Something dissapointing on reddit about Indian Navy Warships

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The description he gave about INS Delhi is perfectly true.. But If this guy would have went on board INS Mumbai or INS Viraat or even in submarines like INS Shalki, INS Shishumaar or INS Shankul then the interview would have been a lot better than this. And as he has said, the food on Indian Navy ships is damn good. Actually they wont serve you (common man) food even if you are on a big post in your firm, rather they will have their food and if anything is left then they offer you food. But this happens only in the case of Males, the rules change for Females.. Every person in Indian navy right from workers to topmost officials will salute if any lady is entering a Ship/Submarine, would serve food first to that lady/girl without even allowing her colleagues to touch the food..... I dont know why ... :S
 
chiragsthakur said:
Every person in Indian navy right from workers to topmost officials will salute if any lady is entering a Ship/Submarine, would serve food first to that lady/girl without even allowing her colleagues to touch the food..... I dont know why ... :S
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Perhaps a tradition followed by the Navy. Women were originally considered to be bringing bad fortune to the ship and her crew. In fact some of the Merchant ships do not still permit ladies to enter onboard the vessel. :P
 
Yes, in case of Indian Navy, women bring a good fortune :) Actually the tradition goes like this, in UK queen used to touch the ship while its launching. When she touched the ship, the ship used to get rolling on the water ( actually the rollers are actuated on which the ship rests in the dry dock, so the ship gets rolling and making it way to water for the first time). Her touch was just considered a lucky charm. Same thing used to be followed in India when the British were ruling India. And so even after so many years the tradition is still followed at the time of launching each and every naval ship from dry dock to sea.

Gannu said:
Perhaps a tradition followed by the Navy. Women were originally considered to be bringing bad fortune to the ship and her crew. In fact some of the Merchant ships do not still permit ladies to enter onboard the vessel. :P
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asingh said:
How to see the main article..I just see comments.
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ajayr said:
Please, can someone tell me how to see the main article? Or post the link directly here? This is so frustrating.
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This is an AMA guys. No article. Basically, a person comes an tells people who he is, what he has done and people can ask him questions about his experience, life etc. Just Q&A. Very interesting sub-reddit though. I've seen some very interesting AMAs.

This one was also very interesting. I have a friend of mine on a ship off Mumbai. Next time he calls me up, I'll have a LOT of things to talk to him about :P
 
Do you think the Indian navy will take any of this advice to heart? DO they actually want to improve? Or will they just brush it off or even be offended that you are insulting their capabilities?

The latter. They pretty much wrote off every piece of advice that I humbly gave them in my time onboard.
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End of Story.
 
chiragsthakur said:
I am working in marine business and all our orders are for building systems in Indian Navy. We have old ships in Indian Navy which are EKM class i.e those procured from Russia. The technology was good at that time but isnt on PAR compared to modern technology in any terms. We design system using modern technology to replace the Russian technology used on those ships and submarines, but according to what we experience is that, about 80% system cannot be replaced by new one, as the systems used are analogous in nature. We try to make it digital. But some systems dont respond well when digitized.Not easy to adapt and know what the designs are. So those are surely going to fail when it comes to war with some new ships.

Whereas on the other side, we have SSK class ships and submarines i.e German made. Those are the newer ones, has good improvements in design and technology compared to EKM class. It is really easy to adapt and know the design of those submarines and the systems can be replaced by latest systems too.

We also have Indian build ships e.g submarines are manufactured at Mazgaon dock in Mumbai. I dont understand which Engineers design them. They are prone to failures almost every week but the cost in making those Indian submarines is also very high. Corruption is involved in this case .

I dont think our naval ships and submarines are capable of giving a tough time to new ships and submarines which US or even Pakistan has. I hope Indian government realises this.
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SSK = conventionally powered attack submarine. The Type 209s and the 877EKMs from Russia (the Kilo class) are both SSKs. Get your nomenclature right.

