Travelling to Russia - money advice needed

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friends.
Money is my only concern as of now. looking for easy and safe options.

Ok so not too bad then

going to wait for while and watch where this Ukraine war goes from here. ...I think we will soon get to see if either some negotiation happens and peace or this will blow out in full scale war.

All negotiation efforts get shot down by the west. There was one the Turks managed in March. Shot down by the British PM.

Ukraine does not have the resources to do full-scale anything. Ukraine doesn't get a say in whether to negotiate or not. Can you believe it? Their sponsors make that call and so far it is to double down and keep doing that. But there are early signs in the EU that people are asking why they should suffer in terms of living costs etc just for Ukraine. Biden told the Ukrainian leader if he complains too loudly then it's harder for him to ask Congress for more funds.

yeah, funds come then ukis can go fight & die otherwise all comes to a stop. This is the strange thing, usually, the west is always the first to push for cease fires. Not with this one.

 

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Ok so not too bad then

All negotiation efforts get shot down by the west. There was one the Turks managed in March. Shot down by the British PM.

Ukraine does not have the resources to do full-scale anything. Ukraine doesn't get a say in whether to negotiate or not. Can you believe it? Their sponsors make that call and so far it is to double down and keep doing that. But there are early signs in the EU that people are asking why they should suffer in terms of living costs etc just for Ukraine. Biden told the Ukranian leader if he complains too loudly then it's harder to ask for more funds.

yeah, funds come then ukis can go die otherwise all comes to a stop.

You never know how one thing will lead to another and before we know the west starts supplying more deadly weapon and Putin decides to go nuke.

I have a feeling this is what west wants to make Putin use some kind of nuke response and burden Russia with so much sanctions till kingdom come .

 

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west always want some sort of conflict/virus so people keep buying expensive Arms/Medicines from them and WEST keep earning money on and on

 

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You never know how one thing will lead to another and before we know the west starts supplying more deadly weapon and Putin decides to go nuke.

I have a feeling this is what west wants to make Putin use some kind of nuke response and burden Russia with so much sanctions till kingdom come .

This is all disinformation to make Putin look like the bad guy. It is complete bullshit.

There were reports that missiles were being moved to the border. Little more research showed the missile moved to the border got 8,000 km range. Why then it needs to be near the border? It does not because it never happened. This story came from Polish & British intel who are in the storytelling business. And then you have people in the western newspapers with fancy offices who do not question and follow orders.

See the effect, you actually believe Putin is going to go nuke. Brilliant. It worked.

He said if threatened he would go nuke or if one was used against him. Who is the one asking for that to happen? Ask his counterpart in Ukraine who has been crying like a schoolgirl since this started.

 

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west always want some sort of conflict/virus so people keep buying expensive Arms/Medicines from them and WEST keep earning money on and on

hamare bagal mein bhi hai asa hi ek Ha**mi CHINA..

Anyways India is staying neutral and trying to balance out relations and play peacemaker but not sure if it will be allowed to play a bigger role. China would never want that for India in world stage.

This is all disinformation to make Putin look like the bad guy. It is complete bullshit.

There were reports that missiles were being moved to the border. Little more research showed the missile moved to the border got 8,000 km range. Why then it needs to be near the border? It does not because it never happened. This story came from Polish & British intel who are in the storytelling business. And then you have people in the western newspapers with fancy offices who do not question and follow orders.

See the effect, you actually believe Putin is going to go nuke. Brilliant. It worked.

He said if threatened he would go nuke or if one was used against him. Who is the one asking for that to happen? Ask his counterpart in Ukraine who has been crying like a schoolgirl since this started.

I said if the west does give that guy more deadlier weapons then Putin might not have a choice.

And I understand Putin is being made to look like a complete villain here. They literally forced his hands on to this war.
if they can do that than they can just maybe force him to use some tiny nuke attack .It all depends on how deadly this war goes from here.

Just read Biden is now supplying that guy with more military aid and air defence too.

 

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Moscow .

interesting.
why Russia now in middle of war situation. is it your current work is demanding or you are going for going for new opportunities ?

 

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I said if the west does give that guy more deadlier weapons then Putin might not have a choice.

