PC Peripherals Psu Power

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Shakensoul said:
Why do all of the newer PS’s from the big names have so much +12V amperage?
Back in the P3 & before days, the +12V rail did not have all that many demands placed on it. Today, it is very stressed with lots of demands & in the future, at least until we go to +20V rails (or whatever voltage they finally decide upon), it will be even more stressed with more demands.
That was quite a good explanation. Only in the last part you got a bit carried away I guess :)
Basically the history of 12V is linked to the automotive industry. Since car batteries are 12 V, a lot of electronics has been designed to work off this voltage. This will certainly stay in future and there is no reason to migrate to 20 V or whatever.
 
Well, x86, im sticking with Antec, coz of the High Amps on the Rails.

Itll last me, and us infact, longer.

As soon as i can sell my Case, ill get down to prime and check em out.

Chaos, any way to know if the NeoHE is an older or new revision?
 
goldenfrag said:
Well, x86, im sticking with Antec, coz of the High Amps on the Rails.
Itll last me, and us infact, longer.
As soon as i can sell my Case, ill get down to prime and check em out.

Chaos, any way to know if the NeoHE is an older or new revision?
Eddy told me all the ones in India are the new revision.
 
Alright.

Ill talk to gulbir bhai.. Ill make a deal with him that if the NeoHE fails, hell give me/us an TP2 550, for no additional charge :P. Ill try atleast :P..
 
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Shakensoul said:
Dual +12V Rails:
Most PS’s today supply all of their +12V amperage through one rail, just like almost every PS manufacturer supplies their +3.3V and +5V through one rail each. However some forward thinking manufacture’s are supplying their +12V amperage through more than one rail, the most common today for PC’s is to use two +12V rails or dual rails.

Why more than one +12V rail?
Electrical isolation for noise and improved voltage regulation. Some devices, usually electromechanical ones having motors, produce noise spikes & voltage fluxuations, these can include pumps, compressors, fans, drives, lights (when turned on & off) and probably TEC’s & Peltiers. By putting these “noisy†devices, that often turn on & off, or at least often change their power (amperage) demands, on a separate rail we isolate them from the MoBo, CPU, Video Card(s) and the other electronic components that are sensitive to noise & sudden changes in voltage. This is a good thing!

Are 2 rails better than 1?
Short answer = Yes. It depends on your system as to weather or not dual rails would actually be of any benefit. If yours is a simple system, with no exotic cooling, large disk arrays or flashing lights, then you would probably not benefit from dual rails.

Do I need 2 or more +12V rails?
Short answer = No. It depends on your system as to weather or not dual rails would actually be of any benefit. If yours is a complex system, with exotic cooling, large disk arrays or flashing lights, then you would probably benefit from dual rails.

What is the difference between dual rails and just using a splitter?
In a dual rail design the PS has two transformer taps and control circuitry for two separate +12V rails. Using a splitter can be very helpful, especially if you split off your “noisy†loads very close to the PS, as this will lessen their effects on your more sensitive components, however the dual rail design would still be much better if you have a lot of “noisy†loads.

Why do all of the newer PS’s from the big names have so much +12V amperage?
The future is going to be much hotter! And I’m not talking about Global Warming, or at least not directly. Back in the P3 & before days, the +12V rail did not have all that many demands placed on it. Today, it is very stressed with lots of demands & in the future, at least until we go to +20V rails (or whatever voltage they finally decide upon), it will be even more stressed with more demands. With the Thermalright XP-90 we have just about reached the upper limits of normal air-cooling. Apple has already gone beyond air-cooling and historically Apple has often lead the way for the PC world. Overclocked Intel P4 Prescott’s can only be kept at reasonable temps with extreme effort. Both AMD & Intel are soon to bring to market “Dual Core†CPU’s, which will require more power to operate and cool than a similar design single core CPU. In the future for “High-End†and “Overclocked†systems we are going to need all of the +12V amperage we can get and it should be on more than one rail for “Electrical isolation for noise and improved voltage regulation.â€

The future of ATX PS's is dual rails, as the "ATX 12 v2.0" spec requires them.

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goldenfrag said:
Alright.
Ill talk to gulbir bhai.. Ill make a deal with him that if the NeoHE fails, hell give me/us an TP2 550, for no additional charge :P. Ill try atleast :P..
NeoHE out of stock everywhere :P. Wait a month to get one now.
 
NeoHE OEM is actually seasonic :P. Yup seasonic PSUs are nice, but overpriced. The S12 600W is pretty good and comparable to the 500W NeoHE.
 
LOL very few companies actually make their own psus. Seasonic makes the silencer series for PCP&C as well. Some models of the turbocool are made by FSP.
 
Chaos said:
NeoHE OEM is actually seasonic :P. Yup seasonic PSUs are nice, but overpriced. The S12 600W is pretty good and comparable to the 500W NeoHE.

A Seasonic S12 600W for $140 is overpriced? LOL, what about Antec prices in India - they're not? :D
 
RiO said:
A Seasonic S12 600W for $140 is overpriced? LOL, what about Antec prices in India - they're not? :D
Antec's are...but not by a big amount, depends on the source they use..@ not on topic - major siggy edit...:ohyeah:
 
RiO said:
A Seasonic S12 600W for $140 is overpriced? LOL, what about Antec prices in India - they're not? :D
Well I consider 140$ plus shipping overpriced when you can get antecs, FSP etc for a lot less. Why are you comparing it with prices in india :S. Indian prices are always higher. Also if a psu bought in the US dies, god help you :P.
 
$140 shipped so I consider that pretty darn good... agree that it's a pain if a component bought in the US fails, but I frequent the US and it's not an issue for me. Thankfully though, none of the stuff I've bought over there has ever failed (fingers crossed, of course ;))
 
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