Two of the 209s were manufactured at MDL, so you're contradicting yourself by saying that they are prone to failures every week at one place, and praising their systems earlier. The last 877EKM was commissioned in the Navy in 2000, making it LATER than the 209s, the last of which was commissioned in 1994. Stands to reason and common sense that the 877s have better electronics and armament, incl. the 3M54 KLUB missile, which the 209s don't.

Stop blathering and spreading misinformation.

The Pakistani navy? Don't make me laugh.. they are dependent on handouts and second-hand frigates from the US and UK, as baksheesh.

Not a match at all even for our Western Fleet, leave alone the whole Indian Navy.

Their Agosta 90B submarines are a threat, yes, (they have three of them), but there's a reason we're acquiring P8Is from the US to hunt them down.

As for the Americans, in the long term, they are our allies, and comparing our Navy to their 12CBG Navy is ridiculous.
 
guys come on ... look at our roads ... safety =? , construction sites , factories ... take any part of our country , safety and cleaniness comes at the end of our checklist, so whats new about this article to us?
 
TechHead said:
The Pakistani navy? Don't make me laugh.. they are dependent on handouts and second-hand frigates from the US and UK, as baksheesh.

Not a match at all even for our Western Fleet, leave alone the whole Indian Navy.

Their Agosta 90B submarines are a threat, yes, (they have three of them), but there's a reason we're acquiring P8Is from the US to hunt them down.

As for the Americans, in the long term, they are our allies, and comparing our Navy to their 12CBG Navy is ridiculous.
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That is my opinion. We cannot compare US Navy to Indian Navy. Their defense budget is much more than ours & we have more problems to focus then them. I think with the induction of newer vessels Indian Navy will modernize given that these projects are not delayed further. We are building ATV's to be inducted pretty soon. An Arihant class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines with SLBM's.. The future prospects are pretty good...

Arihant class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indian Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
kippu said:
guys come on ... look at our roads ... safety =? , construction sites , factories ... take any part of our country , safety and cleaniness comes at the end of our checklist, so whats new about this article to us?
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The people at construction sites I worked at find it emasculating to have to wear safety gear(that applies to me too tbh) just like most two wheeler riders prefer to ride without helmets.
 
Params7 said:
Bharat Rakshak is convinced the guy's a phony.
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Other places think so too. Basically the story mentioned has not been repeated on any other respectable american sources, why is that. Its bunk.

asingh said:
How to see the main article..I just see comments.
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Poster got deleted along with his post.
 
^^^

I dont think you are right.

Even if its not confidential, just to prove your point, you shouldn't have done that. Pls, Remove them ASAP. It gives lot of information to sinister minds.
 
Done as you said :) respect you

m-jeri said:
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I dont think you are right.

Even if its not confidential, just to prove your point, you shouldn't have done that. Pls, Remove them ASAP. It gives lot of information to sinister minds.
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HailStonE said:
That is my opinion. We cannot compare US Navy to Indian Navy. Their defense budget is much more than ours & we have more problems to focus then them.
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But, that is not what the poster was doing. He was actually more concerned about the "dont give a shit" attitude of the men on-board the ship. Some of the stuff he mentioned was cleanliness, the RO plant, open electric wires.

blr_p said:
Other places think so too. Basically the story mentioned has not been repeated on any other respectable american sources, why is that. Its bunk.
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This was an AMA, NOT an article. Why would you expect any "respectable american sources" to write a story based on an AMA by one person in one community like reddit? I dont think this AMA was verified also.
Even if this AMA was 100% true and verified by the community mods, the "respectable american sources" would not have written any story about this. They need to have much better sources than this.
 
pretttt said:
This was an AMA, NOT an article. Why would you expect any "respectable american sources" to write a story based on an AMA by one person in one community like reddit? I dont think this AMA was verified also.
Even if this AMA was 100% true and verified by the community mods, the "respectable american sources" would not have written any story about this. They need to have much better sources than this.
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So you agree its bunk ? ...or not
 
^^ maybe its also coz it might be a bit politically incorrect for an American soldier to start crapping on Indian navy who are a potential customer too.
 
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