nRiTeCh
Oracle
Anyone has epx. with Orico ssds and what about their service centers/rmaing process?
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Kaleen Bhaiya
Innovator
I guess if you want a ssd with reliable data safety, it's best to stick to regular brands. Else, just for the sake of it, you can get one.
Like, I recently wanted a SSD just for normal storage, 500gb. Went with Crucial BX 500 as it was dirt cheap in BBD even when options like SP, EVM and other's existed. Just for an extra piece of mind if something goes bad in future.
nRiTeCh
Oracle
Dont need for me at all as I always stay away from these cheapo brands but the inquiry was for a friend who also whatsapped me this deal asking if he should go for it!
Their Indian site lists just one shop in Dadar East, Mumbai which I suppose exists just to import stuff. I would be surprised if they ever replace a product.
Also, used to import Orico shop from AliExpress in the past and like other mass Chinese brands, they skip QC to cut costs, making it a lottery in terms of quality. Their enclosures at least always underperformed due to poor design and firmware.
Also, used to import Orico shop from AliExpress in the past and like other mass Chinese brands, they skip QC to cut costs, making it a lottery in terms of quality. Their enclosures at least always underperformed due to poor design and firmware.
Kaleen Bhaiya
Innovator
Then it's all about the budget. If he can loosen his purse, you already know what's best. But if not or want to taste the waters before jumping in, then sure.
Just ensure that he does not have any crucial data on any of these drives.
rsaeon
Herald
I like Orico as a brand, they're one of the premium Chinese brands that got a boost through Aliexpress. Other such brands are Aukey and Ugreen.
Once upon a time, Deepcool and Anker were like them, before they became globally reputable.
When I mean premium, I also mean quality focused, something we don't see with the Indian rebranders like Consistent (lol), Dolgix, etc.
EVM is a level up from what I've seen, they've also been around the longest — I have seen DDR2 sticks with their branding.
It's easy to dismiss these smaller brands but they exist because the market has space for them. Some of them grow, like Deepcool and Zebronics, others stay how they are, like Orico and Mercury, and others become disliked over time, like Consistent (lol) and Geonix (double lol).
It's a little weird but we now have adults that grew up with fond memories of Mercury motherboards in their childhood systems, like how we have memories of "Intel Original" motherboards.
I sometimes work with people whose idea of a nostalgic video game system are those 1000-in-1 boxes when usually you'd think of the NES or Sega Genesis.
The world is getting weirder as we age.
Once upon a time, Deepcool and Anker were like them, before they became globally reputable.
When I mean premium, I also mean quality focused, something we don't see with the Indian rebranders like Consistent (lol), Dolgix, etc.
EVM is a level up from what I've seen, they've also been around the longest — I have seen DDR2 sticks with their branding.
It's easy to dismiss these smaller brands but they exist because the market has space for them. Some of them grow, like Deepcool and Zebronics, others stay how they are, like Orico and Mercury, and others become disliked over time, like Consistent (lol) and Geonix (double lol).
It's a little weird but we now have adults that grew up with fond memories of Mercury motherboards in their childhood systems, like how we have memories of "Intel Original" motherboards.
I sometimes work with people whose idea of a nostalgic video game system are those 1000-in-1 boxes when usually you'd think of the NES or Sega Genesis.
The world is getting weirder as we age.
DigitalDude
Herald
On such videogames, the lesser the number the better like 50-in-1 or 300-in-1. The 10000-in-1s were garbage
You're asking as if the warranty on the box would be different than amazon or the official site? They can write 2000 years on the box, the true test is when an RMA is actually needed, whether they honour it or not.
Let's not dilute the reliability and brand power of a company like Deepcool to the likes of unreliable and cheap-ass brands such as Zebronics, EVM, or even Orico.
At a time when the CM Hyper 212 was the only affordable and reliable aftermarket air cooler was in the Indian market, Deepcool broke that monopoly with its competent Gammaxx line of air coolers, particularly the Gammaxx 200, that only performed similar to the Cooler Master, but also costed less and was similarly reliable. That was their moto from their start - reliability but not at the cost of price. And that was their rise to fame in the India market as well, alongside selling affordable fans, competing again with CM and Corsair.
Even 15 years back, Deepcool had a proper and well-reputed distributor and RMA provider in the name of Tirupati Enterprises. Since, Tirupati was based in Kolkata, you could only find Deepcool products directly through them or Kolkata-based shops like MD or Vedant, with them also selling sometimes on Flipkart (Amazon India was non-existent).
On the contrary, Orico doesn't even have warranty claim process in India in 2024, and you are branding it as 'premium'. Good Lord. The choice of words is very important here.
Even if we are talking about EVM or Zebronics - the latter doesn't even get a pass in my book in terms of value or reliability - and the former is only there to exist. There are a dozen of EVM service centers in Kolkata, and only one of them services SSDs. Yeah, I have done the background check long back. Forget about claiming that '5-year' warranty or the price they advertise to entice customers.
