Forum Feedback Upset about Mods changing to the Rules and doing stuff without Notification!!

SharekhaN · May 13, 2008

ideally the pricing system has to be per sale, but in an online environment it would be difficult to track the deals unless someone at TE has a better idea.

If you would ask me , 5k per 6 months is steep, but then again i am not running a business so i wouldnt know.

If TE wanted option for the website upkeep , i would suggest them to try the premium or vip member options once again. i would say it would be less of a headache than moderating flamed threads like these.

Crazy_Eddy · May 13, 2008

rahul_varma said:
@ crazy_eddy - - Dnt make it sound like u have done somekinda forvaour to me ok

Wat did u bent over ... y did u bent over did i ask u to bent over

All the other dealers have paid the full 1.5k per month. We specifically sat and worked out a lower rate for you with a few limitations while still protecting the interests of our other dealers. You don't feel that was a favour?

"This was indeed our fault for not being clear. Hence the PM from Mask diplomatically clarifying the issue"

So if u say that its your fault then y make it sound as if u are doing me a favour .

Ok let me clarify. Its our fault for not being clear and failing to realise that everyone will try to find loopholes.

Right now all my GO's are closed so does that mean i am doing u a favour.

I never asked you to close it?

Now after 4 months u do something abt it ...really donno y (Who says only 5 GO were active i say more than 5 were active every month i am the dealer creating them yaar execpt for the 1st ) just coz ur the MOD we all shld belive u HAIL MOD!!

Exactly what I said earlier :

And BTW, I have been patiently clearing out your old GO's for the past couple of months to ensure you stay within the 5 GO limit. This is not something out of the blue as you make it seem.

So now getting back to the EG. how is it the customers fault if the dealer was'nt claer abt wat he had stated in the first month.

Just becoz Customer did'nt do anything abt it (That too coz actually nothing was done) u screw his happiness.

Wrong analogy! We are not selling anything.

If its ur fault take it like a Man!! and do something abt it.

Exactly what i've been telling you since post 1 :S

We have laid down the rules as we envisioned it. Further worked on clarifying it with you. How is it our fault if you didn't get it?

U ppl don't give us any kinda receipt for the amount that we pay which inturn we can't show in our Expenses its really a total MOD Raj - - over it u showing me the attitude by saying - - " If thats how you feel "

I know u dnt care for my money dude but i do for mine.

Good point, I will clarify with the other staff on what can be done

SharekhaN said:
If TE wanted option for the website upkeep , i would suggest them to try the premium or vip member options once again. i would say it would be less of a headache than moderating flamed threads like these.

The dealer fees aren't being used for TE's upkeep. Rather they are more like a hurdle to ensure only the dealers who can sustain themselves get in. Else every other dealer will want to jump in and only make the dealer zone chaotic.

Finally to respond to the thread title "Upset about Mods changing to the Rules and doing stuff without Notification!!"

1. Rules were never changed. They are the same.

2. Stuff was never done without notification. We clarified the same before doing so.

BIKeINSTEIN · May 13, 2008

This is a dispute due to certain misundertstandings and taking things for granted.
Members have no say in this matter, especially those who have no clear idea of the functioning of TE.

Since this is clearly a matter between the dealers and the mods, i think they are wise enough to defend for themselves and put forth their points properly and require no help from any of us.

Though posting PMs in public is a cardinal sin of online interaction, Rahul Varma has a right to post his grievances and it's upto him and mods to settle this amicably.

Gaurish · May 13, 2008

I sincerely hope The issue gets sorted out & rahul_varma is satisfied:hap2:

IMO, TE should be more open about the dealers section.

this ensures greater transparency, which now is lacking:|

Amarbir · May 13, 2008

Hi ,
As Far As Demanding Respect Is concerned I Have Something To Say again openly.I Hope Many Of My Fellow customers And Dealers will agree Here ,

1 :If We go By the threads In Any Technical Forums The Conclusion of The thread will Be Where To buy the Product "which Dealer "

2 :So Now If We Few People Are Trying To Get Alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Those things For The Customers We Should Be Treated with Little Respect .At Least Little

3 :This Dealer Is Good That Dealer Is Good Is Not the Matter again Cos ,If a Dealer Has Reached a Point To Be Qualified For a TE Like forum Dealers "He is Intelligent ,And Cos He is Sourcing The Products For The customers He Is Really Deserving the Little Money He is Charging .

