Pls Help build new system

impulse1992

impulse1992

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hello guys :)

I wanna buy a new cpu(no monitor and stuff now)



I hav not decided much

my budget is

24000

Current config

465mhz CPU

256mb Ram

40gb+4gb+4gb HD

15" CRT

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i will be using it for gaming,movies,browsing,downloading,etc

games i'd like to play

should run atleast

COD4 MW2

Other fps,rts,strategy

So i will start (I'll list some stuff Pls advice which is best)

PROCESSOR:-

1>INTEL e7500 Core2Duo >)Inclined on these but can't make up my mind

2>INTEL Core i3 530 :hap2: >)

3>AMD x4 quad core

4>AMD x3

MOBO:-

1>Intel g45 p55 g43?

(Gigabyte,Asus,Intel,?)

Don't know Much

ATX or Micro ATX?

Ram:-

2gb for now will increase later

800mhz or 1333mhz?

crosair:hap2:

kingston

I've heard transcend is not good in some thread:mad:

Storage HDD:-

WD 640 GB Caviar Green Hard drive(wats the cache 32 or 64):hap2:

Wd cavier black

Seagate barracuda (only 3yrs warranty:mad:)

PSU:-

Crosair vx 450 vx 400

Coolmaster 500w

Gigabyte 460w

Pc Case:-

Coolmaster

NZXT

suggest a decent one

GPU

Will Purchase later

A good one Probably 5k to 7k

Extra Fans?

normal how many

Should i buy cpu fan or it's included with proccy

Should i buy the gel? arctic silver something

Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.

NO dislike but dunno about AMD

Overclock

Maybe after 1 or 2 yrs

Would like to run it for 4 or 5 yrs

Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?

1. Windows XP

2. Windows 7

ALSO suggest which brands are good

provide good after sales service or warranties

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From my above pls advice which is the best choice

and also tell if i forgot something

PLS also Mention the Prices And Warranties

Should i Assemble it on my own (I hav pretty much knowledge)

Q: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)

Also pls tell me where to buy i stay in bombay

lamington road (which shop){relaible} any bargaining any reference for fair quotes

Anything else which is important

THANKS everyone in advance:clap: :hap2:

guys if u could also tell me how to attach heat sink&fan on the Processor

How to Apply TIM

Line Method

Dot Method Etc

Pls help THNX in advance
 
All the prices quoted are from theitwares.com and Nehru Place, Delhi... Shouldn't be much of a price difference..

PROCESSOR:-
1>INTEL e7500 Core2Duo : 5,200

MOBO:-
1>Intel G41 Chipset Gigabyte : 2,800
ATX or Micro ATX?

Ram :-

Corsair CGM2X2G800 2GB DDR2 800Mhz 240-Pin Gaming Desktop Ram : 2,450
Corsair CGM2X2G800 2GB DDR2 800Mhz 240-Pin Gaming Desktop Ram : 2,950

Storage HDD:-

WD 640 GB Caviar Green 16 MB cache : 2,800

Seagate barracuda 750 GB : 2,800
PSU:-
Corsair VX 450 : 3,800

Pc Case:-

Coolmaster Elite 310 : 1,550
suggest a decent one

GPU

ATI Radeon 5750 1 GB DDR5 = 7,500 to 8,000

Will Purchase later
A good one Probably 5k to 7k

Extra Fans?
normal how many
Since, you won't be OC'ing right away.. stick to the stock fan...

Cooler Master hyper 212 plus = 2,000

Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.
NO dislike but dunno about AMD
Overclock
Maybe after 1 or 2 yrs

Would like to run it for 4 or 5 yrs

Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
1. Windows XP
2. Windows 7
 
PLease follow the format posted by Renegade

http://www.techenclave.com/pc-buying-advice/template-what-should-i-buy-use-143714.html

Properly follow the format properly.

Your post is a complete mess . Its so complicating to read the post. What you want and dont want is complicating

AthlonII X4 620 - 5.4k

Biostar TA 785G3 - 3.6k

Transcend 2gb DDR3 1333 - 2.7k

WD Blue 500GB - 2.3k

CM Elite 310 - 1.5k

Gigabyte superb 460w - 2.2k

Benq G2200HD - 8k

Total - 25.2k
 
ok sorry guys didn't read tat b4 posting checked it later

So now i hav narrowed my choice to these

PROCESSORs

AMD Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz Quad-Core Processor

AMD Phenomâ„¢ X4 2.3 GHz Quad-Core 9650

Intel core i3 530 2.93GHz dual core

Which one is better?

(I read somewhere tat AMD is not good for gaming is it true?)

MOBO

Pls suggest me a Good ATX ASUS(Preferred) or Gigabyte MOBO

Which will last longer

(I don't want micro ATX)

want DDR3 Compatible Mobo

RAM

2gb DDR3 crossair 1333MHz or 800MHz

wats the cost?

