The Trumps & Elon tweets thread (Had to make this since it's never ending)

Typical Trump getting confused. I think he might be getting too old. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-trumps-attacks-on-zelenskyy-and-ukraine-aid/a-71702392

He confused 350mn as "billion". And they were not given in cash (like almost all US aid) but as equipment, so Trump knows exactly where it went.


And I couldn't find anywhere Zelensky refusing to give proof. People are asking for audit during a war which is ridiculous.

At this point I don't think this regular lying by Trump can be excused given the nature of responsibility he has. He might simply be fishing for excuses to bash Zelensky.
Ukraine President Embezzled $400 Million From Fuel Purchase Aid: Report
US Congress appropriated $174.2 billion through the five Ukraine supplemental appropriation acts enacted FY 2022 through FY 2024, of which $163.6 billion was allocated for OAR and the Ukraine response, and $10.6 billion was allocated for other, primarily humanitarian, purposes.
Flow of U.S. Weapons to Ukraine Has Nearly Stopped and May End Completely
The Biden administration saw the $67 billion in military assistance it provided to Kyiv as essential. Trump sees any further aid as leverage.
Out of 33.9 billion in 2024, August huge tranches of money had been announced roughly every 44 days under the Biden administration. The last of them was announced on Dec. 30, 2024. After Dec. 30 Ukraine did not receive any weapons or money from US.
 
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Ukraine President Embezzled $400 Million From Fuel Purchase Aid: Report
US Congress appropriated $174.2 billion through the five Ukraine supplemental appropriation acts enacted FY 2022 through FY 2024, of which $163.6 billion was allocated for OAR and the Ukraine response, and $10.6 billion was allocated for other, primarily humanitarian, purposes.
Flow of U.S. Weapons to Ukraine Has Nearly Stopped and May End Completely
The Biden administration saw the $67 billion in military assistance it provided to Kyiv as essential. Trump sees any further aid as leverage.
Out of 33.9 billion in 2024, August huge tranches of money had been announced roughly every 44 days under the Biden administration. The last of them was announced on Dec. 30, 2024. After Dec. 30 Ukraine did not receive any weapons or money from US.
Yes you are supporting what I said, the 350bn claim was a lie.
Ukraine President Embezzled $400 Million From Fuel Purchase Aid: Report
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his entourage have embezzled at least USD 400 million, which was sent to the country for the purchase of diesel fuel, reported Russian news agency TASS citing US Journalist Seymour Hersh's website.
Brother TASS is the Russian government news agency :laughing:
 
Yes you are supporting what I said, the 350bn claim was a lie.

Brother TASS is the Russian government news agency :laughing:
Did Zelenskyy embellish 400 million or not?
If you read both the above articles that I posted and add how much US gave every 4 weeks from 2022 then you will get the total amount. Everytime US was giving billions of dollars weapons and sometimes even directly money.
You were saying previously that Ukraine was given only weapons but they were also given money in the form of USAID.
Almost the whole of EU were giving weapons & money to Ukraine but where did everything go?
Even Zelenskyy himself said that $350 billion given by Biden was only a grant not a debt and so he is not liable to pay back.
Now he came to speak with Trump to get aid of weapons and monetary help but when Trump spoke of ceasefire he was saying since 2014 Putin said ceasefire many times but did not honor it from Obama, Trump, Biden regimes to now. How can he trust now? But Trump said that he will be the witness this time and will persuade Putin for a ceasefire but zelenskyy left the meeting without giving any reply to Trump.
Zelenskyy always want more weapons and monetary aid to prolong the war which he cannot win. Trump is also saying the same to end the war and honor the ceasefire.
 
Did Zelenskyy embellish 400 million or not?
No source for this another than one guy who claims to have heard it from another guy.
Even Zelenskyy himself said that $350 billion given by Biden
Like I said that number is made up
You were saying previously that Ukraine was given only weapons but they were also given money in the form of USAID.
Bulk of it was equipment, of course some will be cash, but Zelensky yesterday said it is all digital and can be tracked.
 
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Not a tweet, but it's from this news
 
Like I said that number is made up
Made up, i.e., lying, in plain words. Why is Zelensky lying ? For whom, when his country is scourged from all sides.
May be brutal comedy ?
Bulk of it was equipment, of course some will be cash, but Zelensky yesterday said it is all digital and can be tracked.
Aren't the questions about what cannot be tracked. Or if it's so easy to be tracked, why the ambiguity.
War is a racket, this comedian got clowned into it with his own will and was overplaying his cards. He killed tens of thousands, now showing drama.
Remember, in the beginning of the war, it was all about weakening Russia with few budget pennies of USA. Now suddenly every penny counts !
The whole this is a disgrace against humanity. This moron wrote of lives and sufferings of his country to vultures all over.
Not a tweet, but it's from this news
What's the problem, those women are independent, extremely intelligent, from most developed environment of lighthouse from whether others can learn, etc., etc. Let them live the way they like, don't know whats the problem here.
 
Made up, i.e., lying, in plain words. Why is Zelensky lying ? For whom, when his country is scourged from all sides.
Zelensky didn't say 350bn, Trump (wrongly) said it
Aren't the questions about what cannot be tracked. Or if it's so easy to be tracked, why the ambiguity.
There is no ambiguity, this talk about money is just on the media/internet. If they had even the slightest proof, Trump/Vance would have shown it in front of Zelensky himself. They need any excuse to wash their hands off Ukraine. Elon has direct access to all of Ukraine military's communication, they can easily dig up any dirt if it is there.
War is a racket, this comedian got clowned into it with his own will and was overplaying his cards. He killed tens of thousands, now showing drama.
Reminder that this started in 2014 when Russia invaded Ukraine, there was no Zelensky, no NATO talk back then.
 
At this point I don't think this regular lying by Trump can be excused given the nature of responsibility he has.
The equivalent of typos and his staff will always clarify through the spokesperson. Biden was 10x worse.

Leaving aside the accuracy of the quoted figure are you serious that a good degree embezzlement has not occurred?
He might simply be fishing for excuses to bash Zelensky.
Typical opposition rhetoric which I would advise people not to fall for. I've already given a proper summary showing it was Z that started the argument.

In any case he's far more critical of Biden and the euro leaders who did nothing to stop the conflict and left this mess for him to sort out.
Brother TASS is the Russian government news agency :laughing:
Read it again

reported Russian news agency TASS citing US Journalist Seymour Hersh's website.
Doesn't it all depend on compromises he have to make, like signing off significant part of his country (primarily his own stupidity though) to the very enemy his is fighting, together with giving off costly natural resources of own country to frenemies who irresponsibility pushed him to this situation and easily washing off their hands after taking the assets.
If Trump pulls funding the war will come to an end anyway. The euros will spin this as US abandoned an ally.

What ally? Is there any treaty saying so. No. Is Ukraine a NATO member? No

So what ally did the US abandon here then..
Dude go?t into precarious predicament though, most embarrassing failure for a world leader to happen. Should be careful about his health.
He's a multi millionaire with houses abroad. He'll be fine providing he can stay alive
 
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