The Trumps & Elon tweets thread (Had to make this since it's never ending)

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Trump gives Pakistan's F-16 a nearly $400 million boost; What it means for the debt ridden nation

Despite a sweeping 90-day freeze on foreign aid, US President Donald Trump has approved $397 million for Pakistan to sustain its F-16 fighter jets for counter-terrorism efforts. This move contrasts with his earlier decision to halt security assistance to Islamabad in 2018. The funds are part of...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Yes, but how do you interpret it?
95% if not more going to Boeing leaving the Paks with a piddly 50m or so. Far cry from what they used to get over a decade ago

 

[TEUser2K1]

Far cry from what they used to get over a decade ago

That is quite true, agree with this.
USA keeping Pak as a perceptual thorn by the side of India was an age old policy. Policy might be changing a lot these days.

 

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Well seems like Musk Melon is upholding free speech after all

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903277787626033303

 

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Well seems like Musk Melon is upholding free speech after all

Is it anything new though?

Congress in power, right wing scribes out of work

BJP in power, vice versa

Are either suppressing free speech?

 

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Is it anything new though?

Congress in power, right wing scribes out of work

BJP in power, vice versa

Are either suppressing free speech?

I'm referring to X and its history of censorship.

Censorship of Twitter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

X Will Comply With Brazilian Censorship Demands

After standing in defiance of the order for three weeks, X is now looking to mend its relationship in Brazil.

www.socialmediatoday.com

Elon Musk Accused Of ‘Silencing His Critics’ As X Suspends Journalists

“If you are one of those people who actually believe that Elon Musk is a principled champion of free speech, then you maybe one of the dumbest people to have ever walked the earth,” said former MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan.

www.forbes.com

https://www.reuters.com/technology/x-sues-modis-government-over-content-removal-new-india-censorship-fight-2025-03-20/

 

[bssunilreddy]

Unofficially

Yeah, who can forget his new years day speech calling them liars in 2019?

This was the day I became a Trump fan and realised along with his anti China stance that things were improving for us. And all those against him were full of it.

What trouble? We're not in the 90s anymore. What can Hamas do in PoK? Are they familiar with the terrain. No.

So the RR will dispatch Hamas faster than the Israelis

Yeah

What this proves is the enormous media bias against Trump, Musk & Vance.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Yet Trump still decisively won the popular vote and the senate. That is what counts.

Exactly. All you said about Trump I also want to say the same thing.

Trump gives Pakistan's F-16 a nearly $400 million boost; What it means for the debt ridden nation

Despite a sweeping 90-day freeze on foreign aid, US President Donald Trump has approved $397 million for Pakistan to sustain its F-16 fighter jets for counter-terrorism efforts. This move contrasts with his earlier decision to halt security assistance to Islamabad in 2018. The funds are part of...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

U.S. decision to 'allocate' funds for Pakistan's F-16 maintenance raises questions: Congress

Congress questions Modi government's diplomatic strategy amid US military aid to Pakistan, urging reassessment of foreign policy priorities.

www.thehindu.com

Don't need much to worry about these people in PoK, they will run of of interest very quickly, they have a general disdain against their asian versions, culture. climate conflict, etc. And in case any issue happens, India will first vaporize them without any consideration.

Wow man. Indeed if ISI does anything stupid with their Pig missiles India will vaporize them and then turn towards China. Then it will become 2 faction war. Russia will not join China.

That is quite true, agree with this.
USA keeping Pak as a perceptual thorn by the side of India was an age old policy. Policy might be changing a lot these days.

Policy has already changed by Trumps 1st term itself. Now in Trumps cabinet there more more Indians than before and even Musk Melons DOGE has the same kids.
One thing I can't understand is why Trump does this sending back Indians speeches sometimes and he in fact sent back some to Amritsar 1st. Is he sending a signal that he won't tolerate Khalistan supporters anymore?
In Trumps 1st term his staunch and loyalty towards his so called allies was indeed predictable.
But this term he is talking but not taking steps immediately. Why I am not able to grasp.
Trump indeed rattled the deep state or the cabal this time but was his effort sufficient to carve a new destiny for US and its allies. Maybe Putin will support him but EU might not listen to him this time. How will he control them?
China might or will listen to Putin.

 

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Indeed if ISI does anything stupid with their Pig missiles

Those weapons are only for defense. They cannot attack India with them unless we hit them first snd even then it would be risky for them

In Trumps 1st term his staunch and loyalty towards his so called allies was indeed predictable.
But this term he is talking but not taking steps immediately. Why I am not able to grasp.

