Slumdog Millionaire: Simply wow!

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I'm already creating this thread even though the movie is yet to release in India. I'm not going to talk about the story though, because it is simply not possible.

This is one movie which I truly feel from the bottom of my heart should have been made by an Indian director. That would have been a benchmark for all the directors who are hell bent on feeding us the same crap like Chandni Chowk, Rab Ne and Singh is King.

I started watching this movie with the general feeling of doubt one has when the movie has been appreciated too much. But, this is one movie I wish I had seen in the theatre when it releases on 23rd Jan.

There is absolutely no loophole that I could think of. Everything is so beautifully interwoven in the script, the actors are fantastic, A.R Rehman proves once again he's a genius and the editing is beyond excellence.

This is one of those movies which leaves an impact on you. The names Crash, Dark Knight come to the mind.

I would not be surprised if this manages to grab one or more Oscars too..

Anyone else seen the ahem version already? What do you guys think?

PS: Please don't post the story or any part of it. :)
 
This movie will go on to become a legend in the future much like "The Pulp Fiction". It would be interesting to see the box office response of this movie in India. Raaz will give it a tough competition.

If there is any complaint I have from this movie, it is the excessive use of swear words. They just feel out of place in an otherwise beautiful movie.
 
Apparently the directory Danny Boyle likes to do toilet scenes and the one from his other movie Trainspotting is ugly, not like the tame one in SDM:

(warning: F-bombs galore)

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My complaint to movie is spreading bad dirty image of Indians all over world with scenes like jumping into shiit hole.I have never seen such worst scene and dirty atmosphere in movies.Further Amitab gave autograph to kid covered with live shiit all over,what the hell was that.In simple words as usual worst image of Indians all over world.
 
guys dont hype about the movie :P i have seen the movie and the first half is simply awesome the child artist's totally steal the show,but the second half becomes a bit boring and predictable i will give it a decent 7/10 dont get your expectations really high
 
Yamaraj said:
I have to watch the movie, but I'm told its basic plot shares a lot with the critically acclaimed City of God

Its not even remotely connected to "City of God".

@Virus : Screw what the world thinks of us. How does it matter to you anyways?
 
This film has all the makings to tank in India. The Golden Globe wins though have added to the hype and might bring people into the theatres. Let's face it Indians don't like to be shown that they still live in a shitty country and abject poverty. And us people take offence very easily to that fact(holds true for almost any nation and their beliefs/rationales regarding themselves)
 
I found the movie to be pretty average. The music works well in the movie but the soundtrack separately is pretty boring compared to Rehman's other efforts.
 
ubergeek said:
guys dont hype about the movie :P i have seen the movie and the first half is simply awesome the child artist's totally steal the show,but the second half becomes a bit boring and predictable i will give it a decent 7/10 dont get your expectations really high

Totaly agree with you, the kids were gr8....latter half was kinda typical bollywood....and i simply hated the accents, ruined it for me really ...movie shouldve been in hindi... but i guess the americans relate to the accent it being an "american movie" n all
 
Its just mediocre stuff, seriously overhyped, and i strongly feel that if the same movie was made by an indian director and not danny boyle it would have been a dud.
 
On the Soundtrack..

The song 'Aaj Ki Raat', sounds very "inspired" by the Giorgio Moroder produced Donna Summers' track "I feel love".. which would be called by some as the dawn of the era of synthesizer/ electronic music.

'Jai Ho" (the intro from 0:07 to 0:14 which is used as the repeated refrain) sounds just like an Abba song (a famous one, sorry, but i forgot the name)

'Liquid Dance'
from 1:00 to 1:10 and 1:25 to 1:43 seem to be copied from another famous piece of classical music (again, i cant recollect, sorry!)