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o You People Know How Much The Knowledge Of Our distributors sucks .The Knowledge Level Is -1000000000% Raise To The Power n And N is Infinity Here ,But even then We Are Managing To Answer your Queries and Questions .

It Really Feels Painful When Ever any single Soul in The Community Makes Fun Of any Dealer ,This Is Not Needed and Appriciated ,

Jasku · May 13, 2008

Hello, have been following responses on this thread, did not wanna comment, but could not stop myself.

Firstly- @Eddy- why cant dealers have more than 5 GO;s running, I mean whats the harm, as long as the rates are good for the TE members, let them reap the benefit. Dont see a flip side to this, unless you concerned about taking up space on the TE servers.

Secondly @Amarbir- we do respect all dealers in here, its thanks to guys that we get good deals.

Hope this issue gets resolved ASAP, and we are back to being one happy family again

TheMask · May 13, 2008

@ Rahul & Amarbir:

1. We are NOT here to entertain dealers. We merely make a platform available for interested dealers to get to their customers and are willing to pay the charges.

2. Firstly, Rahul, you didn't even wish to stick to rules formulated for Dealer's Paradise on payment charges. Despite that, on your persistent requests, we formulated a new set of rules to accommodate not-so-serious dealers such as yourself. Thats actually a favor! And acting on the request of the community, of which you are a part of too. Besides, should that (as in bending the rules for your sake) be treated by other members of DP as 'being partial' to you? Only after we had modified our Terms & Conditions to accommodate you as a dealer, did we offer similar payment options to the other dealers as well.

3. When you signed up to Dealer's paradise, you have agreed to have 5 GOs per month. It just means you may have 5 GOs (running) per month. That is what was clarified in the subsequent PM I sent you. A

4. As someone said, "TE isn't an online extension to your offline business." If you wish to register here as a dealer by paying the fees, it is your will. You are not forced upon to do so. Infact, TE is giving you an opportunity. That doesn't mean you are doing TE a favour. Members get to benefit, you get to profit and TE ensures only serious dealers are given the opportunity.

5. We do not give receipts, nor have we mentioned the same anywhere. However, once the payment is received, a prompt PM is sent to the dealer member confirm the same.

6. @ Rahul:

The PM you received from me that have quoted in your first post was sent on 25th Feb 2008. The moving of old threads to Closed Deals section was carried out on 29th Feb 2008. As you can see, the moving of your GO threads to Closed Deals section is not as dramatic nor as sudden as you seem to have projected here. You were given ample time to get the same clarified and when you chose to keep mum, we did (had to) do the needful. You dont say you were not aware of your earlier threads being moved to the Closed Deals section, do you? Atleast that is what you seem to say by starting a thread with ".. and doing stuff without Notification." Even as we speak, I see you have 7 GO threads open. So, who's circumventing the rules here?

@ Amarbir, we are not here to entertain your business potentials. If you see a good opportunity in helping the community by bringing out good deals to the members, the community benefits from it. How you go about your business is none of our concern. You (as in all dealers) have requested for an opportunity to sell, and the platform for same is provided. With a set of rules in place. Its your (as in all dealers') wish to stick to it or carry on without being a part of it.

@ Gaurish: NO! We do not want TE to be another of those flea markets with every tom, dick n harry trying to sell their wares. And, could you clarify what transparency is lacking now? Not that I want to ask, but am just curious.

@ Jasku: Rules are formulated taking a lot of things in to consideration. Once done, any member who's willing to abide by it may sign up.

@ Rahul Varma: Rules are formulated to offer a level playing ground to one and all. As always, there are a few exceptions, which is what we offered to you as well. You choose to keep mum for two and half months and cry foul on us now? You've claimed to be losing business over the delay. Who's been delaying all this while in seeking clarification? Us or you?