HDD

WD caviar Blue, Green Or Black 640GB 32 or 64MB cache

Suggest which is better ?

i saw tat green & blue warranty is only 3yrs pls confirm

CABBY

CM Elite 310 or NZXT Gamma

PSU

Crossair vx450w

or Coolermaster eXtreme Power Plus 650W

(pls note i'll be adding a Good gpu later)
 
impulse1992 said:
ok sorry guys didn't read tat b4 posting checked it later

So now i hav narrowed my choice to these

PROCESSORs

AMD Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz Quad-Core Processor

AMD Phenomâ„¢ X4 2.3 GHz Quad-Core 9650

Intel core i3 530 2.93GHz dual core

Which one is better?

(I read somewhere tat AMD is not good for gaming is it true?)

MOBO

Pls suggest me a Good ATX ASUS(Preferred) or Gigabyte MOBO

Which will last longer

(I don't want micro ATX)

want DDR3 Compatible Mobo

RAM

2gb DDR3 crossair 1333MHz or 800MHz

wats the cost?

HDD

WD caviar Blue, Green Or Black 640GB 32 or 64MB cache

Suggest which is better ?

i saw tat green & blue warranty is only 3yrs pls confirm

CABBY

CM Elite 310 or NZXT Gamma

PSU

Crossair vx450w

or Coolermaster eXtreme Power Plus 650W

(pls note i'll be adding a Good gpu later)
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Why don't you follow the format properly ? We want to know the purpose of the rig , the gaming resoultion played by you etc

Just follow the format. Things are in the same way as before , very complicating thread , hard for anyone to make out what you want and for what purpose you want it ?

Components Model Description Price (INR)

CPU Athlon II x4 630 5050

Mobo Gigabyte MA 785GMT UD2H 5300

RAM 2GB 1333MHz Kingston DDRIII RAM 2700

HDD WD Blue 2300

Cabinet CM Elite 310 / NZXT Gamma 1500 / 2000

PSU/SMPS Corsair VX 450 4100

Total 20950 / 21450

I recommended WD Blue in comparison to Seagate as WD has 5 years warranty while Seagate reduced it to 3 years warranty
 
Questions

1. Q: What is your budget?

1. 24K

2. Q: What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)

Current config

465mhz CPU

256mb Ram

40gb+4gb+4gb HD

15" CRT

3. Q: Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)

1. Monitor

2. 40 gb HDD ide

4. Q: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.

1. CPU - AMD Athlon II X4 630, AMD Phenomâ„¢ X4 9650, Intel core i3 530

2. Motherboard -ATX ASUS or Gigabyte

3. GPU - Not right now

4. RAM - 2gb Crossair 1333MHz

5. HDD - WD caviar Blue, Green Or Black 640GB 32 or 64MB cache

6. CASE - CM Elite 310 or NZXT Gamma

7. PSU - Crossair vx450w OR Coolermaster eXtreme Power Plus 650W

8. Cooling - IF Needed pls suggest

5. Q: Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component

1. Yes, will upgrade the following within 6 months

2. GPU - Good gpu worth 6k (ati 5 series,nvidia 9series)

4. RAM - 2GB

5. Extra Fans

6. Monitor 19"

6. Q: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)

1. Mumbai

7. Q: Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market

1. No

8. Q: What is your intended use for this PC/hardware

1. Gaming

2. Browsing

3. Desktop Processing

5. Download rig

6. Watching HD movies

9. Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.

1. NO dislike but dunno about AMD

10. Q: If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?

1. Strategy - Civilization 4

2. Racing - Grid at medium to high settings

3. FPS - COD MW2

4. RTS - WOW

11. Q: What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage

1. Gaming - medium

2. Desktop - 1024x768 or higher

12. Q: Are you looking to overclock?

1. Yes After 1 or 2 yrs

13. Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?

1. Windows 7 64 bit

2. Linux - ubuntu

3. Win XP

Pls Help
 
Ok Now i hav problems in

Mobo-i want a ATX Asus Or Gigabyte mobo AM3 which supports DDR3, Ide & IGP

read somewhere tat biostar is not tat good

HDD - wats the diff between Caviar blue & Caviar Black

Psu - Crossair vx450w

or Coolermaster eXtreme Power Plus 650W

(ie CM 650 Had high Watts So should i go with it or less watts Crosair 450W)

Pls note I will not be buying a monitor now

Ok i searched alot and found these 3 mobos pls tell me if they are good

MSI 790GX-G65 AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

i want which ne is better in terms of relaibility VFM After sales service
 
Gigabyte MA785GMT UD2H - 5.5k
MSI 785GM E51 - 4.6k
MSI 785GM E65 - 5.6k
Asus M4A785TD EVO - 6.5k

You can opt for any of these AM3 mobos if you don't want Biostar mobos
 
CPU: AMD Athlon II x4 630 -5150
Mobo: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO -6500
RAM: 2GB 1333MHz Corsair DDRIII RAM -3000
HDD: WD Blue -2350
Cabinet: NZXT GAMMA/ CM Elite 310 -2000/1600
PSU/SMPS: Corsair VX 450/CX400/Seasonic S12II 380w -3800/2800/3000
Total: Rs:21400-22800

The total power consumption of ur PC wont even cross 150w during normal-heavy usage as of now and even after adding a 6k(5xxx/6xxx) series GPU it wont cross 200w. So its better to go for a 400-450w PSU to maintain high efficiency. A PSU offers its highest efficieny when the load is between 40-60% of the rated wattage.