'Millionaire'
the repeated theme of this song sounds to me like the outro of an 80s hit song by Real Life (an australian band) called "Send me an angel"

'O Saya'
The repeated vocoderized chant for the first minute or 2 of the song seems sampled from another hit song (again, forgot name)
 
Slumdog Millionaire–the Review at Random Thoughts of a Demented Mind

Slumdog Millionaire–the Review

Published December 29th, 2008 in Reviews.

Here is the short of it.

I did not like “Slumdog Millionaire”. Or perhaps I should say I was not at all impressed. Maybe it was all the hype, the Oscar buzz and the “It is soooo awesome” first-person accounts I have heard over the last few weeks that led me to go into the theater with unrealistic expectations. Perhaps.

First let us get the standard attacks on reviews one does not like out of the way.

Yes yes I am being contrarian to get attention.

Yes yes I am too idiotic to understand a truly great movie.

Yes yes I suffer from a third-world siege mentality where I am offended by anything that does not show my country in a purely positive light.

If we can now move beyond these, then let us proceed.

And yes. If you have not seen the movie, then perhaps you are better off not going below the fold (though I try my best not to give away the ending) if you want to “experience” without any pre-knowledge this supposed masterpiece.

There is a difference between clever film-making and great film-making. Make no mistake, Danny Boyle is immensely clever. “Slumdog Millionaire” is made as an out-and-out “crowd-pleaser” through proper audience-targetting which is done in the same careful way the Chopras target the lovey-dovey high school/college crowd and the Anil Sharmas target the uber-patriots.

This crowd-pleasing is done through punching together as many stereotypes that Westerners have about India as is humanly possible. People live in garbage heaps. A character jumps into a huge heap of human excreta and without batting an eyelid comes running out covered in brown slime, as if its the most natural thing in India, to get an autograph of a star. The hero, a Muslim, sees his family slaughtered by Hindu rioters and sees along with it a rioting kid (presumably) dressed as Lord Rama, in blue paint and with a bow and arrow in hand, standing as a sentinel of doom, an image whose indelibility in the character’s mind becomes a principal plot point.

A character is booked on the flimsiest of charges and then he is beaten black and blue in a police station and given volts of electricity.

What else? Let’s see.

Child prostitution. Check.

Forced begging. Check.

Blindings of innocent children. Check.

Rape. Check.

Human filth. Bahoot hain sahab.

Call centers. Oh yes most certainly.

Destiny. Of course.

But wait. Do Hindu saffron-clothed Ram Senas not run havoc through Muslim slums? Do street kids not get taken in by beggar gangs and maimed? Doesnt rape happen in India? Are those slums specially constructed sets? Why do you, third world denizen, get so defensive about your own country? Chill.

Well yes these things do happen in India. However the problem is when you show every hellish thing possible all happening to the same person. Then it stretches reason and believability and just looks like you are packing in every negative thing that Westerners perceive about India for the sake of “crowd pleasing”. Because audiences and jury members “feel good” when their pre-conceived notions are confirmed. On the flip side, nothing disquiets a viewer as much as when his/her prejudices are challenged. So Boyle does the safe thing.

Let’s say I made a movie about the US where an African-American boy born in the hood, has his mother sell him to a pedophile pop icon, after which he gets molested by a priest from his church, following which he gets tied up to the back of a truck and dragged on the road by KKK clansmen. Then he is arrested and sodomized by a policeman with a rod, after which he is attacked by a gang of illegal immigrants, and then uses these life experiences to win “Beauty and Geek”.

Even though each of these incidents have actually happened in the United States of America, I would be accused of spinning a fantastic yarn that has no grounding in reality, that has no connection to the “American experience” and my motivations would be questioned, no matter how cinematically spectacular I made my movie. At the very least, I wouldn’t be on 94% on Tomatometer and a strong Oscar favorite.

But then you say—Boyle is constructing a fairytale, a dash of Indian exotica, a love story. Surely he can take liberties. Make the darkness darker in order to brighten the halo around the hero and heroine.

