Forum Feedback Request to Dealers/Mods/Members!!
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though this is completely my personal opinion, based not upon any statistics but the general feeling i am getting from different posts from different mods that, Dealers are being given undue favour, why? just coz they are paying a paltry sum to TE????? Is TE becoming Ebay for enthusiasts????
hmmmm... we certainly dont want to do anything like that intentionally. Definitely not for that paltry sum. Not even for a good sum for that matter. Hope to keep TE unbiased.thebanik said:
Maybe you are getting the feeling coz we refused to regulate the prices. Our stance is similar both towards member sale and dealer sale. If the price is good then you would buy it, otherwise not. If we do not allow vigilantes then its the same for both.
Earlier the market section was open for interference. The members protested and we had to bring in a system where no one could ruin each others sale. Now again the members want to go back to the previous system.
Another reason could be becoz of the bill fiasco. For that we are already looking to make bill mandatory. Either manufacturer or distributor or dealer.
Is there any other reason why you would get such a feeling?
Shripad
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thebanik said:
favor? what favor?
TE is offering them a platform.
Same rules applies to Market section. We do not allow thread crapping there also and seller has the right to decide his price. The only intervention is when someone really goofs up with pricing in market due to lack of knowledge.
I have said this before also. Seller has the right to determine his price. If we do not interfere in your pricing and threads, we will not for the dealer section as well.
Did anyone tell you to reduce the price of your E8400 because i was selling it for 7.5k just 2 weeks ago? No. And if someone had, we would have deleted that as well. Same logic. Dealers do have right to decide their prices and yes, they are given a section and a platform in exchange of a FEE.
If a particular dealer is found to be using cheap tactics to make buyers buy from his personal site than through TE GOs, we might have something to think about.......
some dealers do ask you to register and make the order from their own site. That means register, (in their site) place order from their site and all that.. is that allowed?Funky said:
imo thats a total waste of time.. atleast for me I would see it as a waste of time.
Sandy said:
I guess Phoenix demands registration IIRC.. [I'd to buy a P.D from him. Eventually mano having told me Ravin has an unused one, I took it from him instead.] :huh:
That was indeed a waste of time. :no:
Shud be something like how KMD does. PM'ing him the link of the product n he'd get back in an instant.
No offense to u phoenix.
whatsinaname
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Though I do not see any undue favor, I actually would not mind dealers being encouraged on TechEnclave. The way I see it, they are on an online forum, they talk regularly to people and most importantly are knowledgeable about products and are ready and willing to source more "exotic" products.
If I go to a dealer on TE, I can ask if they know the prices of XFX 8600GT and the XFX 8600GT XXX edition and I will get a sane reply. Not a reply that says 'what are you talking about?'.
The dealers are in their own section, and because they are recognised, there is a lot less spam in other threads like 'Call me at this number. I can help you.'
And most importantly, it will be very easy to trace the previous buyers and get good feedback. Overall, I think it is a very well maintained system.
If I go to a dealer on TE, I can ask if they know the prices of XFX 8600GT and the XFX 8600GT XXX edition and I will get a sane reply. Not a reply that says 'what are you talking about?'.
The dealers are in their own section, and because they are recognised, there is a lot less spam in other threads like 'Call me at this number. I can help you.'
And most importantly, it will be very easy to trace the previous buyers and get good feedback. Overall, I think it is a very well maintained system.
Shripad
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gannu said:I guess Phoenix demands registration IIRC.. [I'd to buy a P.D from him. Eventually mano having told me Ravin has an unused one, I took it from him instead.] :huh:
That was indeed a waste of time. :no:
Shud be something like how KMD does. PM'ing him the link of the product n he'd get back in an instant.
No offense to u phoenix.
XG does not even have the full range that Phoenix is having in his GOs. And his prices offered here are usually lower than his site prices. Ao i am not so sure.
And by cheap tricks, i mean post higher prices here. and then ask users to buy from his site instead for cheap prices. Thats dirty trick.
Well my range is not there , as i had thought of an upgrade, which as of now isnt happening for a bit.
plus with the overwhelming response of the guys on TE , i have barely the time manage both , + xams and all
I know registering is a waste of time , but i get the contact details and all stored , so in case i need to contact u , i can do that. i can understand its a bit of waste, but it doesnt take more than 2 mins, does it ? If it does, do let me know, will surely make it simpler
I know i can have the addresses stored in the PM box, but i find it more reliable to be on my website , as i DELETE PMs too u know :bleh:
plus with the overwhelming response of the guys on TE , i have barely the time manage both , + xams and all I know registering is a waste of time , but i get the contact details and all stored , so in case i need to contact u , i can do that. i can understand its a bit of waste, but it doesnt take more than 2 mins, does it ? If it does, do let me know, will surely make it simpler
I know i can have the addresses stored in the PM box, but i find it more reliable to be on my website , as i DELETE PMs too u know :bleh:
Hi ,
Before Commenting I Read The entire thread From Page One To the current Page 9 .I Would Like To Comments On Few things cos They Were directed Towards Me
1 :There Are Words Used For Me By Few Respected People .Bro's Let Me Deal For a Month In TE I will Reply then ,cos the Time I started Dealing In Other Forums I Was New to forums Lingo,Style etc etc .Even on Other Forums They Have started Like Me Services ,Prices and I Also Have a Fan Following As customers .I Will Make sure The Same Thing Follow in TE .