What were you expecting?

Maybe Putin will support him but EU might not listen to him this time. How will he control them?

How did Victoria Nuland answer this question a decade go?

Fcuk the EU!

They can't do anything. All they can do is grandstand.

 

[bssunilreddy]

Those weapons are only for defense. They cannot attack India with them unless we hit them first snd even then it would be risky for them

What were you expecting?

How did Victoria Nuland answer this question a decade go?

Fcuk the EU!

They can't do anything. All they can do is grandstand.

Maybe a free trade agreement with India and support with our Civilian Nuclear Deal likewise.
I think so I am expecting too much from Trump.

 

[TEUser2K1]

Is he sending a signal that he won't tolerate Khalistan supporters anymore?

Not only that, he is sending a message to India that we have one of the richest diaspora there, so be prudent enough.

 

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Is it anything new though?

Congress in power, right wing scribes out of work

BJP in power, vice versa

It is true that UPA had its favourite journalists, but it is also true that the widespread media coverage of some people protesting at Jantar Mantar was responsible for ruining their image. Today it would turn in a race of who can paint the agitators as anti-nationals in the most creative ways.
Also there is no mainstream non-right TV channel left today, only in print and digital will you see something critical of the government. It was not that bad in those days and you could always find anti-Gandhi family content on news channels.

and he in fact sent back some to Amritsar 1st. Is he sending a signal that he won't tolerate Khalistan supporters anymore?

I don't think USA can land their plane wherever they want lol. It is obviously Indian government's decision to make it land in Amritsar. There is no other reason for it as the plane refueled from their military base in the Indian ocean and traveled all the way from South India to the very North.

BTW fresh news from yesterday that government is objecting to the deportees being shackled. In February the tone was that we should just shut up because they broke US law.

"The ministry has strongly registered its concerns with the U.S. authorities on the treatment meted out to deportees on the flight that landed on 5th February 2025, particularly with respect to the use of shackles, especially on women," he said.

India raises its concerns with US authorities on treatment of deportees, says Government

India expresses concerns to U.S. on treatment of deportees, particularly regarding shackles and religious accommodations, in Parliament response.

www.thehindu.com

 

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It is true that UPA had its favourite journalists, but it is also true that the widespread media coverage of some people protesting at Jantar Mantar was responsible for ruining their image.

You're thinking of only the last ten years. I was recalling Subramanyam Swami's experience when he returned to India in the late 70s from Harvard and was not welcome at any of the economics facilities here because of his right wing views.

Professor Nalapat is another example who wasn't popular after UPA1 entered office. The only place he was welcome to write for was the Organiser of the RSS. Imagine that. This is the guy who started the Geopolitics department in Manipal in the late 90s. NDA was in charge back then so things worked in his favour.

It was a much more ingrained back then given the decades long rule Congress & allies had. And the regional parties were just Congress with a local flavour and are more responsible for Congress drop in vote share than the BJP.

I find critiques of Elon Musk not supporting freedom of speech to be quite empty. He is responsible for gutting the leftwing radicals out of twitter. If that doesn't count for freedom of speech or allowing more varied viewpoints. Then what is.

 

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You're thinking of only the last ten years. I was recalling Subramanyam Swami's experience when he returned to India in the late 70s from Harvard and was not welcome at any of the economics facilities here because of his right wing views.

His economic views are not welcome in the BJP in 2025 either . But you are right, all parties lean socialist in India on economy. Academia by nature is leftist and always will be leftist in every country, it is inevitable (reasons out of scope of this thread).

 

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Academia by nature is leftist and always will be leftist in every country, it is inevitable (reasons out of scope of this thread).

Harvard isn't exactly known for right wing views. I think its got worse (further left shift) with American academia in the last twenty years. Right wing views and professors being sidelined or not given tenure. So there is no opposing force in these facilities.

They'd give JNU a good run for the money. Who's more commie? Flip a coin

 

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Harvard isn't exactly known for right wing views. I think its got worse (further left shift) with American academia in the last twenty years. Right wing views and professors being sidelined or not given tenure. So there is no opposing force in these facilities.

They'd give JNU a good run for the money. Who's more commie? Flip a coin

There are no leftists in US universities, what US considers 'radical leftists' are just young and stupid liberals throwing tantrums and being edgy. Real US leftists got stamped out during the cold war a long time ago.
Similarly there is no anti-right thing going on either, usually these people are themselves to blame and they make the excuse that it's the woke universities that are coming after them. To earn the scorn of boomer US liberals you have to do something extremely stupid.