Linux Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Released !

vNerd said:
Got the amd64/intel64 disc and it wouldn't boot in demo mode!!!!

THe ubuntu loading bar goes for some time then I am thrown to a "initramfs" prompt!
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Please ALT+F1 & ALT+F8 to see what exactly is happening?

also post the output of "dmesg".
 
I have 7.10 installed for a long time now, maybe its 7.04. I have a custom updated kernel with the latest catalyst drivers which is super stable and also lots of software. I honestly haven't booted Linux for ages now. Have been playing with OSX and other things. Wondering whether to install 8.04, its going to take a lot of time to get the system customised to my needs. Any compelling reasons? I guess this is the dilemma for all people with new releases.
 
raul said:
I have 7.10 installed for a long time now, maybe its 7.04. I have a custom updated kernel with the latest catalyst drivers which is super stable and also lots of software. I honestly haven't booted Linux for ages now. Have been playing with OSX and other things. Wondering whether to install 8.04, its going to take a lot of time to get the system customised to my needs. Any compelling reasons? I guess this is the dilemma for all people with new releases.
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If you are happy with your Present system then there is no need but if you are ready to Explore and look for a New,Improved and More Polished Desktop then you can try it.

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Party Monger said:
No i meant Ubuntu..thanks though.:)
@pat Is ubuntu ultimate edition Live cd??
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Its a live dvd of about 1.6 or 1.8 GB IIRC :) I am myself going to give it a go some time this weekend!
 
ok 8.04 is getting annoying....

while updating today, it asked for "what to do" about menu.lst, it normally adds the new kernel entries on its own, this time, there was an experimental option to merge the change, which failed when i tried it.

now i dont mind messing around menu.lst in a console (i actually enjoy messing around like this) but what about regular users who will be totally confused? this happened on my tablet pc, my desktop is still downloading the updates as i type this rant, but i think the same will happen here.

so now im going to install Fedora 9 on my tablet PC to see if it's newer kernel will let my wireless work with less manual steps...

and before Darky chimes in, yes, i will also overwrite 8.04 on my desktop with the latest Mandriva today, and update my rig page as he asked :p

i'll only go back to ubuntu if one of the soon follow-up releases like 8.04.1 fixes these silly issues, or just wait to see how Intrepid Ibex in October turns out...
 
The funny thing is this is an LTS release.

This is why Ubuntu is not taking off in the enterprise, and RHEL and SUSE still rule there. They do far more testing.
 
and before Darky chimes in, yes, i will also overwrite 8.04 on my desktop with the latest Mandriva today, and update my rig page as he asked
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:lol: So its update time. Do update us with F9 results :D

The funny thing is this is an LTS release.

This is why Ubuntu is not taking off in the enterprise, and RHEL and SUSE still rule there. They do far more testing.
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+1 Also I think Ubuntu took Hardy lightly.. Cause it was tooo much hyped and that makes them over confident, thats why nothing going in Canonical favor atm // :mad:
 
yea, i was always impressed that such a small team produced the best distro (IMO) out there in such short time, they probably find it really hard to thoroughly test...

plus, i guess they probably fell for the thoughts like Fedora is usually on the cutting edge (but a bit buggy) and Ubuntu uses older but stabler upstream releases...

Even F9 has one kernel version higher (.25) than Hardy (.24)...

But anyways, Feisty and Gutsy were awesome releases, I hope they learn and recover with solid Intrepid release (or maybe even fix the issues with the 8.04.1 release)...

Until then, F9 and Mandriva, here I come!
 
Gaurish said:
Please ALT+F1 & ALT+F8 to see what exactly is happening?

also post the output of "dmesg".
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I dunno if the other terminals would be alive just then, because this is failure in the kernel boot stage itself I think. Same reason no dmesg either

But will try again today, after I set RAID up for my primary drives. Didn't get time since that day cause I had hard disks to get rma'ed and no free hdd to try this on. I generally keep each new OS on separate drive as a precaution, lest they mess some thing else.
 
Sorry for the unrelated query. :)

I am planning to buy a new laptop in a couple of weeks, and I am planning to install Hardy 64-bit (already downloaded! :hap2: ) on it as the primary OS.

Now, I just moved to a new city (Bangalore - Banaswadi(?) Area) and I might have to move again. And I have lived with a 256 kbps unlimited Airtel broadband connection for the past 3-4 years, and I think it would be very, very difficult for me to survive for too long without a broadband connection. :rofl:

So, what I think I need is a USB-based broadband mobile wireless connection. Like the TATA Indicom plug2surf.

My question is, do any of such connections work with Hardy 64-bit?

And are any such unlimited-downloads-reasonable-speeds connections available?

I posted the same query in the ISP talk section, thanks for the people who replied there too.

Now, for some Ubuntu specific geek help... :eek:hyeah:

And no, I don't think I want to install Mandriva now; I just entered a new job, I will be really busy for the next few months; I don't want to take the trouble of learning a new OS.
 
Gaurish said:
TATA Indicom plug2sirf Officially works on Linux:hap2:
Check tata website. check FEATURES tab:eek:hyeah:
USB Modem, Wireless Internet Modem & Internet Cards from Tata Indicom

Apart from it BSNL EVDO is also reported to work nicely
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OK, thanks a lot. :)

Gaurish said:
Why you going for 64bit?
why specific reason?
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For one, the laptop will have 4 GB of RAM. So I want to be able to use all of that memory.

