PC Peripherals PSU For The Monsterous Msi GTX560Ti Hawk.

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Hi guys .

My Courrent configuration is :

Intel Core 2 Duo E7500

Intel DG41RQ Motherboard

2*2 Kingston 4 GB Ram

Corsair VX450W PSU

Samsung B2230 21.5" LCD

Coolermaster Elite 330 Cabinet.

I may upgrade to i5 or similar later , so the psu should juice all components . I am willing to add a 120 mm Fan and a hard disk later .

My max. budget is 4.5k.

Regards,

Sushant
 
^^ Sire, it'll not suffice, suggest you upgrade to the Corsair VX 550W ~ 4400/- OR Seasonic S12II 620W ~ 4700/- TheITWares - One Stop for all Gizmos!SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply, if you can extend your budget a little go for the Corsair TX V2 650W ~ 5400/-, for better upgrade paths later and sufficient breathing space on the SMPS even on load.

Also, if you are going to purchase the Core i5 RIG later and just buy the SMPS + GPU right now it'll make no sense as the CPU [Core 2Duo] will be a major bottle-neck for the performance of the graphics card itself.

Hope this helps, Cheers!!
 
ALPHA17 said:
^^ Sire, it'll not suffice,
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err...how will VX450 not suffice??

ALPHA17 said:
it'll make no sense as the CPU [Core 2Duo] will be a major bottle-neck for the performance of the graphics card itself
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If you are talking about the E7500 and GTX560ti then i disagree, it'll not be a bottleneck. I've seen some guys running i3 540 and GTX280 SLI.. shocking but true.

@OP, get the Seasonic S12II 520W for 3.5k. It'll be fine if you dont go for "major" upgrades (HD6970/GTX570 up) in the future.
 
There will be performance bottlenecks you will need to change your processor soon to make full usage of the PC , vx450 may suffice but atleast a vx550 or a seasonic-520 is needed . I am using a vx550 for the 560ti hawk edition .
 
iPwnz said:
err...how will VX450 not suffice??

If you are talking about the E7500 and GTX560ti then i disagree, it'll not be a bottleneck. I've seen some guys running i3 540 and GTX280 SLI.. shocking but true.

@OP, get the Seasonic S12II 520W for 3.5k. It'll be fine if you dont go for "major" upgrades (HD6970/GTX570 up) in the future.
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People do run the config as you said, but it undergoes bottleneck for sure, especially Exxx. i3 is still better than that, although SB would provide you best results with much help from its IMC.

Now for the PSU, 520w may seem fine, but it does not gives a headroom for anything. So better go for Seasonic S12II 620W, or at least Corsair GS 600. If money is not a constraint, then Corsair Tx650 V2. :)
 
I don't think a PSU upgrade is required. I think someone on this forum itself had successfully run/tested an SLI/Crossfire config on a VX450. That PSU is very good and not like cheap local brands which won't deliver even the rated power. If it says 450W then it will actually deliver 450 W when required.

Some actual numbers.

Check the system power usage under load with the 560TI and an overclocked i7-920.

AnandTech - NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 560 Ti: Upsetting The $250 Market

Even furmark which stresses the GPU to its limits takes the power usage to 352W. I think that is the actual power drawn from socket but even if it is not and the system is actually sucking out 352W from the PSU, there is well over 20% buffer.

Keep in mind that these numbers use an overclocked i7-920 which has a TDP of 130W while your processor has a TDP of 65W.

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My suggestions is to use the current PSU and upgrade it if you feel the need when you go for the i5+HDD etc upgrades.
 
Dude as long as you stick to single gpu config 520w is more than sufficient till 6950!! since you got the budget go for Seasonic S12II 620W so you can stop worrying about the psu for another 3-4 yrs no matter what you add in your pc you will always have a headroom in it :)
Regarding the bottleneck maximum you will loose couple of fps so dont worry as long as you are not a hardcore gamer!!!
 
And most people say that VX 450 can handle but dont risk you PC.
And in your budget you can get Seasonic s12II 620w
By getting S12II 620 you can forget about a PSU ugrade for your future upgrades till the PSU dies. :P
So Seasonic S12II 620 is more than enough for your current rig and would help you to OC i5 2500k and GTX 560Ti or HD 6950,which you are going to get.
Else dont get any PSU instead save some money and go for seasonic s12 II 620w or Corsair TX V2 650W ~ 5400/- if possible.
 
