Questions about JB PS3

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Vasishta.Sushant

Vasishta.Sushant

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I want to use my PS3 as my Music/Media player. Soon I'll be swapping the 160GB drive with the 1TB one and will dump all my music on it.

Now this console will also contain the backups and all and No I just do not need the PSN access or any online gaming thing. But I do want to get other online services like online media update, normal internet access and any other application that works over the internet, but the PSN gaming related stuff.

Also I will turn off the automatic system updates.

With all these things in my mind, is there a reason for me to not get online ?

I am actually a little scared about the machine being banned or any other similar goofup.

With JB as my primary motive, should I risk getting online ?
 
It's actually a lot simpler than you think. When you are in JB Mode, don't go online. If you do want to go online, just yank out the USB JB Chip before you startup your PS3. That's it and that is what is so great about this JB method. It's never permanent.

When you say "swap the 160 GB with a 1 TB drive", do you mean the PS3 Internal Drive?
 
Thanks for the reply. I was actually worried about PS3 system getting a list of updates somehow and then forcing me to update the system software. I remember it has happened to me before. But I guess that was to access PSN store. Still wanted to confirm.

Yes I meant the internal drive.
 
Satan said:
If you do want to go online, just yank out the USB JB Chip before you startup your PS3. That's it and that is what is so great about this JB method. It's never permanent.
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Errr...you forget that the console needs to have 3.50 firmware to go online. The 3.50 spoof would only work for JB mode.

Sushant, my advice is to stay offline. Once Sony figures out this trick (which won't be long now), they will find ways to a.) Either flag your console or b.) out rightly ban it. So be careful. What exactly do you mean by PSN gaming related stuff?
 
Ethan_Hunt said:
Errr...you forget that the console needs to have 3.50 firmware to go online. The 3.50 spoof would only work for JB mode.

Sushant, my advice is to stay offline. Once Sony figures out this trick (which won't be long now), they will find ways to a.) Either flag your console or b.) out rightly ban it. So be careful. What exactly do you mean by PSN gaming related stuff?
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EH????

Ok I think you misunderstood what the OP is talking about. He's not interested in going online for PSN access. He's just looking to explore any other features of the PS3 that could use the internet.

Also I don't get what you mean by "The console needs to have 3.50 firmware to go online. The 3.50 spoof would only work for JB mode."

The current payload available allows you to go online (PSN) with FW 3.41 while at the same time also offering a 3.50 firmware spoof. Going online on a PS3 can mean a lot of things, one of which happens to be PSN. That's the only kind of online on the PS3 that everyone needs to be cautious about while in JB mode.

@ Sushant... I re-iterate again

* Do not game online while in JB mode. Hell don't even go online for any reason while JB mode, wether it's to game or for anything else.
* As long as you are not in JB mode, you are free to do what you like.
* For the time being & at the time of writing this, make sure that you don't upgrade your firmware beyong FW 3.41. I'm sure you already know this but I'm just mentioning it again to be on the safe side.

Also, you can't upgrade your internal drive to 1 TB at the moment. The PS3 internal drive spec allows for only 9.5 mm drives (standard spec) and not the 12.5 mm drives that you find available in all of the Portable USB Powered 1 TB External drives. The maximum you can go upto is a 750 GB drive which is available in the 9.5mm spec, but those are not very populated in the market as of now. Personally, I'm upgrading mine to a Hitachi 500 GB drive. I have an IC for it in the Hot Deals Section if you are interested.
 
LOL... I guess it was just a matter of time before they plugged it but I'm glad to know they are not mass banning jail broken PS3's.

Still, I know a few people who are gaming with 3.41 using original titles. Guess it's not a mandatory upgrade to FW 3.5 across the world at the moment.
 
Sony block access to PSN for PSJAILBREAK users

The recently held maintainance was for a reason after all. Several reports from users the world over suggests that you can no longer access PSN if you have been foolish enough to use the PSJAILBREAK device.

Our sources can confirm that this is indeed true and Sony has blocked access to PSN for anyone with a hacked PS3. This was implemented during the recently concluded maintainance that PSN went through last night.

Do note that this will be in effect even if you DON'T update to the current firmware update. Sony has implemented a system which will detect your hacked PS3 as soon as you connect to PSN.

If you have been using the PSJ and can't access PSN yourselves, kindly let us know. You should have known better though, you got what you deserved!
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Source: PlayStation Beyond - News - Sony block access to PSN for PSJAILBREAK users
 
I honestly think most of these "news services" are trying to create sensationalistic headlines in an effort to bring in more hits.

I don't belive there is a way Sony can detect a JB PS3 even when the dongle is not connected. The point is that it isn't a permanent jail break. As soon as you restart the PS3 without the dongle, it's back to plain old PS3.

If anyone has been banned / been forced to upgrade, chances are that they have been gaming on PSN while the PS3 was in JB Dev mode.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.
 
Satan said:
I don't belive there is a way Sony can detect a JB PS3 even when the dongle is not connected. The point is that it isn't a permanent jail break. As soon as you restart the PS3 without the dongle, it's back to plain old PS3.
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Depends I guess. If there is a way to detect the unsigned applications (Backup managers and the likes) which have been installed on the system post JB'ing it, then they might find a way ban those consoles or take some other mesaures.
 
You do realize that Sony never intended this to happen. They tightened up security against running unsigned code. However the JB mode is not running unsigned code per se , we are in the same userland as the official developers. There is ideally no way to detect this... what they CAN do however is run your PS3 ID against a list of verified dev consoles. Why they would have such a list in the first place is sthn i'm not sure of. Nobody can confirm whether such a list even exists tbh....

Mind you i'm not talking about online games. When you play online with a backup , it is extremely easy to find out the JB people ... How ? Well coz the Game ID will be different from the game that you are playing xD

In other news, GT5 has been compiled using the 3.30 SDK so it might be possible to run it via JB , who would dedicate 45-50 gigs of space for a single game is beyond me though :P
 
Very Insightful Dhruv. The Dev Console List thing is genius even though it might not exist. Although I must say, it is fun to think up of ways that Sony might be able to achieve this blockade.

GT5 Backup is between 13 GB to 20 GB depending on the Source.
 
^ Around 13.5 GB lets see why there is such much of hype around the game.
 
I got that. My idea of being online was to get updates for the stuff like photo viewer / music player etc. And since I'll be streaming a lot of stuff from my netbook to the PS3 (movies and music), I kind of need my system in the network.

Also I got online and I was being prompted to update the system software. I could skip it but I am afraid that this might become a mandate at some later stage.

What do you guys suggest now ?
 
Stay offline for now. Streaming shouldn't be a problem. I think Gannu streams stuff constantly from his lappy, so you can check if there is anything additional that you need.
 
dhruvrock2000 said:
Are the backups already floating around ? Well i guess my size guessing was wrong.
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Yep, Scene released it a few days ago.

@ Vashisht: Dude, all you need is access to your own LAN for Media Streaming. Do what I did to be completely safe: Set WAN access restrictions on your router for your PS3 IP / MAC address. I don't think you can specifically turn off only internet access on your PS3 while still being connected to a LAN that has WAN access.
 
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