TL;DR Comparing Deepcool to brands like Zebronics/EVM/Orico is similar to comparing Corsair with Frontech. Both have their own market segments that they cater to and neither should be mistakenly used with each other for comparisons. It just paints a wrong picture in the minds of the consumers.
I remember buying one cartridge that had 10000 in 1 on label, and when I launched it, it showed 9999 games. Felt scammed.On such videogames, the lesser the number the better like 50-in-1 or 300-in-1. The 10000-in-1s were garbage
rsaeon
Herald
Point taken. Irrefutable that Deepcool is a behemoth today. I have probably a half a dozen Gamma 400s in use right now, I bought them precisely because I didn't want the Hyper 212. My PSU of choice is also Deepcool, I have three and it's only three because all the others were bought before the V3 series.
But perhaps you're discounting Orico a little more than what's fair. I appreciate their engineering, which is something Zebronics doesn't do.
They're 15 years old and they design their own products in house, they're not rebadgers nor do they subcontract or reuse oem designs. They claim to be the first to market with a tool-less external drive enclosure, which is probably true.
For some reason, they decided to stay small and focus around USB related products and haven't stepped out of that. It would be truly impressive if this SSD is their own manufacturing but it probably isn't. I'd love to get one and take it apart just for the sake of curiosity. I'll report back here in a few days.
Never thought we'd see a Deepcool fanboy square-off with a Orico fanboy, haha.
Naveen_Reloaded
Galvanizer
these would be boon for pc builders , who build pc for clients.. they can save a lot i guess.. is it reliable ?
joy.das.jd
Herald
Deepcool isn't having a great time since they were banned in US which has also affected their operations in countries that follow the US sanctions list. Wouldn't call it a behemoth.
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Orico is fine for a cheap mass market brand but they never really made high quality products. Always received an odd one that didn't work and their designs are sometime impractical leading to excessive heating. They also used a lot of cheaper controllers in their mainstream products. Okay to buy for the price but wouldn't really tag it as a premium Chinese brand even if they managed to differentiate themselves from the normal alphabet soup companies.
rsaeon
Herald
I know I'm easily impressionable but I can't be the only one who forms opinions of a company through their factory tours and engineer interviews on YouTube?
My definition of a premium brand is one that does their own R&D vs rebadging/reusing existing OEM designs.
Thanks, I missed that. This explains why Amazon India removed all Deepcool products even through they're still being sold in India through other retailers.
Aukey is another brand I mentioned that was banned by Amazon for a different reason — review scams. But they (used to) make good stuff before that happened.
My definition of a premium brand is one that does their own R&D vs rebadging/reusing existing OEM designs.
Thanks, I missed that. This explains why Amazon India removed all Deepcool products even through they're still being sold in India through other retailers.
Aukey is another brand I mentioned that was banned by Amazon for a different reason — review scams. But they (used to) make good stuff before that happened.
The problem with using R&D as a measure is that every Chinese manufacturing company will have one in terms of protyping for manufacturing, not necessarily to move forward technologically.
Most of the unknown firms that make new products are actually OEM themselves and white label stuff, like for most of the budget Indian brands. Few move out of that and sell directly like Orico.
This also reminds me of Baseus that has been similarly irritating for me for a decade. Always low quality stuff like 1 out of 3 chargers not working out of the box or a braided charging cable with 50% efficiency and yet they are relatively known in terms of the product range and volume.
I would put Anker and Ugreen in the premium Chinese brand list as you call it, but then their price premium is a bit too much. For example, I had last picked up a McDodo GaN charger that cost 1/3rd of Anker, weighs the same and has been in use with my office laptop for a year.
In sticking with the essence of Chinese products, I would rather pick up a product from a non-premium brand offering the same quality as an established one.
Received the SSD today, packaging looks good (= not generic) at least. Endurance ratings are on the lower side, but similar to QLC SSDs available on the market (crucial p3, intel 660p), and while they don't specify the flash type, going by numbers we can assume this to be QLC. Will test performance tomorrow, sustained sequential write numbers (below 100MB/s for QLC) is a decent indicator for flash type.
rsaeon
Herald
My 2.5" drive won't be delivered until the weekend but I got the mSATA one today. It was shrink-wrapped over the sticker. Serial number on the box matches the drive. Included was two M2.5 screws and a tiny screwdriver. PCB looks sleek with matte black solder mask and gold plating, but that's like everything else coming out of China now. Can't see anything that would indicate Orico is the manufacturer, the stickers came off easily.
Importer details for the search engine: Tiger Pug Commerce Pvt. Ltd, A-302, Ditpi Calssic, 32-34 Suren Road, Andheri-East, Mumbai-400093. Maharashtra, India. For customer complaint and feedback, please write to the importer address or call our customer care manager on telephone: 022-26810881 or Email us at consumerservices@tigerpug.com
I assume they'll also handle the RMA process.
Test results are decent for the price (acasis usb enclosure):
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