And last but not the least, if you are comfortable with taking your businesses elsewhere for being cheap and feasible for you, you are free to do so. By that logic, you may as well sell as an individual on ebay! TE is never going to be a Dealer-favoring platform - read that as we are not here to help you maintain a healthy sales book. Dealer's Paradise was created for serious dealers who want to bring good deals to the community. I do not see any reason to be flexible when 3 other regd dealers are comfortable with the Terms & Conditions. Inspite of that, we have accepted your requests and willingly amended / twisted / favored the Terms & Conditions to suit yourself. It would be highly unfair on the other dealers who are paying what is asked of them when they see a fellow dealer getting unfair advantage. Hence the rules. Hence the moving of your GO threads to Closed Deals.

TheITWares · May 13, 2008

I really dnt wish to comment on anything wat crazy is saying coz i feel his behaviour out here in this thread with me is not good he is just saying the same stuff manupulating the words here and there tatz it.

u ppl are selling us , u have given us a platform etc etc thats wat u ppl always say to us its an expense and its a huge one so i am saying the same.

+ 1 to Amarbir , Gaurish

Bikey wats the point of a community where a person can't even speak abt wat he wants to say u are saying let this be between me and the Moderators y so there can be and are so many other ppl are are disappointed with this thing y r u stopping them frm speaking. See the point is very simple whn we made a Deal u ppl said u can create upto 5 Threads per month

Now u ppl are backing out saying that i am using a loop hole , i misinterpreted , i screwed u and wat not showing me all the attitude u can this that and thats the truth.

Its not abt the 1.5K i can give u that in seconds but its really steepand its also the way to treat ppl here y are things not discussed if they are to be implemented on us y dont u take are prospective

How much time will it take for u ppl to start a re-arrangement of GO's Rules , 1 Days , 2 Days if it can happen in 2 days on other forum y can't the same be implemented here.

U say that their traffic is less and ur is more so is ur revenue from the ad's out here anyways i am just telling wat i feel like

Guys u have to understand this is a community first u people did'nt used to allow us in market section ... seee with time wat has happened.

But still theres only one thing lacking transparency and discussions where are our Admins do we ever see them posting anything

Here just look at carzy's comments plz tell me how many of u think that he is even thinking abt considering my point..

Its like for a product u get 3 Yrs warranty and after a Yr if a guy has 2 times claimed an RMA u start clarifying saying boss u mis interpreted it is available only once a Yr.

Amarbir · May 13, 2008

1. We are NOT here to entertain dealers. We merely make a platform available for interested dealers to get to their customers and are willing to pay the charges.

The Mask ,You Are Not Entertaining Dealers ,We Are your Community Dealers Not Any Off the Mill Dealers ,e Understand Technology ,I Bet Many of The People With agree to That ,Show Respect ..........

2. Firstly, Rahul, you didn't even wish to stick to rules formulated for Dealer's Paradise on payment charges. Despite that, on your persistent requests, we formulated a new set of rules to accommodate not-so-serious dealers such as yourself. Thats actually a favor! And acting on the request of the community, of which you are a part of too. Besides, should that (as in bending the rules for your sake) be treated by other members of DP as 'being partial' to you? Only after we had modified our Terms & Conditions to accommodate you as a dealer, did we offer similar payment options to the other dealers as well.

Good Job The Mask If you People Actually Accomodated Him

3. When you signed up to Dealer's paradise, you have agreed to have 5 GOs per month. It just means you may have 5 GOs (running) per month. That is what was clarified in the subsequent PM I sent you. A

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4. As someone said, "TE isn't an online extension to your offline business." If you wish to register here as a dealer by paying the fees, it is your will. You are not forced upon to do so. Infact, TE is giving you an opportunity. That doesn't mean you are doing TE a favour. Members get to benefit, you get to profit and TE ensures only serious dealers are given the opportunity.

I Would Like to Ask You abu that If It Is Not About Extension ,But Does The Community Have No Use Of a Dealer Here ,Means if all the Dealers Are Gone What is the Use Of Having a Tech Community were People Cannot Buy anything They Really Want To Buy ...I Hope Some Customers And Members Could Comment On Your this Comment Like Me .

5. We do not give receipts, nor have we mentioned the same anywhere. However, once the payment is received, a prompt PM is sent to the dealer member confirm the same.

Then Please Sit Down with the staff And change this Rule ,We Are Doing Proper business And Want Proper Service Reciept infact I Do 100% business In a Proper Way And My Accounts Section i Demanding That 1500 Bucks Reciept ,If you People Have Not Done It Now Kindly Reconsider and do IT .

