The Trumps & Elon tweets thread (Had to make this since it's never ending)

Coaxing the Russians to stop
He talked as a megalomaniac, other leaders are now putting him in his deserved place, now he will start learning baby lessons of international diplomacy, by the time he is learnt will have to suffer for his foolhardiness.
Being crude, spontaneous with witty responses may help in narcissist obsessed reality shows and such show businesses, but in international trade and diplomacy, timed and weighted responses are called for.
Now, he is actually begging Russia to stop so as to save his face.
 
India should get Trump to bomb PoK terrorist hideouts with US drones. This would avoid a Ind-Pak nuclear confrontation and further secure India-US ties, while allowing US to indirectly attack Chinese interests.

It would be a major failure if India doesn't try to get this from this US administration in my opinion.
 
Why he have to cajole CN if he is in control ? lolz.
Not cajoling. He's teasing/mocking them

I told you with him China will be getting the America test. Except this time the stakes are much higher.
India should get Trump to bomb PoK terrorist hideouts with US drones. This would avoid a Ind-Pak nuclear confrontation and further secure India-US ties, while allowing US to indirectly attack Chinese interests.
^This comment belongs in the other thread
It would be a major failure if India doesn't try to get this from this US administration in my opinion.
The upside for Trump here is if he can mediate in some way.
 
Not cajoling. He's teasing/mocking them
China tells Trump: If you want trade talks, cancel tariffs
Really, don't think CN is playing ?

India wants allies not mediators.
Unfortunate reality is that India generally never had any allies. Only Russia did stand by us on world stage when push came to shove.
 
CN didn't wait for his agreement.
They want him to budge before spouting nonsense.
We could be in for a long wait then.

The Americans have gamed this scenario and already said they are going to be affected in such an eventuality but the other side will hurt more. A lot more and I've made a detailed post about from Lei's video
 
The Americans have gamed this scenario already and said they are going to be affected in such an eventuality but the other side will hurt more.
Yep, this I agree with. If americans are willing to get hurt, China will get hurt more in short to medium term, in long term a manufacturing powerhouse like CN will get tons of requests from all over the world, which may be detrimental to USA.
Overall, this is a lose lose situation for both parties in short-medium term.
 
Yep, this I agree with. If americans are willing to get hurt, China will get hurt more in short to medium term,
That's enough to get them to yield
in long term a manufacturing powerhouse like CN will get tons of requests from all over the world, which may be detrimental to USA.
Long term the US has decoupled entirely from China and got alternative supply chains in place. If we are nimble we can be a part of it. Apple has already bet big on India.
Overall, this is a lose lose situation for both parties in short-medium term.
Not if China caves as expected

Nothing new with this. When ever we've cornered them in the mountains they hold out for a while, then something snaps, suddenly they see reason and they come back to the table.

That's how I think it will play out.
 
Apple has already bet big on India.
It's all Chinese manufacturing prowess behind this. Tata with Foxcomm. Acting as if this is Indian pure indigenous manufacturing power is not honest. Where as China can do this by themselves.
Long term the US has decoupled entirely from China and got alternative supply chains in place.
China will not sit idle during that time.
When ever we've cornered them in the mountains they hold out for a while, then something snaps and they come back to the table.
It's China buying time. Just as this extremist event happened, there were news about them moving in and establishing airbases very close the our lines of concern in the mountains.

Not into fan-boying China here, but one have to understand the power of opponent than hiding from the reality to oppose the opponent.
Looking at CN, one will have to think they are doing modern day version of "The Art of War by Sun Tzu" in practice.
 
It's all Chinese manufacturing prowess behind this.
Then Apple would not have been able to move out
Tata with Foxcomm.
Is Taiwanese
Acting as if this is Indian pure indigenous manufacturing power is not honest.
Nobody has said that. But working with Foxconn will help us build capabilities over time. Once upon a time Chinese also didn't know how to make phones. Taiwanese taught them because they felt kinship only to be threatened after.
China will not sit idle during that time.
How will they replace their biggest customer.
Not into fan-boying China here, but one have to understand the power of opponent than hiding from the reality to oppose the opponent.
I think Trump has thought this through for a long time and found the right people who can enable him to do so.
 