They won't give anything that will get their tail caught in the trap. Just see what the piecemeal things they have given since the start.

if they can do that than they can just maybe force him to use some tiny nuke attack .It all depends on how deadly this war goes from here.

Why does he need to ? Russia has already won the military side of this battle. It's the economic one that is up in the air.

Just read Biden is now supplying that guy with more military aid and air defence too.

Yeah, more air defence systems because Russians took out 80% of what they had in the space of two days with precision strikes. I thought Russians finished their missile stock in March. So where these came from.

What does the west have to give? Germany has two days of ammo if a war starts. The US finished its surplus. Anything to give has to be made first.

The ground is still soft. Once it gets colder and the ground hardens there will be action. Maybe in November. Russian bloggers have been bashing the govt for going so slowly. They finally got a joint commander seven months later. This is beyond believable!! Is this a country that is under any stress? lol.

The west will not start WW3 for Ukraine. There is no simpler way to put it than that.

 

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interesting.
why Russia now in middle of war situation. is it your current work is demanding or you are going for going for new opportunities ?

Any business which has no major dealings with US, EU have opportunities in russia. Massive untapped opportunity there.
I think for most indians the barrier is the language.
Since their news channel debates about China and India (with positive views), I think Indians should milk every opportunity,

 

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interesting.
why Russia now in middle of war situation. is it your current work is demanding or you are going for going for new opportunities ?

Personal reasons.

 

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And I understand Putin is being made to look like a complete villain here. They literally forced his hands on to this war.
if they can do that than they can just maybe force him to use some tiny nuke attack .It all depends on how deadly this war goes from here.

Just read Biden is now supplying that guy with more military aid and air defence too.

Putin is made to appear like a vilian but outside of nato countries and those who follow this closely, can see right through the western lies.

Those fake injury/fake blood videos emerged yesterday, the dummy president getting green screen help.

Russia not being shared with NS pipeline investigation. All of this the world is seeing.

Even oct.10 air strikes against power infrastructure. The headlines in the west is putin attacking civilians.

Even a video of a pedestrian bridge being hit is manipulated. The short video shows as though the bridge was hit. Ask yourself why would russia waste a missile on a pedestrian bridge meant for walking and bicycle.
But the longer video shows that the target was a building(some EU building) below it and bridge remains untouched.

Or the supposed attack on the samsung building, where residents shared a image of the sharpnels which came from a short range ukraine buk m1 air defense. There is even a still photograph which shows the missile plume which originate and terminate from the city.

Regarding nukes, Russia still has lot of conventional fire power before it needs nukes.

Those air defense provided by US NASM basically is a ground launched Aim120. India dodged about half a dozen aim120 launched by PAF F16 at our SU30. The air launched versions from F16 have the advantage of the speed of the jet and altitude with 100km range.

The ground launched has a range of just 30km, same goes the german air defense system with slightly less range but with just 2 systems its not going to be effective.

 

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Personal reasons.

none of my business.. but something like... Russian Gory

 

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Any business which has no major dealings with US, EU have opportunities in russia. Massive untapped opportunity there.
I think for most indians the barrier is the language.
Since their news channel debates about China and India (with positive views), I think Indians should milk every opportunity,

any pointers like how to check/know about opportunities in russia, and kind of things Russia is working on and job market in general
are chinese already in russian job market ?

 

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any pointers like how to check/know about opportunities in russia, and kind of things Russia is working on and job market in general
are chinese already in russian job market ?

I don't think Chinese will flood Russian job market as Russian trust Indian more than Chinese

 

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any pointers like how to check/know about opportunities in russia, and kind of things Russia is working on and job market in general
are chinese already in russian job market ?

Chinese have invested in real estate and tourism and plants like mineral water etc.

They are making good use of opportunities there and you will see lotnif Chinese there.

It is true that Russians favor Indians more but it also true Chinese are coming in with big money and has managed to bribe Russian officials to get hold of many opportunities.

Unlike Indians looking for jobs and small business opportunity Chinese are looking at bigger picture.

 

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going to wait for while and watch where this Ukraine war goes from here. ...I think we will soon get to see if either some negotiation happens and peace or this will blow out in full scale war.

You will have to wait for a while then. Some commentators think this will go on for 3-4 years. Low intensity as higher costs more. So why wait?