6. @ Rahul:

The PM you received from me that have quoted in your first post was sent on 25th Feb 2008. The moving of old threads to Closed Deals section was carried out on 29th Feb 2008. As you can see, the moving of your GO threads to Closed Deals section is not as dramatic nor as sudden as you seem to have projected here. You were given ample time to get the same clarified and when you chose to keep mum, we did (had to) do the needful. You dont say you were not aware of your earlier threads being moved to the Closed Deals section, do you? Atleast that is what you seem to say by starting a thread with ".. and doing stuff without Notification." Even as we speak, I see you have 7 GO threads open. So, who's circumventing the rules here?

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@ Amarbir, we are not here to entertain your business potentials. If you see a good opportunity in helping the community by bringing out good deals to the members, the community benefits from it. How you go about your business is none of our concern. You (as in all dealers) have requested for an opportunity to sell, and the platform for same is provided. With a set of rules in place. Its your (as in all dealers') wish to stick to it or carry on without being a part of it.

Abu ,This Is Understood Naturally ,I am Not Getting what Are You Trying To Tell Here .

@ Gaurish: NO! We do not want TE to be another of those flea markets with every tom, dick n harry trying to sell their wares. And, could you clarify what transparency is lacking now? Not that I want to ask, but am just curious.

True ,But the Interest check Section is Not Really Interest check Its a Fish Market with People Having Goes In 5th Part

@ Jasku: Rules are formulated taking a lot of things in to consideration. Once done, any member who's willing to abide by it may sign up.

True

@ Rahul Varma: Rules are formulated to offer a level playing ground to one and all. As always, there are a few exceptions, which is what we offered to you as well. You choose to keep mum for two and half months and cry foul on us now? You've claimed to be losing business over the delay. Who's been delaying all this while in seeking clarification? Us or you?

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And last but not the least, if you are comfortable with taking your businesses elsewhere for being cheap and feasible for you, you are free to do so. By that logic, you may as well sell as an individual on ebay! TE is never going to be a Dealer-favoring platform - read that as we are not here to help you maintain a healthy sales book. Dealer's Paradise was created for serious dealers who want to bring good deals to the community. I do not see any reason to be flexible when 3 other regd dealers are comfortable with the Terms & Conditions. Inspite of that, we have accepted your requests and willingly amended / twisted / favored the Terms & Conditions to suit yourself. It would be highly unfair on the other dealers who are paying what is asked of them when they see a fellow dealer getting unfair advantage. Hence the rules. Hence the moving of your GO threads to Closed Deals.[/QUOTE]

No Dealer is a Dealer without The customers and No customer Will Be Happy Without a Dealer Its a win Win situation

TheMask · May 13, 2008

rahul_varma said:
u ppl are selling us , u have given us a platform etc etc thats wat u ppl always say to us its an expense and its a huge one so i am saying the same.

At the risk of "just saying the same stuff manupulating the words here and there tatz it" let me repeat - Dealer's Paradise is ONLY for serious dealers. You pay , you get access. Simple. Besides, you get free publicity as well.

rahul_varma said:
Bikey wats the point of a community where a person can't even speak abt wat he wants to say u are saying let this be between me and the Moderators y so there can be and are so many other ppl are are disappointed with this thing y r u stopping them frm speaking.

LOL. First, you choose by your own free will to not respond to the PM, nor seek any clarification. Yet, you dont hesitate before pointing a finger at the mods for ".. doing stuff without Notification!!" Still, you claim you are being oppressed by not given a fair chance?

Also, who might the "so many other ppl are are disappointed with this thing" and what might they be disappointed with?

rahul_varma said:
Its not abt the 1.5K i can give u that in seconds

Perhaps we should have stuck to the original set of terms and conditions outlined and saved you and us of all this trouble.

rahul_varma said:
y are things not discussed if they are to be implemented on us y dont u take are prospective

Bravo! But how do we take your perspective when you dont even bother to reply to our PM? Just so you know we are not telepathic, in case you thought otherwise. :lol:

rahul_varma said:
How much time will it take for u ppl to start a re-arrangement of GO's Rules , 1 Days , 2 Days if it can happen in 2 days on other forum y can't the same be implemented here.

