Systematic Ban on Imports - Implications & Alternatives

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Over the past few years, the government has made it extremely difficult for consumers to directly import products for personal use -
  • They removed the gift loophole
  • Increased Import duty to some 45% - blanket for all personal imports, regardless of product. They add GST on top of this. Ends up being ~ 75%. This in particular irks me and I find it grossly unfair. An importer can import using HSN rates and consumers are left at the plight of these importers. Choice is limited by what they want to import.
  • Beginning of lockdown - Slowed/Cancelled shipments from China to the point that regular importers are still facing issues. Consumers literally had no options.
  • Now they ban Aliexpress & other Chinese B2C platforms.
I often need items that are not locally made or no one in the country stocks. A lot of it goes into R&D and does not result in any direct benefit to me. At these high shipping and customs costs, me and I'm assuming a lot of others would choose to just forgo procuring these items. This is just going to stifle innovation. India has missed the bus on AI, DroneTech, Crypto to name a few just because of these protectionist policies. I'm not even trying to get items such as cell phone or laptops. As an example, I got charged INR 1200 customs for a 3D printer Pneumatic connector that cost less than $0.20 and that was shipped to me for free.

I am happy to pay Tax. But it must be fair and equitable. After having looked at alternatives such as SnS & I2C etc. I feel none of them are truly viable. This is killing all my DIY aspirations.

What do you guys think about this situation and have you found any alternatives? Can one start a company and import under company to save tax? But how would that even work for small quantities and personal use?
 
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Change the government. Let's face it, unless that happens (sooner the better), I wouldn't hold my breath. There's unlikely to be better options unless you broker deals with some folks in IMP-EX firms etc to get what you need? Short of you flying abroad and getting things you want (and that has obvious limits too).
 
This is killing all my DIY aspirations
this describes the situation more aptly than anything else.
this got even critical for electronic ic, leds, reg. etc and loads of other things that simply no one manufactures in india. or if they not as affordable as china.

let me give you my personal ex. workout equipement as simple as jump ropes are hard to come by in indian market.. i just got some from aliexpress at start of the year. if i had known this govt will go this crazy i would have ordered two of everything..

this is just killing whatever the niche market that at least few indians offer. cause someone will pick clues and then start manufacturing here and then indians will have their products somehow. if govt is having this expectation then they are daydreaming, hard.
 
I too am in a similar situation. Most of the Aliexpress sellers have stopped shipping to India, or some if they ship, the shipping cost are many times that of the product. Aliexpress is from where I get electronic components and parts I don't get locally or at reasonable price.

But now it's very difficult to source parts I want even through Aliexpress, and so recently I tried Taobao and paid with Alipay for a particular flyback transformer costing CNY26 (Rs313.29/-) and ship it via SnS. Now SnS is asking for proper invoice with Seller's Stamp and Signature. Alipay has a feature where you can generate an e-bill, if your Alipay Account is Verified. But to verify it, you need to have a China Bank account ,seems it even works with some US Bank Account too and also proof your identity with your passport.

I gave SnS every info have that I paid CNY26 for that Flyback Transformer, I even messaged the seller via Aliwangwang but the seller too didn't send me any e-invoice I can provide SnS. If only my Alipay Account is verified :( I could have generated that e-bill.

Now I don't know how much custom fee I'd have to pay for that flyback transformer costing CNY26. It still haven't moved from Shanghai and the SnS email had this line, "Invoices which are received after 5 days from the date the shipment was received will incur a fine of 1000 INR for amendment of bill of entry."
 
Change the government. Let's face it, unless that happens (sooner the better), I wouldn't hold my breath. There's unlikely to be better options unless you broker deals with some folks in IMP-EX firms etc to get what you need? Short of you flying abroad and getting things you want (and that has obvious limits too).
I fear it may be too late by then. Once the government starts seeing even slightly higher tax collection, subsequent governments will have an extremely hard time justifying any reduction in import duties that may hurt Indian Manufacturing (or lack thereof) . It's also unlikely, they will willingly backtrack on this discrimination between citizens and the large importer lobby. If it's an expensive item or you are importing in bulk, then getting an IMPEX company involved seems to work fine and is no different from before for the most part. The problem seems to be with low value (Less than USD 500-1000) and small quantity goods. As much as I would love to take a yearly trip to shenzhen or guanghzou, a lot of the items also can't be purchased on the high street even there. Additionally, waiting a year for the latest gear would be very hard for enthusiasts and consumers alike.