Russia has about $550bn in foreign reserves right now. Close to recovering what got frozen in Feb. In little over six months

This conflict is similar to Iraq. The American objective was Iraq should not in our lifetimes pose a military threat to its southern neighbours. Iraq should not be a source of instability in the region.

The Russian plan is the same. That Ukraine not be a source of instability or pose a threat to Russia in the future. For that, they have to destroy Ukraine's war-making ability.

This will take time. But it will happen because the west is not willing to settle so Ukraine will be comprehensively defeated. It does not matter what support the west gives. Ukraine's nuisance potential will be reduced to that of the Baltics.

It took the Americans a good two years until that 'mission accomplished' moment. Russians will need at a minimum that much. Unless a surrender occurs sooner. The mood in Russia is to get the job done ASAP.

Unlike Indians looking for jobs and small business opportunity Chinese are looking at bigger picture.

I'm sure there are people here thinking the same too. They will show their hand in time.

The obvious sector to benefit here is automobile. Make them in India and sell them in Russia.

How well can they handle a Russian winter?

 

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You will have to wait for a while then. Some commentators think this will go on for 3-4 years. Low intensity as higher costs more. So why wait?

In meantime China is eyeing Taiwan and its a waiting game.

Russia has about $550bn in foreign reserves right now. Close to recovering what got frozen in Feb. In little over six months

This conflict is similar to Iraq. The American objective was Iraq should not in our lifetimes pose a military threat to its southern neighbours. Iraq should not be a source of instability in the region.

The Russian plan is the same. That Ukraine not be a source of instability or pose a threat to Russia in the future. For that, they have to destroy Ukraine's war-making ability.

This will take time. But it will happen because the west is not willing to settle so Ukraine will be comprehensively defeated. It does not matter what support the west gives. Ukraine's nuisance potential will be reduced to that of the Baltics.

It took the Americans a good two years until that 'mission accomplished' moment. Russians will need at a minimum that much. Unless a surrender occurs sooner. The mood in Russia is to get the job done ASAP.

I'm sure there are people here thinking the same too. They will show their hand in time.

The obvious sector to benefit here is automobile. Make them in India and sell them in Russia.

How well can they handle a Russian winter?

Dont think Iraq was only about security issue. USA would not care about Iraq threatening others especially Iran. It had to do with Oil as well.


Russian economy is no where near USA. Not sure if they can continue for next 3-4 years like this. Plus Putin is already quite hated in Russia if he does not try to do something fast expect some massive protest against him.

 

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Another payment option is called Payoneer. Heard someone in Russia was using it.

The condition is you must set up the account outside Russia or have proof of address outside Russia. They are honouring existing accounts in Russia but won't take on any new customers in Russia.

You will need an account at a bank in Russia that is not sanctioned. Are there any ?

Then a transfer from your Indian bank to Payoneer to unsanctioned Russian bank should work (in theory)

Payoneer India Review: All you need to know

Learn all about Payoneer in India- availability, opening an account, fees, withdrawing money, time taken, transfer limits. Know more.

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Payoneer in Russia

Hello, i am from Russia. You all know what happening in Ukraine, our "president" (dictator) made war there. I don't support it.

community.payoneer.com

 

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friends.
Money is my only concern as of now. looking for easy and safe options.
going to wait for while and watch where this Ukraine war goes from here. ...I think we will soon get to see if either some negotiation happens and peace or this will blow out in full scale war.

How are they getting money into Russia assuming they are Indian ?

 

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How are they getting money into Russia assuming they are Indian ?

They 're Russians.
so i was just trying to check flights and makemytrip shows AirIndia flight for month of Jan but Air india direct website says no flights.
How can they offer flights when Air India is showing no flights?

isnt that illegal?

 

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Russia's Sberbank opens 'vostro' rupee accounts at India branches

Russia's dominant lender Sberbank is offering clients "vostro" accounts in rupees at its branches in India, aiming to facilitate clients in carrying out rupee-denominated trade transactions which are increasing due to western sanctions.

www.reuters.com

so can we expect full integration of rupay system soon?

Saw some youtube video where rupay card are working in some atms there (sberbank) but many are also saying it still does not work for them.