How much time does it take for ppl to start a new community and have a field day selling their wares there? Why wont you do that but be here? Answer those two questions, and you'll pretty much have a good answer to the question you've raised there.

rahul_varma said:
U say that their traffic is less and ur is more so is ur revenue from the ad's out here anyways i am just telling wat i feel like

What's the relation between the two? :S By the same logic, when other 3 members are paying 1.5k a month, why dont you pay up too? Why should the rules be lenient just for you?

rahul_varma said:
Guys u have to understand this is a community first u people did'nt used to allow us in market section ... seee with time wat has happened.

and see what it has come to now! Even though most of the staff and admins were not too keen on Dealer's Paradise, the constant requests by dealers to bring out good deals to members here was overwhelming enough to give in.

rahul_varma said:
But still theres only one thing lacking transparency and discussions where are our Admins do we ever see them posting anything

Why do you need the admins to post here when the mods are answering to your queries and giving out clarifications? Admins as such are busy to be bothered about these petty issues.

Amarbir[Chandigarh] said:
The Mask ,You Are Not Entertaining Dealers ,We Are your Community Dealers Not Any Off the Mill Dealers ,e Understand Technology ,I Bet Many of The People With agree to That ,Show Respect ..........

Respect is something one 'earns' by his good will and deeds. It is not something you command.

hyeah:

Amarbir[Chandigarh] said:
I Would Like to Ask You abu that If It Is Not About Extension ,But Does The Community Have No Use Of a Dealer Here ,Means if all the Dealers Are Gone What is the Use Of Having a Tech Community were People Cannot Buy anything They Really Want To Buy ...I Hope Some Customers And Members Could Comment On Your this Comment Like Me .

Members here have been buying and will continue to buy with or without the help of dealers on TE. TE is not the be-all-end-all solution for its members. Our members are wise enough to spot a good deal here or with their respective local dealers. Dealers' Paradise has come into form only 4 months ago. Does that mean our members were not buying anything at all before that?

Amarbir[Chandigarh] said:
Then Please Sit Down with the staff And change this Rule ,We Are Doing Proper business And Want Proper Service Reciept infact I Do 100% business In a Proper Way And My Accounts Section i Demanding That 1500 Bucks Reciept ,If you People Have Not Done It Now Kindly Reconsider and do IT .

Amarbir[Chandigarh] said:
True ,But the Interest check Section is Not Really Interest check Its a Fish Market with People Having Goes In 5th Part

Whats wrong in starting a GO if it brings a good deal to the members? I mean, arent you dealers here for that very reason as well? :S

Crazy_Eddy · May 13, 2008

rahul_varma said:
I really dnt wish to comment on anything wat crazy is saying coz i feel his behaviour out here in this thread with me is not good

And yours is ? Sending PM's threatening to start a thread in feedback section? Replying back rudely to PM's saying "I dont wanna talk over here plz post watver u want on the thread" ?

Do you think we're out here to waste time?

rahul_varma said:
See the point is very simple whn we made a Deal u ppl said u can create upto 5 Threads per month

Are you even listening? :S Can you please quote what we have said correctly.

We did not say you can 'create' upto 5 threads a month as you wish.. we said you are 'limited' to 5 threads a month. That means You can CREATE upto 5 GO's a month, but you have to CLOSE the older GO's so that you have only 5 GO's in total open at a time!!

How much time will it take for u ppl to start a re-arrangement of GO's Rules , 1 Days , 2 Days if it can happen in 2 days on other forum y can't the same be implemented here.

GO rules are fine as is. The only point that needs urgent remedy is dropping this 5K for 6 months deal. Will that do? Please let us know, it can be done in 2 mins.. not even 2 days. People like me actually worked hard to offer you the deal when the rest of the staff had given a clear NO. Thanks for the gratitude, I've learnt my lesson

Guys u have to understand this is a community first u people did'nt used to allow us in market section ... seee with time wat has happened.

Yes with time, people like yourself have found other ways to deprive mods of their time and energy.

Here just look at carzy's comments plz tell me how many of u think that he is even thinking abt considering my point..

What is your point? That you want unlimited GO's :S

Lets ask our fellow dealers if they're happy about you paying 800 bucks a month for unlimited threads while they still carry on paying double the amount? Or if they're happy with you opening 5 GO's every month with 30 GO's open at the end of 6 months?

