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The 4 Best OLED Monitors - Black Friday 2024​


Source: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/oled

I wish India also gets some good deals if not BF then some year-end and/or diwali next year.
All OLED monitors or TVs use PWM for brightness control. If you are sensitive to low PWM frequency, bad luck, better opt for FALD LCD based panels instead.

So were the slow motion (high fps) video clips that I posted not showing the flicker properly on my oled monitor?
 
Now the goto guy for burn-in and long-term use. Monitors unboxed released their burn-in update:
This testing is much needed to remind every budget conscious users from never plunging into the hype of OLED monitors. Insane price for something that wont last its warranty period is ridiculous and you got ZERO resale value with that damaged display.
 
Too late for me - I've already taken the plunge - time will tell how my display fares in the near/far term - especially since I don't do gaming or much media consumption on my PC - it's mostly programming/browsing - which is exactly what is not advised usage - so lets see what happens and whether the 3-year burn-in warranty is actually honoured by MSI if it is needed :oops:
 
3-year burn-in warranty is actually honoured by MSI if it is needed :oops:
Considering the flaws/price 3 years is unacceptable, but they better be honoring without a question. Do an RMA at the 3 year mark to get a new panel and sell it here. :D Some people here argue its worth the price for their media consumption, maybe it's but PC monitors are suppose to last long. I don't like this trend at all.
 
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All OLED monitors or TVs use PWM for brightness control. If you are sensitive to low PWM frequency, bad luck, better opt for FALD LCD based panels instead.
LCD panels use it too, it's just the flickering rate is too high to put as much strain as sharp low frequency OLED displays do.

Those who are not sensitive might not feel the strain but our eyes are constantly bearing the strain of flicker. It's gonna affect all of us the same in coming decades.
No idea about how you can capture it in camera unless PWM freq is like 240Hz or lower.
You can set the shutter speed to 1/4000-8000 on your phone's camera to check for bandings. Try checking oled screens of your phone, tv, monitor.
 
Looks good. If you do same in LG G4 a top of the line TV heavily marketed for gaming, you'll see terrible flickers. It's causing eye strain since I got it
Had mentioned this earlier on this thread as well.
Adding further, My work latop was recently upgraded to a XPS 9340 OLED. Great resolution and fantastic screen for media and casual use ... but induces a headache within 30 mins as soon as I get into something that needs cocentration eg looking at an excel sheet or going through a long word doc.
I have seen this happen on too many monitors now to write it off as a one off fluke
I am trying to get a downgrade to a 2k LCD SKU but not in inventory currently. For now, forced to use it with an external monitor
 
Had mentioned this earlier on this thread as well.
Adding further, My work latop was recently upgraded to a XPS 9340 OLED. Great resolution and fantastic screen for media and casual use ... but induces a headache within 30 mins as soon as I get into something that needs cocentration eg looking at an excel sheet or going through a long word doc.
I have seen this happen on too many monitors now to write it off as a one off fluke
I am trying to get a downgrade to a 2k LCD SKU but not in inventory currently. For now, forced to use it with an external monitor
May not be your issue - But i find the contrast to be extreme with black/dark background while working. Any white thing on black background is hard to work with.
Cant work that way - so I reduce brightness to 0 ( Has some minimum brightness ), contrast to 50 and reduce blue subpixel gain to 30 instead of 100 (also green but blue is relevant here). This works for me in a dark room.

I have heard of some people getting headache with Oleds. Thankfully i never did. Also noticed some flickering in test scenes initially but now i never see that too.
 
May not be your issue - But i find the contrast to be extreme with black/dark background while working. Any white thing on black background is hard to work with.
Cant work that way - so I reduce brightness to 0 ( Has some minimum brightness ), contrast to 50 and reduce blue subpixel gain to 30 instead of 100 (also green but blue is relevant here). This works for me in a dark room.

