Yeah I agree. Reddit is dead for me. FB Marketplace is only good for F2F deals, and even then most of the times the seller posts something and has something else for sale / posts incomplete information.
Olx is just filled with junk and scammers.
Market Feedback Should there be a limitation on bumps?
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Olx is just filled with junk and scammers.
enc0dex264
Galvanizer
Facebook is just gareeb resellers trying to make pennies by reselling something they dont even have in-hand. The whole idea of deal via admin gives all the power to the buyer.. and buyers are usually the same as resellers, there words mean nothing.
buzz88
Galvanizer
OT, but it is generally known and accepted that the Milky Way is not the centre of the universe according to the Big Bang theory. Those poor guys are not as clueless as we believe them to be. And since I am on this pale blue dot, which is only a spec in this vast but probably a very ordinary galaxy, with the lot of you, suffice to say that none of us are the Centre.
Just observing for now.
I see people easily closing deals without bumps.
I see people bumping for months without luck.
I have even moved some threads to Exclusive Classifieds to improve visibility, to no effect.
Stickies which are the first posts on the 1st page get overlooked.
It's simply a shortage of interested buyers, and not the bumps. I've seen new members sign up and post in year old threads. Be patient, if someone is looking for your thread, they will find it.
Repetitive posts like bump are spammy and not healthy for any site in the long term. That's why I can't see other sites allowing this.
Please don't try creative ways to push threads up. Most people were forced to bump, because others had bumped them out, and it became a bump battle.
Now without the bumping, each thread stays visible on the 1st page for longer.
Also, to clarify this has nothing to do with activity in the tech sections.
Simply requesting to keep the Market section clean.
That's only if we are looking for specific items.
If you want something specific, like say Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini, easy to find here.
What if I want 'a case that supports ATX motherboards and many fans', I will not be sure if someone is selling case in a separate thread or a part of full PC and ok with parting out, I WILL have to look through the threads. I definitely can't use the search functionality because I don't know if sellers have listed all data like the search terms I am putting in.
If I don't see it in the first few pages, I am generally giving up and looking at other places.
Not exactly. I have had many buyers who have told me to let them know if I have anything else (like a HDD buyer wanting another HDD) up for sale. I generally post a sale thread, wait for a few days and if no one is interested, I start messaging those previous buyers. I have had multiple people tell me that they actually were looking for one, but didn't notice my HDD being up for sale, sometimes because they checked TE few hours or a day after my sale post (I post when I have time, not when it is more likely to be seen by perspective buyers).
I understand your side, that you don't want moderating become more difficult for you and other mods. But this rule, is like 'one size fits all' when it clearly isn't.
Since you can't programmatically inforce the rule 'no bumps but only informative updates allowed' anyway, I would suggest considering 'one bump per person across all sale threads' rule. Alert members will report when they see violations of either rules. We can also ask the members to combine sale threads whenever possible, especially when listing multiple items at once.
Filters > Prefix > Select Cabinets
The same can be argued for the other side, right? If everyone is trying to send their thread to the top, then no one's thread will actually be on top for long. It's a wheel going round and round.
Alternate approach: can the marketplace threads be excluded from showing up in What's New? That way sellers can go bananas with their 1 bump a day (total, not per thread), and actual content won't be buried in spam bumps.
Hey, I remember you! You're the one who ghosted me after responding to your WTB thread. Then a few months later you saw me mention that same old gen system and you initiated a fresh convo unsolicited, asking if I would be interested in selling it, forgetting we've already had this talk.
Also why is your profile locked? Not able to view feedback for your previous transactions. Or don't you want people to know the sheer no. of WTBs you have or how many items you've already bought from here? It would almost seem like you are buying stuff from here just to resell them elsewhere.
So yeah, daily bump bad.
That does not work if the seller has not used the specific prefix. Eg. for threads with multiple items or if selling an entire desktop.
A better option would have been to allow search for tags (assuming the seller used it correctly) for specific sections like the Marketplace. Unfortunately its now for the entire forum but still it is one option.
Dude, i checked your old PM. You had told me that you wanted a local buyer so i saw no point in replying further. its not actually ghosting you ! and yeah, i did forget about our previous conv. that's exactly why i messaged you again. Plus, its my wish to hide my profile. You don't like it ? Move on.
Reselling or using myself, you can think whatever you like
Good luck.I cannot speak for everyone but almost all my purchases here are something that I had to purchase in the back of my mind and I happen to see the thread by a bumb. I never actively searched for anything here. So I would be affected by banning the bumps.
kartikoli
Innovator
You are not alone, only thing that make sense to me is limiting active threads in classified.
For Sale - 2 active threads
WTB - 2 Active threads
Current limit of 24h for a bump is fine, Killing the bump is killing the section all along.
When Erodov died TE gained all members but if things continue in this manner we may see revival of dead Market section of Digit
buzz88
Galvanizer
Thank you for this clarification. I share the same reservations about this change that many members above have mentioned.
Most of my purchases on this forum were things that I had never planned to buy in the first place. I never searched for them.
It was just a spur of the moment decision after looking at some random thread.
I assume many of the sales I made might also be bought by people who got curious about the product listed.
This change only helps the people who are actively into buying or selling and have a clear goal in mind.
Still, I understand that spamming the forum is not a solution and not healthy for the site. I just wish instead of a blanket bans on all bumps by all users, we could have done something to limit the worst offenders and putting in fair limits for everyone as suggested by other members above.
Plus, its my wish to hide my profile. You don't like it ? Move on.
Reselling or using myself, you can think whatever you like
If you take a closer look at the marketplace place, it will be clear that you, sir, are the one in need of good luck since you are not following forum rules
And here's this guy's (public) feedback profile for anyone that wishes to see just how many old systems he's bought here - too many for personal use for sure. But there's no need to hide his history, or even claim "breach of privacy" when his intention was revealed to other curious people here. Unless he's buying products well maintained by tech-savvy users and selling them outside for a profit.