Its like for a product u get 3 Yrs warranty and after a Yr if a guy has 2 times claimed an RMA u start clarifying saying boss u mis interpreted it is available only once a Yr.

Wrong analogy again!! We never offered you a 6 month 'warranty', we offered you a 6 month 'warranty' WITH restrictions. You did not clarify yourself about the restrictions.

@Jasku: The 5 GO per month limit is only for rahul_varma, since he was given a lower-rate. Rest of the dealers are allowed unlimited threads.

TheITWares · May 13, 2008

Masky i am and i was serious from day one everybody knows that and if i knew this kind shit that only 5 GO's running at the same time whn i had paid u i would have never ever taken that offer 5 GO's - they acually dnt even complete the whole Computer components ... i really did misunderstood u but if u would have tld me the day i created the 6th Thread and Closed it and not let me do it would be really very very clear to me then.

Now u see as u said in the previous post - - Even as we speak, I see you have 7 GO threads open. So, who's circumventing the rules here?

Y have you and are u letting me do this!! It is ur fault and after having like four months one fine night u think my Go's needs to be below 5 and wat not.

i dnt need clarifications i need wat i was promised "5 Threads per Month" not Max 5 GO's running only per month ... and dnt give me all that

TE is not a Dealer favouring platform , nobody has asked u to keep my sales book healthy i am pretty well capable of the same

i kept mum as nothing much happened today it happened so this

Ya i know u ppl dnt give any kinda receipt y is it really diff for TE to open a Current A/c and show the Payments being made to TE.

We are Dealers and Members too also we are not asking for any favors if some customer comes to me and asks for discount is he asking for a favor no he is not its upto me to decide if i give the same or no.

You had a choice and u made it and gave me an offer , but were not clear abt it, also did'nt do anything abt it 2 months later u send me a PM and first u say that u did'nt make it clear then u say that u misinterpreted and finding a loophole and wat not.

Comn accept ur mistake and reinstate my threads this is not a favour or anythng i am asking for i need these thngs to be done and that too asap coz i have paid for the same.

TheMask · May 13, 2008

rahul_varma said:
Masky i am and i was serious from day one

Doesn't quite look that way to me, when you ignore of the updates and two and half months later, come back seeking a clarification.

rahul_varma said:
everybody knows that and if i knew this kind shit that only 5 GO's running at the same time whn i had paid u i would have never ever taken that offer 5 GO's - they acually dnt even complete the whole Computer components ... i really did misunderstood u but if u would have tld me the day i created the 6th Thread and Closed it and not let me do it would be really very very clear to me then.

FYI, received your payment on Jan 22 2008. And until that time you have 7 GOs open and running. Till Feb 25th, you were given ample time to comply to the rule of 5 GOs a month. Since we did not see that happen, a polite reminder PM was sent clarifying the same. Since no response was received nor any clarification was sought on that, we took action subsequently. So, the question of informing you after your 6th thread doesn't really arise, as you were supposed to be paying 1.5k as outlined.

rahul_varma said:
Now u see as u said in the previous post - - Even as we speak, I see you have 7 GO threads open. So, who's circumventing the rules here?

Y have you and are u letting me do this!! It is ur fault and after having like four months one fine night u think my Go's needs to be below 5 and wat not.

4 months? Jan 22, 2008 to Feb 25, 2008 is 4 months? in which part of universe is that? :S

Don't make this any more dramatic, mate. Had you got ur acts right after the PM, we wouldn't be facing this situation!

rahul_varma said:
i dnt need clarifications i need wat i was promised "5 Threads per Month" not Max 5 GO's running only per month ... and dnt give me all that

U still get to have 5 threads a month open. Simple! That's what you were offered, that's what you are entitled to and that's what you are getting.

rahul_varma said:
i kept mum as nothing much happened today it happened so this

For the record, 14 of your GO threads have been moved to Closed Deals section since after you chose to ignore the PM.

rahul_varma said:
You had a choice and u made it and gave me an offer , but were not clear abt it, also did'nt do anything abt it 2 months later u send me a PM and first u say that u did'nt make it clear then u say that u misinterpreted and finding a loophole and wat not.

