What decides whether a game will run smoothly and whats wrong here ? .

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Hi guys , have a query .

After reading on the mentioned topic , I came to know that you need a good processor and good gpu to get good gaming performance ! .

Now good gaming performance is generally measured with FPS , more FPS at certain setting = better .

But it is ultimately the FPS which measures the performance right ? .

Now the real confusion for me is this . I like playing strategy games but strangely till now felt Total War series was a not so good , like civilization .

So played Rome Total War which a friend had , worked smoothly and enjoyed so asked him to open Shogun 2 which is the latest total war game , but the Shogun 2 game was lagging a lot .

Now the Strange thing is this ,

for rome total at ultra setting , we were getting 30FPS ( measured using BeepaFraps) , it was running smoothly enough .

But for Shogun 2 at ultra settings , it showed the same 30FPS strangely . Isnt Shogun 2 much more demanding than rtw ? .

Now another strange thing is , while at 30 FPS , rtw was easily playable , shogun 2 lagged like anything .

So we reduced all settings to low , still the same 30 FPS , again strange ! and still unplayable . Tired we gave up on Shogun 2 and he gave it away to someone .

Now but this thing is not going out of my mind , am i missing something here ? . I mean whats wrong , ultimately we talk on FPS terms only right .

So when one game is playable at the same FPS , the other is not , how ? .

Things somewhere just dont fit , even if something is wrong with the CPU or some hardware , the display performance should be the same at the same FPS right ? .

Sorry if I sound a dumb because I really dont have much knowledge in this department and sorry if am a bit repetitive .

Thanks
 
You musth'v enabled VSync.. it locks the fps to the screen's refresh rage.. but strange thing is that the screen's refresh rate is generally 60fps..

try benchmarking with different tool
 
you got the gross picture of fps.. however several things affect smooth gameplay.. fps has several itinerations or types it is described by.. there is max fps, min fps and average fps..
 
Vsync will try to lock it to 60fps. If it is unable to do so it will lock it to 30fps. Turn off Vsync from ATI or NVidia control center. Please also post the system configuration, Shogun 2 needs a pretty beefy system to run even in high settings.
 
tufel said:
^But doesn't turning off V-sync cause screen tearing?
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Yes and very very apparent. Sometimes the tearing becomes way too annoying. You could actually notice a line that separates the 2 sections of the display and traversing from bottom to top!
 
^^ Not usually. While VSync does make the flow smoother, if you have a powerful system you will want to turn it off to get high FPS. It might drop down to 30-40 in some areas but it will give you 70-90 for the most part making it a better experience.

I always play with Vsync off. This gives me an FPS boost in most areas of the map, and 30-40 FPS in crowded areas, which I can live with. Rage is an exception, absolutely unplayable without Vsync.
 
I have somehow failed to notice if a game becomes any smoother above 60 frames. Whatever titles I have played this far since May 2011, the hardware was able to max them out well above 60 fps consistently so I generally enable v-sync at all times.

But Rage was terrible in that sense.
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Somehow am not able to quote posts here , just quoted post in other threads .

Ok So i ll leave a notification #[member='max']_demon , #[member='mrcool63'] , #[member='jc36lect3r'] .

@max_demon ,

Sir I dont know how to change the Vsync settings , I tried but not able to find it anywhere .

@mrcool63

Yes sir , you are right . But am telling you the average FPS only .

@jc36lect3r

Sir , The configuration is this , Core2duo ( dont know the model number but he says it was the top duo model below the core2quad ) . An AMD 1gb graphics card (again he doesnt recollect the model no ) .

But again if not FPS then what decides it , I ve read several processor reviews which talk of FPS as a benchmark .

And again , what I cannot understand is one game plays well at 30 FPS and other doesnt , ideally both should be the same right ! . I mean performance .

edit : Sorry did not add some details .

4 gb ram , 1600x900 resolution .
 
harry_houdini said:
Somehow am not able to quote posts here , just quoted post in other threads .

Ok So i ll leave a notification #[member='max']_demon , #[member='mrcool63'] , #[member='jc36lect3r'] .

@max_demon ,

Sir I dont know how to change the Vsync settings , I tried but not able to find it anywhere .
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check in game/graphics driver settings.. to prevent screen tearing vsync is uesd, but it requires the frame to be buffered first, so if its not keeping the next frame ready, than it waits for it to be ready which may cause loss of fps.

also rather than just fps, graphic artifacts or bugs make us feel that game isnt running smooth,
 
vsync is only useful if the card is outputting way more than 60fps.. what vsync does is synchronize fps and refresh rate of the monitor. so there is no ghosting/overlap or so... it has very minimal function when fps is 30-40... it is useful for the high end cards that output around 150fps while your monitor only ever reaches 60hz(refresh rate) at max
 
mrcool63 said:
vsync is only useful if the card is outputting way more than 60fps.. what vsync does is synchronize fps and refresh rate of the monitor. so there is no ghosting/overlap or so... it has very minimal function when fps is 30-40... it is useful for the high end cards that output around 150fps while your monitor only ever reaches 60hz(refresh rate) at max
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What you said basically but what it does is prevent screen tearing which is the common after effect of having a refresh rate much higher than say a LCD monitor at 60hz.

A benefit of enabling v-sync is it prevents your GPU from working uncessarily at say 150fps and instead at a steady 60fps and thus keeping it at lower utilization and cooler.
 
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