Post Graduation Advice Needed.

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d@rK nEmEsIs

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Hey guys i need some serious advice for one of my friends.

Her parents are hellbent on sending her to USA for pursuing MS in IT.But she plans to return back to India after completing her MS.She has completed her Bsc in IT.

Now for doing MS she will need to do one year MSc in IT here and then after completing that,carry on with MS.

Now here are my queries:

Is is a wise decision to do such thing or waste of time and money?

What value will this degree have in India?

Will it provide better job opportunities in India compared to an MBA graduate?

Is it better to do MBA from here only rather than going for MS(with no plans to work there)?

Will a MS from USA with say 1 year of work xp get more pay than a MBA from India with same work xp?

please answer these questions,as she does not have much time to decide and need some solid information to show to her parents to change their opinion.
 
If sure about coming back to India - No point in going to USA unless its from a super awesome university. Make sure to get into a decent university in India though.
 
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No point in doing it from outside if you plan to come back.... MS , MBA outside is an investment on oneself which is mostly returned if you work outside India with a higher salary... The high fees in getting a degree from US can only compensated IMO if you work in US....

Also IT is a the most crowded area now with everyone capable of doing the job... What good would a US degree do if she just wants to work in a India where she would probably get jobs in one of the big IT firms TCS, Infy, Wipro which pay peanuts to Indians and with everyone just waiting for onsite outside India to earn some cash....
 
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any inputs on this query:

Will a MS from USA with say 1 year of work xp get more pay than a MBA from India with same work xp?
 
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^^ Which University in US and which college in India.... There is no exact answer to your query...

Also if the said person is say in IIMs, MDI, Narsi, Symby, XLRI, Narsi, Amity etc etc. ... Placement and salary would depend on Luck, Interview, Offer, Company coming, Summer Internship if its converted to a PPO or PPI
 
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getting admission in a good MBA college in India will be much tougher than getting one for MS in a good university abroad. MBA and MS in IT are almost completely different fields of study. What does she want to do in the future?

What are her reasons for not going abroad for further studies? more importantly, are they valid enough to go against her parents wishes?

Ask her to consult with a good career counsellor to know about the pros/cons of both choices.
 
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Yeah both paths need a minimum of a 3 months of preparation for the exams and in case of MS another few for application preparation, recommendations, SOP, getting documents ready, waiting for acceptance then VISA interview, finances and finally actual flight....

MBA on the other had needs more preparation IMO and also lots of applications, waiting for acceptance, 2nd round's GD, interview... Then acceptance, finances, certificates and all and finally joining....

Its not just what her parents want as their desire alone wont get her a admit in any college... It requires a dedicated effort on her part to choose her career path

PS: Above advice is only if she is considering joining good Universities or colleges and not those who offer admission just if u apply and are ready to pay the fees :P
 
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if she is going abroad she has to have a very very good profile and back it with equally good work experience.i would advice her to give a serious attempt to cat and try for one of the ivy leagues over here.if she comes back to india with a not so good univ degree she doesnt have much chance of getting the return on investment she has made.you should only go the u.s if you have a 5 year work ex and getting admits in a top college.
 
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guys answer this really simple question.

Getting a MS from USA and then coming back to india after doing internship or doing mba from india itself is a good idea??

She is not interested in technical things so wont a MS be waste for her.His brother has done MS in IT from Boston University but he is staying there for like 4 years to work.So her parents are telling her also to do MS but she will come back as soon as the course gets over.Wont it be waste of time and money???
 
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d@rK nEmEsIs said:
any inputs on this query:

Will a MS from USA with say 1 year of work xp get more pay than a MBA from India with same work xp?
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Quoting below things because I HAVE EXAMPLES OF MY FRIENDS!

1) no point in doing MS if she wants to come back. unless she works there for 4-5yrs with some quality experience (no programmer job - you get in dozens here)
2) MS (fresher or 1-2yrs exp) is considered over qualified here and she wont get a job - when the same stuff can be done by BSc/BE then why get a MS?
most of the employers are taken back seeing a US degree and believe that an MS person would have high expectations in all respects and they would not be able to afford them. they simply don't consider MS ppl.
3) MBA in india and MS in US cannot be compared. you are comparing apples to oranges.