The offer was made and it was clear cut. Its sorry to know that you failed to understand the entirety of it. Besides, lets cut this '2 months later' crap already. The PM you received from me was one month from the date of your receipt of payment.

rahul_varma said:
Comn accept ur mistake and reinstate my threads this is not a favour or anythng i am asking for i need these thngs to be done and that too asap coz i have paid for the same.

The way i see it, its the other way round! You have paid for having 5 GOs a month open and I see you are getting that privilege. There is nothing more to it.

Over and out.

Gaurish · May 13, 2008

Clarification About My post demanding more transparency.

The truth is, i really do not know what the Dealing/Understanding between Admins & dealers.
AS in case of rahul, Mods/Admins say he was given a Lower rate but with the additional restrictions so other dealers who have paid more don't feel cheated.

I agree to . but did you announce(publicly) that you are amending free structure, by introducing a new category.

From the resource i have, i can see only these rates

The DEALER will be required to pay a fixed monthly fee as per the following fee structure irrespective of the number of sales made during that month. All fees are payable in advance and to be credited to a special fund earmarked for this purpose by the 5th of every month, failing which the DEALER will have no access to Dealer's Paradise for that month.

Access Fee per month (if paid on monthly basis) - Rs. 1500.00
Access Fee for 6 months (if paid in advance) - Rs. 7500.00
Access Fee for 1 year (if paid in advance) - Rs. 12500.00

where is the restriction wala category?.

I may be totally wrong here, as i really i have no idea about TE dealer section due to Lack of Transparency. so i can't judge who is right(also i dont' have a right to do so).

Lastly Its only My suggestion/Advice.Please see if this can be put to any good use. but final thing would be decided by Admins/mods. I am sure that i would be in intrest of the Community as whole and note a single individual .:hap2:

I meant no Offense to anyone but last few posts between between mods/admins & rahul are quite meaningless. same thing over and over.
I don't know is who is right there but i want Justice to be done.
Please forgive me if i have said something which i shouldn't

TheITWares · May 13, 2008

[quote name='TheMask']At the risk of "just saying the same stuff manupulating the words here and there tatz it" let me repeat - Dealer's Paradise is ONLY for serious dealers. You pay , you get access. Simple. Besides, you get free publicity as well.

Ya but i felt 7.5K was hiuge so i asked for discount and u ppl said u are allowed to create 5 Threads per month
LOL. First, you choose by your own free will to not respond to the PM, nor seek any clarification. Yet, you dont hesitate before pointing a finger at the mods for ".. doing stuff without Notification!!" Still, you claim you are being oppressed by not given a fair chance?

Which Pm are we talking abt here sir

Also, who might the "so many other ppl are are disappointed with this thing" and what might they be disappointed with?

With the way u treat us not notifying us wat u ppl are going to do and sometimes whn u actually do which is like 2 months later ... still no action is taken u see who is serious abt the rules me u ... as i said i just read 5 Go's can be created Per Month and now u ppl are saying i shld have asked for Restrictions to it n all in detail is'nt that ur Job if u are bending the rules state them wisely so that this would'nt have happened

Perhaps we should have stuck to the original set of terms and conditions outlined and saved you and us of all this trouble.

Yes i too feel the same but as we agreed on 5 Treads per month and not only 5 thread at a time etc etc i need that for now

Bravo! But how do we take your perspective when you dont even bother to reply to our PM? Just so you know we are not telepathic, in case you thought otherwise. :lol:

I know u ppl are not telepathic which PM are we talking abt here we are here asking for transparency while stating or creating rules so that we and u know and discuss them out PM is not transparent at all

How much time does it take for ppl to start a new community and have a field day selling their wares there? Why wont you do that but be here? Answer those two questions, and you'll pretty much have a good answer to the question you've raised there.

I really did'nt get wat u are talking abt plz explain
What's the relation between the two? :S By the same logic, when other 3 members are paying 1.5k a month, why dont you pay up too? Why should the rules be lenient just for you?

Coz u agreed it to be that way whn i asked if thy did'nt is that my fault
and see what it has come to now! Even though most of the staff and admins were not too keen on Dealer's Paradise, the constant requests by dealers to bring out good deals to members here was overwhelming enough to give in.

Ya we knw that u dnt take us that seriously its mods Admins and No users in the discussions always

Why do you need the admins to post here when the mods are answering to your queries and giving out clarifications? Admins as such are busy to be bothered about these petty issues.