this describes the situation more aptly than anything else.
this got even critical for electronic ic, leds, reg. etc and loads of other things that simply no one manufactures in india. or if they not as affordable as china.

let me give you my personal ex. workout equipement as simple as jump ropes are hard to come by in indian market.. i just got some from aliexpress at start of the year. if i had known this govt will go this crazy i would have ordered two of everything..

this is just killing whatever the niche market that at least few indians offer. cause someone will pick clues and then start manufacturing here and then indians will have their products somehow. if govt is having this expectation then they are daydreaming, hard.
Exactly. Indian manufacturing is historically only competitive at scale. It's unlikely we will get niche products made here for a long long time. I had placed a few orders on aliexpress a couple weeks before the march lockdown. 40% arrived and I only got refunded for 30% of my remaining order so ended up loosing cash for no fault of mine.


I too am in a similar situation. Most of the Aliexpress sellers have stopped shipping to India, or some if they ship, the shipping cost are many times that of the product. Aliexpress is from where I get electronic components and parts I don't get locally or at reasonable price.

But now it's very difficult to source parts I want even through Aliexpress, and so recently I tried Taobao and paid with Alipay for a particular flyback transformer costing CNY26 (Rs313.29/-) and ship it via SnS. Now SnS is asking for proper invoice with Seller's Stamp and Signature. Alipay has a feature where you can generate an e-bill, if your Alipay Account is Verified. But to verify it, you need to have a China Bank account ,seems it even works with some US Bank Account too and also proof your identity with your passport.

I gave SnS every info have that I paid CNY26 for that Flyback Transformer, I even messaged the seller via Aliwangwang but the seller too didn't send me any e-invoice I can provide SnS. If only my Alipay Account is verified :( I could have generated that e-bill.

Now I don't know how much custom fee I'd have to pay for that flyback transformer costing CNY26. It still haven't moved from Shanghai and the SnS email had this line, "Invoices which are received after 5 days from the date the shipment was received will incur a fine of 1000 INR for amendment of bill of entry."

It's upto the customs officer, and more often than not, they'll value it at many times your cost. You can share your credit card statement showing transaction which in my experience seems to satisfy them.

There are some local chinese freight forwarders I have seen on alibaba, wherein they give you a chinese address where you can ship all your taobao/tmall orders. They will repackage, re-invoice and ship to you using your preferred service at their negotiated rates. They end up costing around 5% for the service + shipping at actuals. I have done this in the past and ended up saving 25-30% on even aliexpress prices. However the problem right now seems to be there is no cheap shipping service between China and India. I wonder if things will ever change or the good days for DIY'rs in this country are over for good.
 
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What we need is a reliable guy who can club orders from you know which country, Taboa rates are much cheaper and get it via container. These days it takes atleast 25 days minimum for packages to arrive. So I can wait for 60 days

By the time india starts manufacturing we will be either old or dead.
 
I too am in a similar situation. Most of the Aliexpress sellers have stopped shipping to India, or some if they ship, the shipping cost are many times that of the product. Aliexpress is from where I get electronic components and parts
this is the kind of hell i was talking about. idn about importance of product but for small parts has to go through such lengthy, cumbersome process.
 
India is not a part of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) trade agreement. This not surprising. Since 2014, the Narendra Modi government has pursued a protectionist agenda. His administration has repeatedly increased tariffs, licence requirements and other restrictions on imports. The Atmanirbhar Bharat agenda entails import substitution. Union minister Nitin Gadkari even suggested that India “end imports" entirely. Such protectionism, however, is self-defeating.

Consider the Digital India mission. This seeks to transform India into a knowledge economy and “digitally empower" citizens. Counter-productively, the Centre has made smartphones and laptops more expensive with tariffs. In a country where 800 million people could not afford such devices even before the price hikes, how will they be digitally empowered? Similarly, Indian youth are constantly urged to acquire new skills to be competitive in the global economy. A lot of skills these days involve the use of computers, which many can’t afford, thanks to tariffs. Consequently, many good jobs would be unavailable to them.