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d@rK nEmEsIs said:
guys answer this really simple question.

Getting a MS from USA and then coming back to india after doing internship or doing mba from india itself is a good idea??

She is not interested in technical things so wont a MS be waste for her.His brother has done MS in IT from Boston University but he is staying there for like 4 years to work.So her parents are telling her also to do MS but she will come back as soon as the course gets over.Wont it be waste of time and money???
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MS from US and then come back and do MBA... crazy stuff.. waste of time and money.:@

you yourself have answer to your questions! MS has a lot of courses and not only tech. she needs to find out her area of interest and then pick up a course accordingly. She can change her whole stream and career path by enrolling into a right course. She needs to evaluate the prospects of that course in india if she wants to comeback.
 
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@all thanks for the detailed inputs.

@malique

So it makes more sense to do MBA from India itself if she does not want to stay in US after MS.
 
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Doing an MS from USA, and then not gathering any work experience + coming back immediately, is not advisable. Better try for an MBA from India.
 
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If you get into US' top 50 universities for MS, which is neither impossible, but does cost about 50-80 lacs for 2 years at full cost all inclusive, then you can easily be assured of a better pay than a MTech from IIT or BITS Pilani. And a much better future ahead, even if you return to India.

In fact, that is the ideal way. It will come close to getting a MBA from Top 15 MBA colleges in India (apart from top 3 IIMs and ISB) in terms of salary even when you return to India.

But you need to make sure that the college you go to at least makes it to US's top 50 MS CS colleges and that isn't a difficult aim at all if you are willing to pay the full fees. If you want scholarship, it may be much tougher.

But a MS from a top 15 US college will land you with 1-2 Lacs per month job straight out of college. And a MS from top 40-50 US colleges will get you a 50-60k pm minimum and may go as much as 1-1.5 lacs straight out of college with 0 work exp irrespective of your bachelors.

And if the college is really that good and if you have done well there and perform in your job, you can expect your pay package to increase to 2-3 times of the figures mentioned within the next 5-10 years, besides the increase to match inflation. So a top 30-40 US MS will probably get you a 25 minimum -50L maximum package at the age of 35-45 or so.

But you need to make sure that you don't go into crappy colleges like Drexel or anything. You need to target NYU league, or at least top 30-50 US colleges which include the likes of Illinois, Carnegie Mellon etc. The bare minimum has to be above the Florida University level.

And if you are willing to work there for 4-5 years, you will probably land here with a 3-5L pm if you go to top 15-25 colleges.
 
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@rite But for that to happen,she has to stay there and work for like 4 to 5 years.She has no plans of staying there after completing her MS if she goes to USA.Will MS be still advisable???

"But a MS from a top 15 US college will land you with 1-2 Lacs per month job straight out of college. And a MS from top 40-50 US colleges will get you a 50-60k pm minimum and may go as much as 1-1.5 lacs straight out of college with 0 work exp irrespective of your bachelors."

1-2 lac in India with zero work xp in USA???

"MS (fresher or 1-2yrs exp) is considered over qualified here and she wont get a job - when the same stuff can be done by BSc/BE then why get a MS?

most of the employers are taken back seeing a US degree and believe that an MS person would have high expectations in all respects and they would not be able to afford them. they simply don't consider MS ppl. "

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Any insights on above statements.
 
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Read the entire post. That is only if you want a 50L annual package. To get a 8-20 L annual package, work exp isn't needed. Just go for a top 40-50 college and perform well. You will roughly land up with a 1L pm plus minus. Maybe 60-70k, maybe 1.5L pm. But it can't be Drexel level. It has to be NYU or Carnegie Mellon or at least Illinois level.
 
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@rite

Your statements and that of malique contradicts each other.You are trying to say a person who has done MS in usa will easily land a 50k to 60k job in India even if she does not have any work xp in usa.
 
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^You are out of your mind if you are going by techboi's posts. :/
 
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dude MS is not easy. fcking tough nut to crack. One has to study lot. If she is not interested then I don't think she can handle the pressure.
 
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