JuGGa said:
i3 is still better than that
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But the OP wont be running GTX560ti in SLI, is he? That's why i said E7500 will be fine.
JuGGa said:
Now for the PSU, 520w may seem fine, but it does not gives a headroom for anything. So better go for Seasonic S12II 620W, or at least Corsair GS 600. If money is not a constraint, then Corsair Tx650 V2. :)
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Also i'd rather buy the 520W over the GS600 anytime. I'm not looking at the "wattage" alone. But the reliability and the internal components too. And from what i hear GS from Corsair and GX from CM are to be avoided as they don't use good components for their prices.
Wattage, no doubt, is important but then reliability too plays a part imo.
If budget allows then obviously the OP should go with the S12II 620W or even the TX650 V2.
 
iPwnz said:
But the OP wont be running GTX560ti in SLI, is he? That's why i said E7500 will be fine.
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The Core 2 architecture is really old, has memory management issues which the current Core i- line up of processors has largely remedied [thanks to removal of FSB and advent of integrated memory controllers on die]. Also they do not support the latest SSE libraries, whether he [OP] SLi's OR not he is setting a ceiling on performance.
 
E7500 + 560 ti total bottleneck, why are you even buying this card get a 550ti or something lower than 560ti because the card won't perform at it's best due to bottleneck so no need of getting a 560ti.. IMO
 
ganesh said:
Regarding the bottleneck maximum you will loose couple of fps so dont worry as long as you are not a hardcore gamer!!!
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Not true, you won't get even 20 fps on GTA IV or Crysis 2 even on low settings on GTX 560 ti with EXXX series. I had E7200 and it was disaster performance degrade with HD 6850.

So, CPU upgrade is a must for at least 2nd Gen i3 proccy.
 
ashis_lakra said:
Not true, you won't get even 20 fps on GTA IV or Crysis 2 even on low settings on GTX 560 ti with EXXX series. I had E7200 and it was disaster performance degrade with HD 6850.

So, CPU upgrade is a must for at least 2nd Gen i3 proccy.
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By what you're saying, it means that these games are more dependent on CPU rather than GPU. :S My GPU 6630M is no where near to yours, but it still gives 25fps easily. Also if you say I've got 2nd gen i5, in some scenes fps drops to 10. What happens to CPU in that case, "according to you" ?
 
^ashis_lakra - GTA IV is just a very badly ported game. So fps will be like that he obviously can patch it or use game booster or something i am sure even you will get less than 40 at high settings!! regarding crysis 2 I doubt that am sure he can play at low-medium setting at a playable fps with that gfx!! Since they are cpu intensive games increasing the resolution a bit help to solve the bottleneck to some extend...
 
Yes, increasing the resolution might help a little, But i can assure you that you won't be happy when you pair a C2D with HD 6850 even in high resolutions.. performance will take a dip.. anyway,, just let us know about your experience in Christmas after buying a HD 6850 . looking forward for your review with screenshots .... :P
 
^dude am not saying its a good combo i know he can't utilize the gfx's full potential but he can upgrade the proccy later doesn't mean he has to go along with it..
And for your info am getting phenom in january or i5 if budget permits lolzz.. ;)
 
Well.. I bought Seasonic 620W. But The Problem still persists, The drivers fails to detect the graphic card while the The graphics card is running (fan and the red le lights on the graphic card) . The card is RMA'ed btw. There is white lines all over the montor display looks like in safe mode(without driver). Please help.
 
JuGGa said:
By what you're saying, it means that these games are more dependent on CPU rather than GPU. :S My GPU 6630M is no where near to yours, but it still gives 25fps easily. Also if you say I've got 2nd gen i5, in some scenes fps drops to 10. What happens to CPU in that case, "according to you" ?
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bro i was using my 6950 1gb with my Q9550 proccy, i play cod black ops alot i got 60 FPS on avg and now after upgrading to i5 2500K i get 90+ on avg.:) so that means even my 4 core was not able to handle 6950 1gb there was a big bottleneck.:(
 
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