The government wants India to be a major export hub. To this end, it has re-introduced Licence Raj-era rules to protect domestic manufacturers. In February, the government gave itself the authority to ban the import of any commodity. Additionally, importing TV sets, tyres, air-conditioners, toys and leather footwear, among other things, now requires a licence from the government. This may be extended to cover at least 350 more products.

Far from helping exports, such rules are likely to render Indian firms uncompetitive in the international market. Why would they bother improving manufacturing processes and investing in better technology if they are shielded from foreign competition? This has been observed in the past. Before 1991, the Indian economy was virtually closed off from the rest of the world. Importing goods was an arduous task, requiring licences and steep tariff payments. As a result, Indian firms couldn’t compete internationally.

Only after India’s economy was opened up in 1991 did some Indian companies become globally competitive. Consider the case of Tata Steel. Former group chairman Ratan Tata himself admitted that this company was inefficient during the Licence Raj. It did not invest in new technology or try to reduce production costs. That changed once India opened up and it was forced to compete. By 2007, Tata Steel was among the world’s lowest cost steel-makers. A similar transformation was observed across various Indian firms and industries.


Today, India seems to be repeating its past mistakes. Protectionism also punishes Indians by making goods more expensive, thus reducing people’s purchasing power. For instance, the new iPhone 12 Pro is so expensive in India that it would be cheaper to fly to Dubai, buy it there, and return. This is an extreme example, but it illustrates how much more Indians must pay for the same products than people living elsewhere.


Adding insult to injury, the government provides subsidies to export many of those products. For example, imported cars are taxed heavily in India. Yet, until recently, huge subsidies were doled out for cars exports. Export subsidies have been reduced only because the World Trade Organization ruled against them, but the government has ways to exploit loopholes for their reintroduction. One alternative method employed frequently is to devalue the rupee against other currencies. This makes imports more expensive for Indians, while making Indian products cheaper for foreigners.


Another ambition of the administration is to make India the world’s third largest economy by 2030. But the Indian economy had been sluggish even before the pandemic, thanks partly to a protectionist turn. Shielding domestic firms from competition and letting domestic costs rise is unlikely to deliver economic growth.


Protectionism does not have any strong economic justification, and so national self-sufficiency and security form the argument for it. Earlier this year, there was a clash along the border with China, which left 20 Indian soldiers dead and may even have resulted in a loss of territory. The government responded by arbitrarily holding up shipments from China at Indian ports.


“China must be taught a lesson" goes the argument. But China does not bear the brunt of these measures. India accounts for only 3% of China’s exports and less than 1% of its imports. On the other hand, China supplies many essential commodities to India: goods such as electronics, but also intermediate goods like active ingredients for pharmaceuticals, or parts and machinery used by Indian manufacturers. Thus, Indian businesses and consumers bear the brunt of any “lesson" supposedly being taught to China.


To stand up to an increasingly belligerent and expansionist Chinese regime, free trade is India’s best policy option. If Indian citizens prosper and Indian firms become more competitive, the economy will grow faster. This in turn would mean more tax revenues for the government, some of which can be invested in strengthening the armed forces.


The Modi administration’s stated goals are indisputably worthy. India should be a thriving knowledge economy. It should be a globally competitive economic powerhouse. And it should be well defended against hostile neighbours. To achieve these goals, India must abandon its protectionist folly and embrace free trade.


Jairaj Devadiga is an economist specialising in public policy and economic history. He tweets @JairajDevadiga.


 
There are some local chinese freight forwarders I have seen on alibaba, wherein they give you a chinese address where you can ship all your taobao/tmall orders. They will repackage, re-invoice and ship to you using your preferred service at their negotiated rates. They end up costing around 5% for the service + shipping at actuals. I have done this in the past and ended up saving 25-30% on even aliexpress prices. However the problem right now seems to be there is no cheap shipping service between China and India. I wonder if things will ever change or the good days for DIY'rs in this country are over for good.

can you please share some links ?
 
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