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Either way, isn't the seller responsible for providing proper metadata for the thread to be visible to interested parties? Even Google knows targetted ads are way more effective than spamming everyone with every ad. Seems sellers are lazy and opt for th easier option of bumping.
Agree with the case of multiple items though.
I have followed all the rules. The bumping rule is a NEW one so you can speak whatever you want dude. None of it would make a difference. I will buy a 1000000 more things for PERSONAL USE so to hell with your assumptions/accusations/jealousyIf you take a closer look at the marketplace place, it will be clear that you, sir, are the one in need of good luck since you are not following forum rules
And here's this guy's (public) feedback profile for anyone that wishes to see just how many old systems he's bought here - too many for personal use for sure. But there's no need to hide his history, or even claim "breach of privacy" when his intention was revealed to other curious people here. Unless he's buying products well maintained by tech-savvy users and selling them outside for a profit.
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Either way, isn't the seller responsible for providing proper metadata for the thread to be visible to interested parties? Even Google knows targetted ads are way more effective than spamming everyone with every ad. Seems sellers are lazy and opt for th easier option of bumping.
Agree with the case of multiple items though.
You and the other so called curious people here should be really minding their own business. Good luck.EDIT - I am sure now you would also be having problems with other members here having 100+ feedbacks
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A marketplace cannot operate fairly without allowing members to bump their threads. To reduce bump battles we can do multiple things such as,
- Bumps should be allowed once 48 hours or 24 hours. The original issue was a single person bumping multiple threads.
- Bromance posts such as "free bump" "plus one" "best guy" should be strictly not allowed.
- Only one bump per user per thread per day.
- Make a change in forum policies from "staff will keep posts in marketplace at their own discretion" to "all off topic, bromance, sarcastic and price policing posts will be removed without exception and warning will be issued". Non sales related posts are also free bumps which encourage others to 'Bump' even more often. Only price check with a valid link should be allowed. Posts such as "I have seen this product for 10k less on olx bro" or "xyz site was selling this one for xyz bro" should not be allowed. If there is any issue in the thread then use 'report' button. Only fraud or not following forum rules should be called out openly in the thread.
Once I saw an endless discussion about the pricing of an iphone in a sales thread. The guys in the ethics and morals committee should hold their horses.
- Condense all rules of marketplace in one sticky thread. Right now there are 6 threads talking precious space. We, members can write all rules in one thread and mods can edit it later as needed.
-Another creative way to lure members into making meaningful posts on the forum is to make a new rule that every sales post must have a product review/ ownership experience about the item in at least 200-300 words. The review won't be needed for small items below a certain price point or give away. The seller will post a link to that review in his sales thread and all product related discussion, questions etc will happen in that review thread. No price discussion though. We can remove this rule for patrons/resellers. Eventually mods can start moving similar reviews to a single thread. For example, all iPhone 14 reviews/ownership experiences can be moved to a single iPhone 14 review thread.
A Bump is like an advertisement for the thread and ads lead to sales. For example, last month I bought a phone but I wasn't planning to buy it. I would have never searched for that phone. It was an impulse purchase which I absolutely loved. That phone thread has a long discussion which is technically a bump so isn't it unfair to other sellers because some threads have long discussions and others don't ? If we ban bump then other sellers will be at disadvantage unless every off topic post is strictly not allowed.
Even if all unnecessary posts are totally banned in the classifieds section still both buyers and sellers will be at disadvantage without bumps. I almost never search for an item and I buy something if I see it at a good price. Visibility leads to sale.
- Bumps should be allowed once 48 hours or 24 hours. The original issue was a single person bumping multiple threads.
- Bromance posts such as "free bump" "plus one" "best guy" should be strictly not allowed.
- Only one bump per user per thread per day.
- Make a change in forum policies from "staff will keep posts in marketplace at their own discretion" to "all off topic, bromance, sarcastic and price policing posts will be removed without exception and warning will be issued". Non sales related posts are also free bumps which encourage others to 'Bump' even more often. Only price check with a valid link should be allowed. Posts such as "I have seen this product for 10k less on olx bro" or "xyz site was selling this one for xyz bro" should not be allowed. If there is any issue in the thread then use 'report' button. Only fraud or not following forum rules should be called out openly in the thread.
Once I saw an endless discussion about the pricing of an iphone in a sales thread. The guys in the ethics and morals committee should hold their horses.
- Condense all rules of marketplace in one sticky thread. Right now there are 6 threads talking precious space. We, members can write all rules in one thread and mods can edit it later as needed.
-Another creative way to lure members into making meaningful posts on the forum is to make a new rule that every sales post must have a product review/ ownership experience about the item in at least 200-300 words. The review won't be needed for small items below a certain price point or give away. The seller will post a link to that review in his sales thread and all product related discussion, questions etc will happen in that review thread. No price discussion though. We can remove this rule for patrons/resellers. Eventually mods can start moving similar reviews to a single thread. For example, all iPhone 14 reviews/ownership experiences can be moved to a single iPhone 14 review thread.
A Bump is like an advertisement for the thread and ads lead to sales. For example, last month I bought a phone but I wasn't planning to buy it. I would have never searched for that phone. It was an impulse purchase which I absolutely loved. That phone thread has a long discussion which is technically a bump so isn't it unfair to other sellers because some threads have long discussions and others don't ? If we ban bump then other sellers will be at disadvantage unless every off topic post is strictly not allowed.
Even if all unnecessary posts are totally banned in the classifieds section still both buyers and sellers will be at disadvantage without bumps. I almost never search for an item and I buy something if I see it at a good price. Visibility leads to sale.
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