Packers and Movers - need help

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I have had a good experience with Agarwal, however they might be on the costlier side if you don't negotiate well. Have also heard a great deal about Leo, but have not used them myself
 
agantuk said:
I have had a good experience with Agarwal, however they might be on the costlier side if you don't negotiate well. Have also heard a great deal about Leo, but have not used them myself

Thanks agantuk..anyone else knowing approx cost involved in moving things within same city?
 
I used them recently. And asked them this question. Apparently, both are the same Agarwal. But the brothers have now split. 2 of them run the Delhi one and 1 of them runs the Hyderabad one. It might be the other way round. However, point is that both of them are in the business and are genuine :) For the record, I used the Delhi based one and didn't have any issues. Was super impressed.
 
agantuk said:
I used them recently. And asked them this question. Apparently, both are the same Agarwal. But the brothers have now split. 2 of them run the Delhi one and 1 of them runs the Hyderabad one. It might be the other way round. However, point is that both of them are in the business and are genuine :) For the record, I used the Delhi based one and didn't have any issues. Was super impressed.

Thanks for the information. Which one is the Delhi based one?
 
Need some info guys.. The field officer from Agarwal will be visiting my home today to have a look at my stuff and give me an estimate. What are the points that I'll have to get clarified with him? Any other things to remember?
 
1. Ask them if there is going to be a dedicated truck or is transportation going to be shared. Though its not something you can control as It depends on the amount of stuff you have, but it will drastically effect the cost and the quality of service. If you have very little stuff, transport will be shared and chances are your stuff won't move out from the source warehouse till they find enough customers like you to fill a truck.

2. Time lines. Ask them for the tentative delivery dates. If they give a certain date, Assume that you will get the stuff at best 7~10 days after that date.

3. Once they give a quote, make sure to bargain a bit. They usually assume that your company is going bear the expenses and give the max possible quote. If you give them the feeling that you won't avail their services because of the cost, they will shave up to 2~3k on the estimate.

If you go ahead with them, when they come for packing

1. Be prepared with the stuff to be packed and be ready to supervise. While they do all the packing, they don't really care for the stuff and where they are putting them. They just pick up anything and everything in your house that they lie their eyes on and throw it into their boxes. So chances are very likely that your delicate electronic/electrical goods are going to share the space with a ketchup bottle or worse an oil packet (saying this out of experience). So you should keep an eye on what they are putting in and where.

2. It is a good idea to do some good packing of your own for all the delicate stuff. Don't rely on the boxes they bring in. Ask them to put in extra thermocoal sheets where you deem necessary.
 
1. just take your own notes down as to show them you are seeing and noting what is packed where. as a result you ensure they dont open up the boxes again.

2. make sure they mark 'This side up' or the arrow mark in boxes containing important items etc. you dont want an overturned fridge being loaded and travelling all the way.

3. take insurance on your stuff.
 
@Lord Nemesis pretty much covered everything.

The guys at Agarwals - and other movers and packers - are experts at gauging the costs. They just look at your stuff and tell you how much it would cost. A few questions that you might want to ask are (in addition to above):

1) How they plan to pack certain items that you think are tricky / delicate. We had a fancy TV stand and center table and got them to explain to us how they would do it. Reason it helps is, they work based on certain assumptions, like parts are detachable etc. However, some of our items were apparently not. So they had to change the way they initially planned to pack.

2) Will they be disconnecting any of the electricals or you would need to get an electrician to do that. This is generally not covered by Agarwals, but is upto the personnel who come on that day to do your work. It is always good to ask in advance, and have an electrician at hand.

3) Will they be putting things back at the destination. The answer is yes, but confirm. They do assemble your stuff, and do a pretty good work at it.

4) Insurance. What is covered, and for how much.

For packing, absolutely remember to do this:

1) Be mentally prepared. Yes.