Right that was just a request i think ppl would feel good abt it nothing else

TheMask · May 13, 2008

^ the same goddamn PM you've quoted in ur first post!

Gaurish said:
but did you announce(publicly) that you are amending free structure, by introducing a new category.

where is the restriction wala category?.

I dont see why any of these concerns bothers anyone who is not a dealer.

Gaurish said:
as i really i have no idea about TE dealer section due to Lack of Transparency.

Dealer's Paradise is for dealers only. Just like dealers wishing to safe guard their trade practices cannot be termed as "Lack of Transparency."

TheITWares · May 13, 2008

TheMask said:
Doesn't quite look that way to me, when you ignore of the updates and two and half months later, come back seeking a clarification.

Dude u very well posted the 14 Threads which were sent to closed deals sections can u tell me how many were open and this is good u do it late and tell us we were lieneant

Don't make this any more dramatic, mate. Had you got ur acts right after the PM, we wouldn't be facing this situation!

Had you got ur rules right and in detail told me abt it this would'nt have happened from my side too

U still get to have 5 threads a month open. Simple! That's what you were offered, that's what you are entitled to and that's what you are getting.

No go see i paid 1.5K 2 mins back i dnt have more energy to say the same thing again n again but i still stick to wat i say u had to let me create 5 threads per month u were not clear abt it not my fault, take the money and reinstate all my threads asap PLZ

For the record, 14 of your GO threads have been moved to Closed Deals section since after you chose to ignore the PM.

How many were open at the same time and why were they more than 5 all the time

The offer was made and it was clear cut. Its sorry to know that you failed to understand the entirety of it. Besides, lets cut this '2 months later' crap already. The PM you received from me was one month from the date of your receipt of payment.

If it was clear cut then this wouldn't have happened

The way i see it, its the other way round! You have paid for having 5 GOs a month open and I see you are getting that privilege. There is nothing more to it.

Ya i know you are a Mod at TE and can talk and do watver u want change watver u want whnever u want etc etc

Transparency = PM'ing - - Gr8

Over and out.

I just hope someone come's up and fight abt this as whnever we have anything new to decide there either PM'ng or Mods/Admin deciding i still feel all the poblems regarding the rules shld be openly discussed and the mods shld abide by the majority.

Crazy_Eddy · May 13, 2008

Gaurish said:
I agree to . but did you announce(publicly) that you are amending free structure, by introducing a new category.

From the resource i have, i can see only these rates

where is the restriction wala category?.

The rules/rates havent been revised since Jan. The 'reduced/restricted rate' was worked out a bit after that and was kept unofficial since it was offered only to rahul_varma. Of course after the next month when it was time for renewal we also sent out a PM about the new reduced rate to the other two dealers at that time (katmandude and Phoenix) notifying them of this option, but they seemed happy carrying on with the full rate.

whatsinaname · May 13, 2008

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the time line went in this order?

1) rahul_verma wanted to become dealer, but thought that 7.5k for 6 months was too expensive because he is not a full fledged dealer. He wanted a discount.

2) Even when the other mods were not to keen, crazy_eddy pushed the deal and allowed 5k for 6 months but restricted to 5 GOs per month.

3) rahul_verma started making 5 GOs per month and had more than 5 open at the same time.

4) Mods clarified after a month that they meant 5 active GOs running and a max of five can be made a month.

5) rahul_verma did not reply to that PM.

6) Mods started closing his old threads

7) rahul_verma took issue and started this thread.

In my opinion, the problem started at step 5. rahul_verma should have taken up the issue as soon as it was raised (because the rule was stated slightly ambiguously and could have been misinterpreted) When the mods clarified, rahul_verma should have talked about it right then and there.

Now that this issue has arisen, maybe rahul_verma should just decide whether he wants to continue or not. If he is not happy with the terms, he could request a return of the remaining two months' payment and stop dealing on TE. If he wants unlimited GOs, maybe he could upgrade to the plan Amarbir and other dealers are paying. I think it is not fair for rahul_verma to get the same benifits as the other dealers when they are paying full price. I am on the Moderators side on this issue.

TheMask · May 13, 2008

@ Rahul: Pls forward the communication from mods that entitled you to 'create' 5 GOs per month. All this discussion is pointless now.

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