2 :As Far As they Issue Of Sending People To My Website and then Making Them checkout From There ,Yup I will Follow this Policy cos its Extremely Hard to cordinate Two Things "a Live Internet Store" And "a parallel Running Store" .By the end of the Day I Cannot Remember what a Perticular person has purchased,did He Pay ,Have i Received The Payment ,Did I Ship Out ,what is The Delivery status ,Is This a RMA Case .So all These things Are Maintained By My Website .
3 :Why Do i Have The Same Rates On The Website And the Deals Here .simple How Will The Person Checkout If The Rates Are Different .Once i Make My Deals Here i Make sure The Rates Are In sync On the Website With The Deals threads .Also In This We Are Actually Hampering The Website Business of Our company cos people who do not know about TE can bump into the website from google or something and chekout at the same rates We are giving the community here .
Before Commenting I Read The entire thread From Page One To the current Page 9 .I Would Like To Comments On Few things cos They Were directed Towards Me
1 :There Are Words Used For Me By Few Respected People .Bro's Let Me Deal For a Month In TE I will Reply then ,cos the Time I started Dealing In Other Forums I Was New to forums Lingo,Style etc etc .Even on Other Forums They Have started Like Me Services ,Prices and I Also Have a Fan Following As customers .I Will Make sure The Same Thing Follow in TE .
2 :As Far As they Issue Of Sending People To My Website and then Making Them checkout From There ,Yup I will Follow this Policy cos its Extremely Hard to cordinate Two Things "a Live Internet Store" And "a parallel Running Store" .By the end of the Day I Cannot Remember what a Perticular person has purchased,did He Pay ,Have i Received The Payment ,Did I Ship Out ,what is The Delivery status ,Is This a RMA Case .So all These things Are Maintained By My Website .
3 :Why Do i Have The Same Rates On The Website And the Deals Here .simple How Will The Person Checkout If The Rates Are Different .Once i Make My Deals Here i Make sure The Rates Are In sync On the Website With The Deals threads .Also In This We Are Actually Hampering The Website Business of Our company cos people who do not know about TE can bump into the website from google or something and chekout at the same rates We are giving the community here .
katmandude said:
+1 on this. I agree that if you are a registered dealer you are free to run your deals but this does not mean that you make TE an extension of your online store website.
For Mr X who already has a store and just wants to get more buyers, he makes a "GO" and gets lots of buyers, 1500 bucks per month is no big deal. The main downside to this is that the deals section becomes so cluttered that its almost impossible to browse. If the person already has a store and already sells HDDs, Motherboards, graphic cards, cpus, RAM sticks, he creates a "GO" for each and every product there is!:bshit:
Secondly, we see multiple GO's for same products with just a difference of 50-100 bucks in both. :no:
Lastly, this is a tech forum. Even though I may not be visiting and posting as much as other members such as Bikey
, I do visit often and would love the site to be as it was and is till now. I don't want this site to be mainly a shopping site with a few threads regarding technology. 
Mods have to take some decision regarding this as this seriously undermines all the efforts taken over the years by you guys to keep the site absolutely running fabulously.
Question .Sei said:+1 on this. I agree that if you are a registered dealer you are free to run your deals but this does not mean that you make TE an extension of your online store website.
For Mr X who already has a store and just wants to get more buyers, he makes a "GO" and gets lots of buyers, 1500 bucks per month is no big deal. The main downside to this is that the deals section becomes so cluttered that its almost impossible to browse. If the person already has a store and already sells HDDs, Motherboards, graphic cards, cpus, RAM sticks, he creates a "GO" for each and every product there is!:bshit:
Secondly, we see multiple GO's for same products with just a difference of 50-100 bucks in both. :no:
Lastly, this is a tech forum. Even though I may not be visiting and posting as much as other members such as Bikey
Mods have to take some decision regarding this as this seriously undermines all the efforts taken over the years by you guys to keep the site absolutely running fabulously.
Imagine you Are In chandigarh and I Am Dealer From Here My PRoduct Is 100 Rs More Expensive In TE then KMD for Example .Then Do you think My Area People Will Buy From KMD ,think Again and comment On This ...........Trading is Area Specific
Dear Amarbir Sir, I'm not pointing fingers on anyone. You joined just for selling things here and I did not. Hence your reaction.
I'm simply saying that TE is not E-Bay. Even Rahul (theitwares.com) and Phoenix have online stores but they don't treat TE as an extension to their online stores. They have GOs from time to time but they are very specific. Not for almost everything they are selling.
When I joined in 2006(I'd been browsing since a few months earlier), there were very few GOs and GOs in the true sense of the word. Older members know what I mean.
PS: And if people in your "area" want to pick up stuff, can't they do from your shop directly?
I think what bikey tried to say is the group orders need to be TE exclusive. Which is why having a website running parallel to TE and projecting the same rates/ same orders deviates from the essence of having a group order.
Secondly, as Sei rightly pointed out, GO:'s should be product/brand specific. You just cannot throw the kitchen sink in the GO.
What should not happen here is dealers using the TE service for 1 month, spamming their websites to the core and then opting out the service.
Secondly, as Sei rightly pointed out, GO:'s should be product/brand specific. You just cannot throw the kitchen sink in the GO.
What should not happen here is dealers using the TE service for 1 month, spamming their websites to the core and then opting out the service.
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