2) These guys work very fast. Very as in V E R Y. They bring with them loads of cartons, bubble wrap and tape and just wrap any damn thing that comes into their line of vision. They disassemble things fast, pack very quick, and shift them all at the end. Due to this, be sure to have done your own packing like clothes etc and all other stuff you would keep / carry with you BEFORE they arrive. You would not get time to do that once they start their work. Not that they don't co-operate, it usually is a lot of confusion in that case.

3) Special care items, supervise them while packing. Guide them on how you want them packed if you are not happy with what they are doing. Remember though that they are the experts, and they are trained. To give an example, our entire kitchen, glass and ceramics included, were packed by them, one piece at a time and put into the carton. I got my stuff intact. Not a single broken piece. Absolutely amazed. This is the norm, though there are cases when some things break. So get your super important stuff packed with better cushion.

4) The unsaid rule - be ready for some kharcha paani. These packing boys are grossly underpaid, deliberately or otherwise, and they expect you to give them a healthy tip as they know exactly how much you are paying the company for the transfer (one of them carries the bill). The tip is region based I have realised. So while 200 per head was accepted with grudge at one location, the same amount was considered big at the other place.
 
@agantuk: Thanks a lot..! Any ideas about how they pack a bike..? My Caliber needs to be shifted too.

And, do they need any paper work for any stuff?
 
For vehicles, they don't need any paper work apart from a copy of your RC, road tax, and insurance. They need the keys for the car - not the bike. In my case (Unicorn), they removed the mirrors, wrapped each of them and finally tied them to the seat. The seat was then wrapped, followed by covering the tank, the indicators, and the headlight. All wrapping was first with bubble wrap and then their soft cardboard. I didn't have any other accessories on the bike like tank cover or side box, so I am not sure what they do to those. Your bike is treated as part of your home luggage, and not a separate item as in the case of a car.
 
Thanks again.. Hope the field officer comes tomorrow at least. I don't think he'll come anytime after now.
 
Update:

The field officer came for survey yesterday morning.

The things that I will be shifting (these are the ones he made note of to arrive at a quote) are: 29" TV; TV cabinet; 210 ltr fridge; Gas stove; Microwave; Wooden book shelf; Almirah; Water filter; Bike; 3 plastic chairs; 3 boxes of utensils; 2 or 3 suitcases; and additional 2 boxes of misc stuff. Shifting from Indore to Pondicherrry.

His quote was Rs.20000 + 2000 tax + 3% of declared value as insurance.

As expected, it would be a partial load; he said it would be delivered in 10 to 15 days time. Flatly refused any reduction in estimate. Quotation includes all packing and unpacking charges.

Any pointers? Do you think it is too much? Honestly, I was expecting more than this, given the distance to be covered. But it is a fact that there is very little stuff to shift - no furniture of any sort. I've told him that I'll let him know of my decision in 3 to 4 days.
 
Sounds slightly high. Try bargaining. You will be in a better position if you present him quotes from other companies. Don't expect it to drop too much though, but no harm in trying.
 
Yeah.. Will try and ask Leo packers to send their agent for an estimate..! BTW, the two Agarwal packers, do they work in sync, or are they entirely separate companies. If totally separate, I'll ask the other Agarwal also to give me a quote.
 
They don't work together. Atleast that's what I was told by those guys. They share the same name, but operate separate
 
Update: The 2nd Agarwal (.in) guy came yesterday and gave an estimate. It was almost similar to that given by the previous guy; just slightly less. However, somehow this guy failed to inspire confidence in me. I kept wondering if I should entrust this guy with the job; something that did not happen with the .com guy.

Contacted Leo packers also, but since they don't have a branch office in Indore, they said it would not be possible to do the moving. That leaves me with no other options. It's either Agarwal P&M .com or .in. I'll most likely go with .com.
 
^ Haha. Like the way it has boiled down to the domain name :D From what you say, and also what I experienced, it would mean the .com are the original guys, and the .in is the rebel
 
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