I have heard of some people getting headache with Oleds. Thankfully i never did. Also noticed some flickering in test scenes initially but now i never see that too.
Will try.. Although I do not like dark mode on a laptop at all.. Actually i dont like dark mode even on a phone but do keep it on for battery life.. but never on a laptop

I faced this issue first when i tried a PC hooked to an OLED Tv - and attributed it to the display being a TV rather than a monitor
But Then had same issue on a portable external OLED monitor.. This external now primarily gets used for gaming when I am travelling
And now this .. Not sure if I am more sensitive to flicker but i think I will keep OLED usage limited to media only going forward
 
Had mentioned this earlier on this thread as well.
Adding further, My work latop was recently upgraded to a XPS 9340 OLED. Great resolution and fantastic screen for media and casual use ... but induces a headache within 30 mins as soon as I get into something that needs cocentration eg looking at an excel sheet or going through a long word doc.
I have seen this happen on too many monitors now to write it off as a one off fluke
I am trying to get a downgrade to a 2k LCD SKU but not in inventory currently. For now, forced to use it with an external monitor
:) I've specifically order customized XPS 9320 with 4k IPS panel all the way from US because that particular model was selling with OLED display in India. I knew it was going to be terrible for eyes as it uses Samsung oled display with 240 hz PWM frequency (lowest & worst among all). I did my research beforehand.
Anyway if you wanna grab mine, feel free to connect. I have moved on to something else and will be parting ways with it.
I have heard of some people getting headache with Oleds. Thankfully i never did. Also noticed some flickering in test scenes initially but now i never see that too.
As I mentioned earlier, sensitivity of people varies, however, the flickering affects everyone's eyes equally bad. The results we will see, as tech is moving towards OLED which has cheaper manufacturing than IPS panels, are more people wearing glasses sooner than later in coming decades.
 
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Will try.. Although I do not like dark mode on a laptop at all.. Actually i dont like dark mode even on a phone but do keep it on for battery life.. but never on a laptop
I did not use 'white' mode much, but it looked fine and i don't think i had this glare issue that i face with dark mode with perfect black backgrounds.
But I did not use that way as it uses more energy/stresses panel more.
Also now i like dark mode ( with perfect black backgrounds almost everywhere) + lower contrast/ultra low brightness/lower blue light now and dark room, its easier on eyes for work. And then max everything for games.

I faced this issue first when i tried a PC hooked to an OLED Tv - and attributed it to the display being a TV rather than a monitor
But Then had same issue on a portable external OLED monitor.. This external now primarily gets used for gaming when I am travelling
And now this .. Not sure if I am more sensitive to flicker but i think I will keep OLED usage limited to media only going forward
yeah seems like you are sensitive to it.
Anyway oleds for games/media and IPS for work is best option. I just don't have deskspace for it.

As I mentioned earlier, sensitivity of people varies, however, the flickering affects everyone's eyes equally bad. The results we will see, as tech is moving towards OLED which has cheaper manufacturing than IPS panels, are more people wearing glasses sooner than later in coming decades.
If anything, my eyes are more relaxed i think now because i can turn down brightness to lowest with oleds when working. Love it.
Also never faced any issue with mobile oleds.

I dont really know anything about this. This is what rtings says for my monitor
"The backlight isn't technically flicker-free because it has a slight dip in brightness that corresponds to the 240Hz refresh rate. However, it isn't considered pulse-width modulation like on LED-backlit monitors because it isn't a full-screen on-and-off flicker, and you won't notice it."

"Like most OLED screens there is a minor fluctuation of the backlight, and in this case it operates in sync with the refresh rate, whatever you have that set at. Above it’s operating at 240Hz so there’s a small fluctuation every ~4.17ms. You can see on the graph above that the 0V would be an “off” state, so the amplitude of this fluctuation is minor, and does not produce any visible flickering or anything like that in practice. It’s not the same as PWM on an LCD monitor where the backlight is rapidly switched fully off and on when trying to dim the brightness level. Obviously being an OLED panel there is no backlight here anyway, and this minor fluctuation didn’t cause us any problems in real use and would be considered flicker free."
 
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