see what u have created... made a mountain of a molehill . just for a snap which i personally find absolutely perfect and he had no intention to cheat , why is this fuss all about ????virus32win said:
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Renegade said:
I never said that the 2 infractions were fair. And when did I say that it was useful for this discussion?? You assume a lot...
DO you remember the PM when I had specifically asked you to post a Sticky explaining the nature of the infractions, the possibility of bans and the acts that can lead to infractions/bans and the severity of the same. You never bothered. Had you done the needful, it would have been much wiser than handing out infractions/bans arbitrarily.
nehaladsul said:Hi,
If possible, please codify the punitive actions in a Sticky Thread somewhere. I mean, most people (including me) dunno how the warning/infraction system works.
In the absence of knowledge of the punitive system in place, offenses will continue to happen. e.g. If the statute just declares that Murder will attract punitive action and doesn't disclose the nature of punitive action, offenses of murder will increase. Not due to unclear punitive actions but due to ignorance of the people!!
If you start a thread describing something like:
1) Offenses that are let off with only warnings at first instance.
2) Offenses that are meted out bans at the first instance itself.
3) Number of warnings before an infraction is meted out in case of Offenses under No. 1.
4) The effect of infractions.
5) Number of Infractions that lead to a ban.
And so on, I am sure that people will be a bit more responsible... Just a suggestion. Take it or leave it.
Thanx...
And don't you dare tell me that I am inciting people and spreading malice in the community. I have always attempted to stop the nuisance in the thread. I remember a conversation with a Member who was pissed with the Infraction you had issued him.
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nehaladsul said:Hmmm...
Don't get pissed. Renegade is just doing his job. He gave me one infraction as well, some time back. But he is not a bad guy.
Are you a repeat offender?? Did you receive warnings/infractions earlier as well for similar offenses?? Coz I think Renegade won't take such a drastic step without forethought.
I don't know Renegade really well, but after my small stint with him, I am sure that he is not unjust. He may be a bit biased... but certainly not unjust. And who isn't a bit biased these days!!
And don't start a thread. It serves no purpose. Some stupid members on TE have a great time at our expense. The thread just becomes a hate war and people try to show you how smart they are! Plus, the thread will eventually get locked and you might end up getting an infraction again or worse, get banned.
If you sincerely want to do something, send Renegade a PM. Be Polite (he likes people who are polite) and make your point. He may/may not reverse the infraction but he'll surely be more lenient with you in future.
As Mephistopheles once told me "don't bother too much about what happens on an online forum. It is never gonna affect your personal life!!"
The Reps that you lost, I can give them back to you at any time. But think for yourself, do they really matter?? Is that one green dot worth a fight with Renegade?
I am not asking you to lie low and allow people to walk over you. I told this to Renegade as well. That I'll not allow people to walk over me. If sumone hits me, I hit back with double force.
But if a Moderator exercises punitive action against you, as a rule of law, you have no option but to accept the action of the Mods. At most, you can PM the Mod and make your point politely (as Renegade likes it) but you cannot fight (and win)... That is for sure!!
And in this case, no one has walked over you. It was a useless (well practically) post for the thread and it got deleted. As for the infraction, if you are not a repeat offender, convey the same to Renegade and he might reverse your infraction.
So, cool down. Don't start a thread. PM Renegade if required. And let go...
TE Member said:If u would loose ur hard earned reps in a matter of seconds then you wud feel bad right? thats wat i am feeling now...
BTW thanks for replying...
Thanks...
nehaladsul said:Chill bro...
I have been there and done that... I did it a bit differently though...
Neway, I'll spread some Rep and Rep u again... Ok??
Now, stop fighting with Renegade and be cool...
But I think I was wrong... And please don't ask me the name of the member. I won't tell you upon pain of death.
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I think its clear who has made the fuss, let not blame the people who created the thread for correct reasons.MohitPreet said:
That thread wasn't locked down by Renegade.The Sorcerer said:^^ Larsen n turbo guy was the one who used to brag about his knowledge and therefore he worked for larsen and turbo. Bikey as usual pointed out the facts in a witty manner that its actually larsen and Tubro.