Then Apple would not have been able to move out
Well, thats the point.
Is Taiwanese
Now, China have to admit it.
Taiwanese taught them because they felt kinship only to be threatened after.
All HK and Taiwan are people who left China during their volatile era.
They are historically connected, it's only a matter of time China usurp these regions unless world is not prepared for alternatives.
How will they replace their biggest customer.
The entire world is open, if freemarket capitalism is allowed (not just preached). For eg.:
I think Trump has thought this through for a long time and found the right people who can enable him to do so.
Trump's ways does not seems to be inventive enough, from as far as what we are seeing.
 
Well, thats the point.
I don't think so. China has lost Apple
Now, China have to admit it.
?
All HK and Taiwan are people who left China during their volatile era.
They are historically connected, it's only a matter of time China usurp these regions unless world is not prepared for alternatives.
Taiwan was never part of the PRC

And the PRC is not China.
Except China broke that system
Trump's ways does not seems to be inventive enough, from as far as what we are seeing.
I'm not seeing any give from his side. As I said earlier 15 of the World's top economies are talking to him. If more agreements are made, China will be isolated.

Nobody is traveling to China. Instead XJP travelled to Malaysia, Vietnam & Cambodia. All three export more than they can produce. And are under high tariffs they will not survive with unless they stop relabelling Chinese goods as theirs.
 
I don't think so. China has lost Apple
Foxconn: While headquartered in Taiwan, the company earns the majority of its revenue from assets in China and is one of the largest employers worldwide.
Taiwan was never part of the PRC

And the PRC is not China.
That is just a statement, devoid of historical realities and how thing may take forward in future.
Except China broke that system
The US trade deficit with India stands at $45.7bn in 2024, in New Delhi's favour. That is small compared with the US trade deficit with China – $295bn last year.
On the other hand, India's trade deficit with China hit a record $99.2bn in March 2025. While India's exports to China declined nearly 3%, imports have grown rapidly and reached 25% driven by rising demand for electronics, EV batteries, solar cells and key industrial inputs—sectors where China enjoys an upper hand.

This is not going to be broken for quite sometime.

Nobody is traveling to China. Instead XJP travelled to Malaysia, Vietnam & Cambodia. All three export more than they can produce. And are under high tariffs they will not survive with unless they stop relabelling Chinese goods as theirs.
Proxies of China, difficult to isolate them for USA.
 
Foxconn: While headquartered in Taiwan, the company earns the majority of its revenue from assets in China and is one of the largest employers worldwide.
Still Taiwanese
That is just a statement, devoid of historical realities and how thing may take forward in future.
ROC isn't interested in being a part of the PRC and the PRC cannot militarily take ROC.

This is not going to be broken for quite sometime.
I'm talking about China's unfair practices that make it impossible to sell there. They preach fair trade but don't keep to their end.
Proxies of China, difficult to isolate them for USA.
On the contrary very easy to squeeze. They have a huge deficit with China and use the surplus from the US to cover that deficit. If the US tariffs hold they won't sell much Chinese made stuff and will have to cut down from China. Simple. Lei already explained this.

Proxies gone only China left. See now how this works
 
Still Taiwanese
For now. Military threatening exercises encircling the island every now and then are to send a message.
I'm talking about China's unfair practices that make it impossible to sell there. They preach fair trade but don't keep to their end.
Well, can't sell much to world's most ruthlessly efficient manufacturing and logistic network. Don't know how we can blame them for that.
Proxies gone only China left. See now how this works
Just like how India lacks a credible opposition, USA and world lacks a credible trade backup to load-balance against China. India is the only option, but we have to perform 10x better for years to reach there. Let's see how it goes.