrong with last sentence)

At lower res, 8800GTS or Ultra might catch 3870 X2, at higher res it just pulls ahead.

Next in line is 8800GTS (512 RAM) and this card is a performer @ 18-20K that will serve well for a 24" monitor .

8800GT at 13K is still a steal and will provide enough power to play games at full eye candy on 22" monitor and at times 24" (but not for long).

Then comes 3970 and 9600GT. Fanboyism and prices rule here. IMO if 3870, if it's within Rs 500 to Rs 1000 of 9600GT (we can only drool here in India), is still a better option than 9600GT.

For now prices of 9600GT are around $180 while lowest 3870 is selling for $185 on newegg.

This is what we call fight for survival. For ATI, heat is on :P
3850 should not sell for more than 8K (at newegg lowest one with 256 MB memory was selling for $145. This is less than 6K) :O

HTPC enthusiasts (the audio-video people who frown at gamers as if we are some lowly species shedding virtual blood, resembling a beast that is uncultured and lack taste in art) can buy any of ATI's 34XX, 36XX series cards. Of course, if they can find them in Indian markets.

Or even better, they can buy our 8600GT/S and 2600XT/Pro etc second hand :ohyeah: . These cards will cost a lot less and will allow them to have their fragging moments if they sometime wish so.

PS: here is Nvidia's 9XXX roadmap: GeForce 9 series roadmap updated, GeForce 9500 added | NordicHardware
 
All I want to say is that 9600GT is a better buy than the 8800GT. Of course price need to settle down 9k mark. It will be very diff to push the 8800GT to people at 13k arnd
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Eeer .. isn't it what i said earlier ?? Considering the 9600GT price to be around 10k's , wouldn't u have enough reason to put in just another 3k's and get a card that is better in terms of pure hardware specs , and raw performance ..

But if the 9600GT is anything around 8k's , then its a steal ..upto 1440*900 / 1280*1024 , its a killer card for its price .. the 8800GT is obviously better at 1680*1050 ... and its seriously weird for nvidia to name a new core on a prev. gen. series ... the G94 is just a revised G92 .. every darn spec is the same , the G94 only going down in terms of no. of SP's and TU's .. even the G92 has three variants :P ..
 
from wat i saw at the toms hardware review...the 96gt is abt 12-15% under performing than 8800gt...the hardest hit was the 256mb 8800gt...the 512 still manages to take lead.
wat i think is the 86 is more like a replacement for the disastrous 8600GTS and to offset the 3850...once prices come down dat is...
 
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