Good times. Renegade locked that thread just because someone just didn't quite "get the joke". Anyways, I cant read this thread properly because of the extreme emotional outcry in many posts. So mods are not an exception. Lesson learnt. Give him a break. Look on the bright side, next time he wont be a machine and swing the hammer like the honky tonk man.
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After all it's always the AAM AADMI who is to be blamed.MohitPreet said:i mean he was the thread creator in the first place which led to all this
I hope they won't say ISMEIN BAHARI TAKATON KA HAATH HAI
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@ Renegade: Please refer Post #102. And this is just the beginning. And yes, I am aware that I might invariably get banned nevertheless!! :lol:
Link: http://www.techenclave.com/market-feedback/techenclave-indian-technology-community-rules-violation-190610-7.html#post1805795
Link: http://www.techenclave.com/market-feedback/techenclave-indian-technology-community-rules-violation-190610-7.html#post1805795
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Does that mean if make a thread on World Peace or Orphans, and it leads to members being banned for stupid posts, its my fault?MohitPreet said:i mean he was the thread creator in the first place which led to all this
malhotraraul
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People like to rub it in until infractionsurssriks said:
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No. It isn't your fault. Everyone has to fight his own battles.Party Monger said:Does that mean if make a thread on World Peace or Orphans, and it leads to members being banned for stupid posts, its my fault?
EDIT: @ Renegade: I am not sure you have seen Post # 102 yet. And please be fair and don't delete it. Considering that I have limited time to make my point (I am saying make not prove!), the least you can do for me is avoid deleting my post!
You never did. I said that they were fair.nehaladsul said:
Let me codify it for you. All the rules which get broken carry an infraction unless it is the first time. Any market rules that get broken carry a 5 point infraction irrespective of whether it was the first time or not.nehaladsul said:
Anyone who is ever infracted by me is free to PM me directly. I reply and explain the reason as nicely as I can. There have been some instances where I had reversed the infraction too. The only person who had not been satisfied with my infraction is m-jeri. I think we sorted that out in the long thread on "Keep TE Clean".nehaladsul said:
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Come back here on the electric chair.
PS: all that talk is good but where is the proof that members were treated unfairly.
Calling staff members a$$holes? Way to go buddy. When, who and were has one been an ass - Please I implore you, speak up. Before accusing people, have something to back up the accusation, its called decency.Party Monger said:Why dont you guys spell it out clearly?
The problem is with some new mods acting very high handed. Being A$$holes and acting haughty. Lets just be a little sensitive towards the community and work keeping in mind that these are your friends first and members later, while rules need to be followed, you dont need to be an ass and make your self seem above the community while doing it.
Before telling others that they shouldn't think of themselves higher than anybody, I think you yourself should implement this thought.
Party Monger said:
I know what you're talking about, and as you have already deemed my idea as 'stupid' - No point in it talking about it with you. Also you seem to be under the delusion that such an incident has happened multiple times, which clearly has not.
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You call it genuine, well that explains your posts and your clear bias.
virus32win said:
No he wasn't ignored at all, he reported my thread and as my thread had no violation of any kind no action was required.
virus32win said:
Mistake, where? :S
I'm being what I'm required to be sir.
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What battles? If fussing over infractions is a "battle" for you then you need to get a life man. Stop acting like a jerk and an idiot.nehaladsul said:No. It isn't your fault. Everyone has to fight his own battles.
You really are asking for a ban if you ask me. Zero substance, thoughtless rambling. Go sleep over it for sometime and then post, dont get carried away in your hormone rush.
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I really don't care whether you find it good or bad. It was just to prove that you are wrong with your hypothesis that I am spreading malice and inciting members.Renegade said:
Secondly, I could post that only coz I had a backup of my PMs. Sadly, you haven't agreed to restore the deleted thread... And in it's absence, I cannot prove anything.
You want me to prove my case after you have destroyed material evidence??
You know what, I said this before and now I say it again, Do whatever pleases you dear Mod.
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