Ok I get it. That’s why the first shot of Taj Mahal is through filth, when any other shot would have done. That’s why the host of Millionaire is shown heartlessly mocking the fact that the contestant is a humble “chaiwala” as the audience laughs with him in a way that reminded me of Amrish Puri, rolling his eyes and saying “Tu to gandhi naali ka keeddaaaa hainnnn”. Even though this kind of class-based running down will never ever happen on “Millionaire” if for nothing else than political correctness , lets accept it happens just to heighten the drama.

Which brings us to the main weakness of “Slumdog Millionaire”. There are way too many things you have to “accept” in order to enjoy this supposed “glorious celebration of exotica” , too many plot contrivances, too many loopholes you can drive a truck through that you have to turn a blind eye too.

Suspension of disbelief is one thing, after all movies are not logic proofs. But “Slumdog” sometimes gets so focused on the “scents” (excreta) and “sounds” (pain) of India that it does not bother to even try to make some of the fantastic coincidences look even moderately plausible.

But then again, as you said, it is a fairytale. Which means it has infinite license for taking liberties.

The thing is that the same people who are going ga-ga over “Slumdog” saying “Areee yaar, dont over-analyze. Dont see it from a realist perspective. Just enjoy the ride” will go and say “What! She cannot recognize Shahrukh Khan just because he doesn’t have his moustache” and ” Wait. Rahul Roy sings Jaane Jigar Jaane Man and just finds Anu Agarwal in the city of Mumbai by doing that ” and “Gimme a break. Sunny Deol can decimate a full Pakistani armored division with his bare hands and screams. What will these people think of next”.

The reason for that simple. Hindi movies are, by nature, downmarket and silly. English movies made by people like Boyle, even when they adopt all the conventions of the masala film, are not. Why? Because they have been validated by the “experts” as “life-affirming”, “glorious”, “celebration of the power of dreams”. So “Slumdog Millionaire” with its horribly cliched and predictable love story is a “monumental tribute to the power of love”. While Kuch Kuch Hota Hain with its equally cliched and predictable love story is “oooh sooooo bakwaas”.

Even with all the stereotypes and all the plot contrivances, I would have still enjoyed “Slumdog Millionaire” if it had managed to, at any time, transcend its “masala” origins to become something greater, as Oscar winners ought to. As the “Dark Knight” transcended its comic book origins to become a fascinating study of true evil. As “City of God” goes beyond the depiction of poverty in Brazilian slums (which is never its primary morbid fascination) to become an epic about the cycle of extreme violence.

In this respect, Slumdog is never greater than the sum of its parts. The production quality is top notch but then again even Ramgopal Verma’s turkeys are technically very accomplished. There is not much scope for acting. However Anil Kapoor, who is slowly coming close to legally becoming a werewolf with his ear ornament makes his mark everytime he unleashes his fake American accent, though you keep expecting him to say “jhakaaassss”.

If there is anything unique about Slumdog is its use of the millionaire game show device to further its plot (even though the links between the plot and the questions are tenuous and sometimes extremely artificial), which I believe is one of the primary reason why people get caught up in the movie. The same reason they get caught up in reality shows like “Who Wants to be a Millionaire” and get up and cheer when a total stranger gets a million bucks. However once one goes beyond that device, there really is nothing exceptionally unique to Slumdog, nothing that warrants all the hype and hoopla.

A big disappointment.
 
The movie is based on a novel "Q & A" by Vikas Swarup. I read the novel around 3-4 years ago.

I've seen the movie also, it's excellent, but not even close to the novel. :P
 
Bluffmaster said:
Its not even remotely connected to "City of God".

Strange! Someone who has watched both movies had a different take on the issue. I'll watch this one before pressing comments any further.
 
virus32win said:
My complaint to movie is spreading bad dirty image of Indians all over world with scenes like jumping into shiit hole.I have never seen such worst scene and dirty atmosphere in movies.Further Amitab gave autograph to kid covered with live shiit all over,what the hell was that.In simple words as usual worst image of Indians all over world.

