Security Software Preffered VPN

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Hello TE,

Do any of you use VPN? Which one do yo use and costing / subscrition do you use? I was usng IPVanish and it has stoped as my subscrition has ended.

Pls advise
 
We have been using surfshark for more than 5 years. With around 10 members group buy. Perhaps Rs.600 per user per 2 years? I do not remember.

The apps are also good, you can use both the desktop app and browser extensions simultaneously.
There are vpn and website bypass features on the desktop app.

These are cool little features.



If you really care about privacy, check Techlore's suggestion on youtube.
 
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We have been using surfshark for more than 5 years. With around 10 members group buy. Perhaps Rs.600 per user per 2 years? I do not remember.

The apps are also good, you can use both the desktop app and browser extensions simultaneously.
There are vpn and website bypass features on the desktop app.

These are cool little features.



If you really care about privacy, check Techlore's suggestion on youtube.
I just saw that it's for unlimited devices on a single subscription?
 
i had Bitdefender which gives just 200 mb perday... this is free version. Then i had switched to IPVanish,,, Was looking for No-log policy VPN which as shared servers.
 
If you are serious about VPN, then only Mullvad and iVPN offer privacy. ProtonVPN is also decent for its price. Rest all are part of the same large groups. Surfshark, for example, was purchased by NordVPN as a value option with a lot of blacklisted and overloaded servers. PIA was acquired by Kape which is by far the worst of all VPN owners. Windscribe is part of the 14 eyes network and duty bound to share info with US/Canada.

If you just want to bypass geo restrictions, just get one of the lifetime deals available for $30-40 on various websites.
I just saw that it's for unlimited devices on a single subscription?
Yes, but they keep logging out devices repeatedly if more than a few access the account simultaneously.
 
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If you are serious about VPN, then only Mullvad and iVPN offer privacy. ProtonVPN is also decent for its price. Rest all are part of the same large groups. Surfshark, for example, was purchased by NordVPN as a value option with a lot of blacklisted and overloaded servers. PIA was acquired by Kape which is by far the worst of all VPN owners. Windscribe is part of the 14 eyes network and duty bound to share info with US/Canada.
Mullvad has a good reputation & most likely because of that they chose to stop offering port forwarding feature on their service as they don't really want torrent users as their customers after some of their unidentified customers got caught using illegal torrents (aka not the typical pirated media but something much more illegal).

If you just want to bypass geo restrictions, just get one of the lifetime deals available for $30-40 on various websites.
The problem with those lifetime deals is that they are not financially sustainable so after some time the experience of using the service drops significantly. Better to pay more for 1/2 year plans of well established providers.
 
Windscribe is part of the 14 eyes network and duty bound to share info with US/Canada.
The "14 Eyes" thing isn't really relevant if you live in India IMO - the entire point of alliances like that is to provide a legal loophole through which countries can spy on their citizens by proxy, since doing it directly is forbidden by their own laws. India has plenty of exemptions for the similar laws that we have that allows the government to spy with impunity anyway if they so choose, so they don't really need to go through any SIGINT alliances. Therefore, the most important aspects of a VPN with regards to privacy would be whether they have a history of collaboration with any of the entities you're concerned about, and whether they're legally obligated to store data on you for government use, which I don't believe is actually a thing for most of the "Eyes"; they're required to turn over what they have, but not required to store anything in the first place AFAIK. This is unlike places like China or India, where that is a requirement.
I personally use WindScribe - they have a great free tier, and I got an offer a year ago that gets me Pro for 29$/year, which is a great value. I've been thinking about switching to Mullvad because of the Tailscale integration, but I don't think I can justify paying over twice as much for my relatively limited use case. Just did a quick search and apparently the code WINDSOME was still working as of Jan 2nd.
 
Mullvad has a good reputation & most likely because of that they chose to stop offering port forwarding feature on their service as they don't really want torrent users as their customers after some of their unidentified customers got caught using illegal torrents (aka not the typical pirated media but something much more illegal).


The problem with those lifetime deals is that they are not financially sustainable so after some time the experience of using the service drops significantly. Better to pay more for 1/2 year plans of well established providers.
I have a couple that I mostly use to bypass geo restrictions for streaming or if my public IP is blacklisted (since it is behind a CGNAT). Have been working fine for over couple of years in which case it is worth their price, since they cost about what most mainstream providers charge for a year.
The "14 Eyes" thing isn't really relevant if you live in India IMO - the entire point of alliances like that is to provide a legal loophole through which countries can spy on their citizens by proxy, since doing it directly is forbidden by their own laws. India has plenty of exemptions for the similar laws that we have that allows the government to spy with impunity anyway if they so choose, so they don't really need to go through any SIGINT alliances. Therefore, the most important aspects of a VPN with regards to privacy would be whether they have a history of collaboration with any of the entities you're concerned about, and whether they're legally obligated to store data on you for government use, which I don't believe is actually a thing for most of the "Eyes"; they're required to turn over what they have, but not required to store anything in the first place AFAIK. This is unlike places like China or India, where that is a requirement.
I personally use WindScribe - they have a great free tier, and I got an offer a year ago that gets me Pro for 29$/year, which is a great value. I've been thinking about switching to Mullvad because of the Tailscale integration, but I don't think I can justify paying over twice as much for my relatively limited use case. Just did a quick search and apparently the code WINDSOME was still working as of Jan 2nd.
The thing is Windscribe has actively refused independent audit of their "no logs" policy.

They also keep actively publishing blogs against 14 eyes, as if they need to keep defending themselves. Also, doesn't generally work well with streaming services.

Again, if you only need a VPN for the sake of geo restrictions, cheap lifetime ones in Asia or East Europe work just as well.
 
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