Its not about the wattage when it comes to a PSU. Its about how much watts a PSU can deliver continously. How efficient it is, how clean the power delivered is etc.. Also take into note the warranty. The VX450 has 5 years warranty. Even the VX450 is a overkill for your system. The ideal efficient PSU(80+ efficiency certified) for you would be Corsair CX400(3 yrs warranty) - 2.8-3k or the Seasonic S12II 380w(5 yrs warranty) - 3-3.1k~. Both can easily handle your forecasted future upgrades for the next 5 years with ease.
 
i3 - 530 5.7k
Intel DH55TC 5.5k
4GB 1333MHz Kingston DDRIII RAM 5.8k
500 GB WD Blue 2.3k
CM Elite 310 1.5k
Corsair VX450 3.8K
TOTAL ~ 24.6K:D
 
Components Model Description Price (INR)

CPU Athlon II x4 630 5050
Mobo Gigabyte MA 785GMT UD2H 5300
RAM 2GB 1333MHz Kingston DDRIII RAM 2700
HDD WD Blue 2300
Cabinet CM Elite 310 / NZXT Gamma 1500 / 2000
PSU/SMPS Corsair VX 450 4100
Total 20950 / 21450

I recommended WD Blue in comparison to Seagate as WD has 5 years warranty while Seagate reduced it to 3 years warranty
 
ok thank u very much guys everything is almost finalised

but i'm just wondering tat u guys did not recommend

AMD Phenomâ„¢ X4 9650

it's got L3 cache too & costs meybe 500 or 800 more

just curious
 
impulse1992 said:
ok thank u very much guys everything is almost finalised

but i'm just wondering tat u guys did not recommend
AMD Phenomâ„¢ X4 9650
it's got L3 cache too & costs meybe 500 or 800 more
just curious
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Phenom x4 9650 is no where near Athlon II x4 630 . It couldn't even beat Core 2 Duo 2.66GHZ let alone Athlon II x4 630. Still curious ? Want more info ?
 
impulse1992 said:
ok thank u very much guys everything is almost finalised

but i'm just wondering tat u guys did not recommend
AMD Phenomâ„¢ X4 9650
it's got L3 cache too & costs meybe 500 or 800 more
just curious
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AnandTech Bench (beta): AMD Phenom X4 9650 vs AMD Athlon II X4 630

Check it out. This is why the AMD Phenomâ„¢ X4 9650 is not recommend. Its costlier and slower too in all benchmarks, real world apps and games.

Also its a 65nm technology and pretty old. Most vendors dont even stock them now a days. The Phenom's(1st gen.) are pretty much forgotten now.

Anubis said:
Phenom x4 9650 is no where near Athlon II x4 630 . It couldn't even beat Core 2 Duo 2.66GHZ let alone Athlon II x4 630. Still curious ? Want more info ?
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Go easy on him boss. Most newbies are like this. Insufficient knowledge about the tech.
 
I built a recent desktop (after asking here)

Components Model Description Price (INR)

CPU Athlon II x2 240 -

Mobo Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 (integrated nvidia 6100) 5.9k (with processor)

RAM 4GB Kingston DDRII RAM 4.7k

HDD 500GB WD 2.3k

Cabinet Zebronics Bijli 1.1k

PSU/SMPS CoolerMaster CM350 1.5k

Total 15500

I suggest you then put in about 6-8k to buy a 19-22 in LCD. This is not as powerful as the configs written up above, but it is a lot cheaper - even after accounting for 4GB RAM. I can never have too much RAM.

You have more money left over to buy a better graphics card.
 
lol sorry guys just realized 9650 is phenom not phenom II lol

Guys how much does a cheapest phenom 2 x4 processor cost?
 
PhenomII X4 925 - 7.1k~
You can also get a PhenomII 555BE and if you are lucky you may unlock it to a tri/quad core(955BE). Check the CPU/Mobo corner for unlocking experiences of users.
 
DarkAngel said:
PhenomII X4 925 - 7.1k~
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Is It worth extra 2000?

DarkAngel said:
You can also get a PhenomII 555BE and if you are lucky you may unlock it to a tri/quad core(955BE). Check the CPU/Mobo corner for unlocking experiences of users.
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I know tat but don't wanna try tat maybe a lil risky:(

THNX For ur Replies:)

Do I need any Ups now if yes pls suggest
 
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