Tired of Traffic Police ?? Maybe this may help.

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madnav

madnav

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Got this as a forward in mail from dad.

"Notice from Praveen Sood (Additional Commissioner for Traffic, Mumbai) -
022 - 22942276."
Dear All,
Please forward this mail as many as you can..do your bit for to help the
ignorant. Take a printout of this and keep it in your Vehicle's glove
compartment.
May come handy... Not knowing this may leave a big hole in your pocket.
Information you should have: If you are getting caught quite often by
traffic police, then please read on.
From now onwards, the Traffic Police cannot catch a motorist just to
examine the driving license or vehicle documents.
They can catch you only if you have violated any traffic laws or if you are
driving drunk. Remember that when caught for traffic violation, the fine
you pay must be limited to the violation. In other words, the police can't
bloat the bill saying that you have no insurance cover or emission
certificate, etc.
Many motorists do not know this. According to the law, no policeman can
slap a penalty on you just because you have no insurance or emission
certificate.
If you have not purchased insurance cover for your vehicle, then the police
officer must issue a notice, not impose penalty.
You must be given 15 days' time to purchase insurance cover and one week
for obtaining the emission certificate.
Days later, meet the sub-inspector at his station with the insurance cover
or emission certificate, so that he will annul the charge at once.
Police can fine you only if you fail to produce these documents within the
stipulated period.
If your vehicle is brand new, then you need not bother about obtaining the
emission certificate for one full year.
In response to a question as to why policemen fine people instantly without
giving them time to obtain insurance cover or emission certificate,
Additional Commissioner for Traffic Praveen Sood said, "Yes, it is a
mistake. People must force policemen to issue notice or complain to me at
least the following day.â€
The best way to teach the police a lesson is by filing a written complaint
with their higher officials and, a week later, using the Right to
Information Act (RTI) to know the action taken against them. Remember, any
question or application filed under RTI cannot be ignored and no official
is bold enough to ignore the RTI Act.
Praveen Sood
(Additional Commissioner for Traffic, Mumbai) 022 - 22942276.
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kippu said:
praveen sood is in bangalore , not mumbai FYI
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Quite right, nav's post is sourced from the article here.

But could not find any relevant info at the RTO site mentioned at the end of this article. Instead its on the traffic police website FAQ.

If a motorist is stopped by a traffic policeman only for checking his documents, what step should he take?
As per an order given to all traffic policemen, they are not supposed to stop any motorist just for checking documents. The motorist has the right to refuse the officer's request. However, a motorist's documents can be checked if he has committed an offence. If a motorist has been stopped without reason, he can note down the name and rank of the police officer and lodge a complaint on the website or email us at addlcptrafficbcp@gmail.com. The complainant would be required to mention certain specific details, such as the place, time and name of the officer concerned, for us to take action. We do receive complaints of the kind from motorists, and we have taken action against guilty police officers - some of whom have even been suspended for violating the order.

However, when motorists who have violated traffic rules are stopped, they should not argue with the officers concerned.
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I wonder what will the officer show you in return when you show him the law. What is the proof when he says you broke the red light and starts to make a slip for you for acting like an informed citizen of the law.
 
Renegade said:
I wonder what will the officer show you in return when you show him the law. What is the proof when he says you broke the red light and starts to make a slip for you for acting like an informed citizen of the law.
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arre its not when you break the law.

it is when there is regular check ups at some areas in city where they examine all vehicles.

i was aware of no PUC required till 1yr thingie but many people who buy vehicles dont know that . the police knows it but why wil they edgucate people?

the article says that the insurance papers etc need to be produced in 15days.. which was one of the reasons why many people endup paying fines. Police demands original papers and no one keeps original in their card/bike ka dickey :P .. there is only one way out for most and that is the bribe. now that people would be infirmed about 15days thingie, they will only have to leave their license probably at police which can be picked up while producing documents.
 
From now onwards, the Traffic Police cannot catch a motorist just to

examine the driving license or vehicle documents.
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But this is what happens the most. They create a makeshift barricade which causes a bottle neck. And stop vehicles and check their documents. NO, law has been broken..?
 