Two, why not? From what I hear, the XPS M1530(that's what I am planning to buy) works well with Hardy 64-bit. Someone at UbuntuForums.org has a blog page about it. :) So, hopefully there won't be too many config-related issues.

I think the 64-bit linux world is now advanced enough that people should ask "why not" and not "why"; and for me, at least for now, the "why not" question doesn't have any answers. :cool2: The 64-bit section in UbuntuForums.org is pretty good, lots of good info threads there.
 
Gaurish said:
TATA Indicom plug2sirf Officially works on Linux:hap2:
Check tata website. check FEATURES tab:eek:hyeah:
USB Modem, Wireless Internet Modem & Internet Cards from Tata Indicom
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Two questions:-

1. Is there any unlimited plan for TATA Indicom Plug2Surf? None is listed on the tariffs page... :huh: That page is a bit confusing for me... :S

2. The "Plug2Surf Whiz" has Ubuntu listed. But not Vista. I will have a Hardy/Vista dual boot system... So, the Whiz plan doesn't work with Vista? Also, only Ubuntu 5/6 is listed. No problems for 8.04 right?
 
vishalrao said:
Until then, F9 and Mandriva, here I come!
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OMG FFS what POS/PITA distros these are compared to Ubuntu :mad:

Nothing to beat its fast, clean and simple installation and configuration, so I am reinstalling Hardy since it has worked very well for me!

Ranting follows, so feel free to skip :D

The main pain point is rpm (with its yum/urpmi) which totally sucks (slowww) compared to deb (with apt/synaptic etc)...

Both F9 (on my tablet) and Mandriva (on my desktop) seem to want to keep downloading all sorts of shite for every little thing... especially the initial repository source (package list) refresh/update which is way faster in Ubuntu on sucky 256/512 kbps broadband.

Mandriva even froze while trying to run Codeina to install codecs, then after resetting it would go only to Fluendo Web Shop where it wants me to register - and not the Mandriva repo.

Doesn't play some of my videos, Kaffeine would crash on an MKV with h.264 and Totem seemed to hang, but realised that a popup appeared UNDER the window (regular occurance in other situations as well) asking to install the codec. It at least played the Peach OGG (not a total disgrace) but the frames seem to be dropping - not smooth playback...

The only good thing (only with Fedora 9 mind you) was wireless which was easy to setup because the .25 kernel's b43 driver works for me but I need to download the firmware anyway, which means Ubuntu Intrepid (or whichever Hardy release come out with a newer .25 or higher kernel version) will need just a few clicks to get my wireless working for sure.

At least Mandriva had desktop effects working out of the box which Fedora would need me to jump through various hoops (livna then manual xorg config) to enable - I gave up.

Plenty of other annoyances which I'd not bother to list here, like not recognising the Windows partition to boot and add into grub list during install (both distros) requiring extra steps to do so...

The last straw for me with Mandriva was when I tried to setup my printer, where it started downloading packages again for like half an hour, then finally it popped up a dialog with my correct printer model... yay, so i pressed OK, then guess what, yes, it started downloading MORE rpm shite! Waited for another few painful minutes then reset the PC. I had earlier selected the Sweden sunet mirror which normally works fast for me, so I doubt it was a slow mirror.

Back in Windows posting this :D

Don't want to waste the rest of my weekend on this, want to watch some movies or something, so will reinstall Hardy on my desktop next weekend.

Will keep Fedora 9 a little while (few weekends) longer on my tablet... but that too will get Hardy reinstalled... Why waste time trying to familiarise yourself with hostile distros when you can stick to a way more friendly one :p

To be fair, some of my frustration is prolly because I'm more familiar with Ubuntu than Mandriva or Fedora (and I consider myself intermediate level linux skillzz) but Ubuntu was a pleasant experience even when I tried it for the first time back with Feisty 7.04...
 
Mandriva even froze while trying to run Codeina to install codecs, then after resetting it would go only to Fluendo Web Shop where it wants me to register - and not the Mandriva repo.

Doesn't play some of my videos, Kaffeine would crash on an MKV with h.264 and Totem seemed to hang, but realized that a popup appeared UNDER the window (regular occurance in other situations as well) asking to install the codec. It at least played the Peach OGG (not a total disgrace) but the frames seem to be dropping - not smooth playback...
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Huh. Why don´t you change file association under KDE control Center....{I agree that Totem as default player is a bad idea in KDE as Mandriva already shgips Xine codecs: | } Mandriva 2008.1 Spring Edition : Breath Of Fresh Air - TechEnclave

Please do not use Compiz while watching Movies.. There seem to be some conflict with Compiz Video Support and Video Drivers..

Nothing to beat its fast, clean and simple installation and configuration, so I am reinstalling Hardy since it has worked very well for me!
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Eh ? You must be kidding me.. Ubuntu ubiquity has some serious issue. Like hangs on 82% Scanning the Mirror [testted on more than 10 comps] and installation hanged . .After 3-6 mins the Final screen will come up .. Installation Ended..

The main pain point is rpm (with its yum/urpmi) which totally sucks (slowww) compared to deb (with apt/synaptic etc)...
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:O :S What ! really.. I found it way better than Debian Package Manager.. the Gdebi Package Manager hangs for a while.. Not as responsive as URPMI Installer.. Also rpm doesn´t have to satisfy dependencies like debian.. It will automatically download all the required file unlike in deb..

and updates of rpm is way faster.. though I agree the Repository part is a bit big and might annoy people.. I am using 128 Ul and I like rpm atm :D Was a big fan of deb until I used rpm :p
 
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