We are led to believe that the famous actor was touched by the boy's perseverance to meet him ?
could it be Big B is peeved at how little his autograph fetched later

About the shiit, realise that the director is Scottish and also the director of Trainspotting which was the first time we saw this scene in 1996 with his own compatriots doing the diving. So no offfense is intended.

The movie is hyped for sure, but it was enjoyable and i did not feel that it put the country down in any way. It just concentrated on a demographic that isn't considered popular by Indian directors. It was quite candid & brutal at times, don't expect a chick-flick from this director :D

Whether this is Oscar material, i have my doubts, the main actor (18 yrs) and the kids were excellent however i found the others a bit amateur.

As to whether it paints the country in a poor light i think one can't form too much of an opinion based on what is shown in a movie ;)

What was very exciting to me was to have a western director portray the country. No one is going to think twice about him or trouble him as a result, if it was an Indian director that made a movie like this i think the protests would have been loud & brutal.

Seen from that perspective it would be impossible for an Indian to make a movie like this but not a foreigner :)

Having said i still hope it inspires more Indian directors to push the envelope.

ubergeek said:
guys dont hype about the movie :P i have seen the movie and the first half is simply awesome the child artist's totally steal the show,but the second half becomes a bit boring and predictable i will give it a decent 7/10 dont get your expectations really high

Agreed

Vince said:
On the Soundtrack..

The song 'Aaj Ki Raat', sounds very "inspired" by the Giorgio Moroder produced Donna Summers' track "I feel love".. which would be called by some as the dawn of the era of synthesizer/ electronic music.
Kraftwerk were the first.
 
^^ Danny Boyle also made A Life Less Ordinary starring Cameron Diaz which was a total chick flick.

The thing is that the same people who are going ga-ga over “Slumdog” saying “Areee yaar, dont over-analyze. Dont see it from a realist perspective. Just enjoy the ride” will go

and say “What! She cannot recognize Shahrukh Khan just because he doesn’t have his moustache” and ” Wait. Rahul Roy sings Jaane Jigar Jaane Man and just finds Anu Agarwal in the city of Mumbai by doing that ” and “Gimme a break. Sunny Deol can decimate a full Pakistani armored division with his bare hands and screams. What will these people think of next”.

Exactly. Can't agree more with the article x86 posted.
 
virus32win said:
My complaint to movie is spreading bad dirty image of Indians all over world with scenes like jumping into shiit hole.I have never seen such worst scene and dirty atmosphere in movies.Further Amitab gave autograph to kid covered with live shiit all over,what the hell was that.In simple words as usual worst image of Indians all over world.

I won't say that the sight didn't follow a gag reflex, but what they were trying to depict still holds. The people there are completely besotted by celebrities. It was a just way of showing. But yes, it was quite disgusting.

And what the heck do you mean by spreading the bad image? Are you happy living in denial of the real conditions in India? Not saying that you have to be proud of it, but atleast they were showing the reality unlike Karan Johar and the Yash Raj who love to show that every Indian is wealthy and frequently goes abroad. :@

Darthcoder said:
Seriously dont understand what all the hype regarding this film is about :|.

No offense dude, but you seem to decide whether a movie is good based on the hype. You just love the feeling of slamming down every movie that has been praised by everyone. I still remember your posts in the Iron Man thread :|

saumik_ said:
Totaly agree with you, the kids were gr8....latter half was kinda typical bollywood....and i simply hated the accents, ruined it for me really ...movie shouldve been in hindi... but i guess the americans relate to the accent it being an "american movie" n all

I think when it will be released in India, it will be dubbed in Hindi.

x86 said:

Please don't post such biased reviews. There is atleast one critic for every movie who thinks that the said movie is the shittiest in the whole world. I remember many critics who wrote worse reviews for Dark Knight too. Sure the movie was cliched in some parts, but the tight editing made up for that and the movie managed to maintain a fast pace throughout.
 
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