Renegade said:
I wonder what will the officer show you in return when you show him the law. What is the proof when he says you broke the red light and starts to make a slip for you for acting like an informed citizen of the law.
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Exactly, he'll just put up a fine saying you broke some law.
 
madnav said:
now that people would be infirmed about 15days thingie, they will only have to leave their license probably at police which can be picked up while producing documents.
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why leave license ? they issue you with an order instead of a spot fine and that's that.

viralbug said:
Exactly, he'll just put up a fine saying you broke some law.
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Then you pay the fine, which would be a nominal one after being notified of the same but they can't tack on these extra charges.
 
i always park my bike at the station & lock my helmet without any plastic bag protection, being rainy season my helmet got wet one day & didn't wear it & i was caught without helmet but unfortunately my insurance got over 3 days earlier & was looking for a coming weekend off to go for an insurance but i was asked fine for something irrelevant for what i was caught for, the havaldar asked me if i want to settle it, i refused to bribe him & told him that i would pay the government instead for his booze for that night, but is this letter could help me then i do not mind showing him the law at any point of time, irrelevant the place, because i cannot let this blady RESERVATION QUOTA guy harass someone like this, when i am caught for a crime then i should be fined for that & not for something else.

how can a law be for the state & not for the entire country, the center should stop giving autonomy to the states to be misused like this.
 
Renegade said:
I wonder what will the officer show you in return when you show him the law. What is the proof when he says you broke the red light and starts to make a slip for you for acting like an informed citizen of the law.
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wiggle out your mobile and start pretending (or if you have a mobile with voice recorder, then actually start recording :P ) that you are recording the conversation. And then you can go ahead and teach em the laws. Or if you have anyone with you in the car, he can be witness.
 
^Heh try that with UP Police and you would come to know. These guys are so bloody adamant once I was even told "Tere ko bol diya na hamko tere pe kaagaj nahi mile to matlab nahi mile. Maine nai dekhna koi kagaj. Chalan katega."
 
Yeah this tends to happen, when those ppl are short on their quota. When they have to generate funds they will squeeze you however they want.

I generally wear a helmet and have a jacket on which shows how much I care about my safety, I rarely speed (more coz I'm scared) and always drive at normal speeds... these are some tips that don't get you caught :bleh:
 
What's the deal with this insurance BTW, Is it mandatory to show the insurance receipt when they ask?

My usual path includes assembly in my route, so police checking is kind of always there (In hyd)

Now whenever the stop me, is't just a usual checking they are doing.

I wear helmet always coz I drive 32 kms per day. I have RC card, PUC and license. Still they ask me for insurance receipt. What the hell is that for.

Insurance does not have anything to do with traffic violation in this case IMO.

Once One cop stopped me while I was waiting on the signal, I showed him everything, he asked for insurance, I started talking in english and gave him the reason for not having the insurance, which he did not understand, so he let me go. duh.
 
crossbow said:
What's the deal with this insurance BTW, Is it mandatory to show the insurance receipt when they ask?

My usual path includes assembly in my route, so police checking is kind of always there (In hyd)

Now whenever the stop me, is't just a usual checking they are doing.

I wear helmet always coz I drive 32 kms per day. I have RC card, PUC and license. Still they ask me for insurance receipt. What the hell is that for.

Insurance does not have anything to do with traffic violation in this case IMO.

Once One cop stopped me while I was waiting on the signal, I showed him everything, he asked for insurance, I started talking in english and gave him the reason for not having the insurance, which he did not understand, so he let me go. duh.
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it is mandatory to have your vehicle insured.

you are not allowed to drive without an insured vehicle.

the insurance for your bike also carries an insurance upto 1lac for the rider and the pillion.

that is why they check the insurance papers. you shall always keep a copy in your wallet. do not keep any in bike ka storage..it will be like a lottery ticket for bike thieves to have insurance papers along with the bike.

now the law states that you may produce the papers within 15days and not necessarily on the spot. people are saying the law is applicable only to karnataka but you may want to consult with your local RTO for the same.
 
A guy in kerala tried to tell police abt his "rights" and told he will settle in court. The police kindly took out air from BOTH his tyres.

The guy was a middle aged man. This happened like 2 or 3 weeks ago. and YEAS in a very public place with LOTS of people.

was in papers thats how i read abt this.

Welcome to India.
 
Well my vehicle is insured, What I know is you must have RC, License and PUC every time.

I just dont understand why it is mandatory to check insurance receipt.
 
^ a vehicle must have a third party insurance.This insurance is not only for your bike but also helps pay for the damages of a victim in an accident caused by you, thus making it a must for you to have it .

Suppose something happens to you and you can't help out the victim personally.In such a case the money comes from the insurance agencies.This makes it mandatory for you to carry it , otherwise how will the police know whether you have third party insurance or not.
 
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