Market Feedback What happened to my sale thread?

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I just lie in your sale threads that you are offloading. It is acceptable.

I bought 2 Raspberry Pis at 2500. And I may buy more. And if I sell them 2800, I am clearly making profits. However buyer also will be happy cos even 2800 is also a good price. So price whatever the hell you want, as long as you find a buyer, there is no problem*.

*however I may come to your thread and reply better deals. And shoo away the buyers.
 
That will be awesome avi thats the true spirit of the forums. Keep up the good noble Works.
Thread crapping always welcome
 
Thats where you are mistaken, you missed the point entirely, My query was why was my thread trashed and not other thread - and that member was warned not to post - and yet his second thread is alive. I wanted to know why and some people are making me the villain here .:wacky::nailbiting:
 
avi said:
Thats how open online community works and thats why people look into market sections.
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Thread crapping is a bad thing and its NOT how it should work.

You are basically picking on one person just coz he wants more money. If its a open community, why is that so wrong? Is he extorting money? Is he making someone buy? Did he threaten you?
 
Define thread crapping?

posting actual value of a product?

#1. lets say you are selling a brand new Moto G 8GB at 13K. I would like to point out that a new one is available in Fk at 12k.
#2. You are selling a used Moto G 8GB at, 12K. I would like to point out that a new one is available in Fk at 12.
#3. You are selling a used Moto G 8GB at 11K. I will keep my mouth shut.

imo, #3 is thread crapping. or may be I am wrong.
 
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chetansha said:
My query was why was my thread trashed and not other thread - and that member was warned not to post - and yet his second thread is alive.
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The market section isn't some six sigma production line where mods are going to thoroughly screen each and everyone's thread. We assume you have some common sense. If someone brought our attention to your thread and you got caught, thats your bad luck.

The good news is - your reports are still not coming through. I guess the system is smart enough to know what to ignore!
 
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Well then you need not blasted me for your forum not reporting the threads. So its not my fault. Now that we know which thread / post we are discussing, has anything been done about it ?

And like I mentioned, it feels nice to get special treatment
 
avi said:
Define thread crapping?

posting actual value of a product?

#1. lets say you are selling a brand new Moto G 8GB at 13K. I would like to point out that a new one is available in Fk at 12k.
#2. You are selling a used Moto G 8GB at, 12K. I would like to point out that a new one is available in Fk at 12.
#3. You are selling a used Moto G 8GB at 11K. I will keep my mouth shut.

imo, #3 is thread crapping. or may be I am wrong.
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In my opinion 1 & 2 both are thread crapping. I dont understand what make you think 3 is thread crapping. But anyways.

Why do you need to crap the thread? Why cant you tell the poster via PM that this is the case? Do you think thats too much of an effort for your noble deed?
 
I feel that if the price quoted is higher - then a post about a reduced price from other sources should not be thread crapping as long as
A. the offer is valid in India and not through PPO and the likes,
B. nor is it through some shady sites.

However, any posts where the veracity is in doubt, should be considered as thread crapping and deleted.

Sending a PM is just a drawn out process with a 50-50 chance of getting the seller to lower his price.
 
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vivek.krishnan said:
Sending a PM is just a drawn out process with a 50-50 chance of getting the seller to lower his price.
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See I know people wont see this as an issue. This is the mentality. PMing the seller is a chore. and even you used the word "getting" the seller to lower the price. :)Proves my point that its bullying.
 
chetansha said:
Guys come back to the main issue, why certain thread is allowed and some arent
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Your point is dealt with. No need to debate on that anymore. We shall post something tomorrow on this.

So lets keep the discussion going in the direction in which it is going.
 
I agree with m-jeri. Why do you only consider the interests of the buyer as worth defending?
If sending a PM feels too much then one should even abstain from posting the same in the thread.
I also agree it is a kind of bullying. If one is not interested in buying the product in question they should keep away from the thread. If there is price policing why isn't there some steps to stop people from lowballing/ bargaining. I still remember the times when the listed price was final and no one lowballed/bargained if it was too much for them. In one of my threads I made it clear that I specifically price the devices higher just because of this bargaining habit of us Indians.
 
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To be honest, I have no problem in bargaining also. But buyers should realize what is affordable to them, be realistic about the prize and don't antagonize the seller if the bargaining doesnt go his way. As it is the norm nowadays.

A little respect goes a long way. At least for the next sale.
 
m-jeri said:
To be honest, I have no problem in bargaining also. But buyers should realize what is affordable to them, be realistic about the prize and don't antagonize the seller if the bargaining doesnt go his way. As it is the norm nowadays.

A little respect goes a long way. At least for the next sale.
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I don't have a problem with people making offers. If it doesn't work for me, I politely decline.
What I don't like is when someone starts haggling and then starts telling me that I can get it for this much from so and so place.
Also I guess the aversion comes from me being completely incapable of bargaining. If I want to buy something and I have the money I will buy it at the asking price. So I guess that's why it irritates me more.
I learned the hard way. I used to price my products very genuinely both here and elsewhere I sold but this Indian habit of people bargaining and haggling took a lot of toll on me. I used to literally give away the products I was supposed to be making money out of.
I learned my lesson and now I have guys who sell for me and I pay them a portion of my profit. I still haven't learned how to be a good salesman because I don't know how to take anyone for a ride.
This was also one of the reasons why a forum MP felt way more comfortable to me, because here people used to know what a good deal looks like and buy for the asking price. That has changed these days and I guess we have to as well, whether it makes us feel disgusted or not.
 
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I agree with m-jeri. Why do you only consider the interests of the buyer as worth defending?
If sending a PM feels too much then one should even abstain from posting the same in the thread.
I also agree it is a kind of bullying. If one is not interested in buying the product in question they should keep away from the thread. .
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Posting in thread makes it public. So that both buyers and sellers would know and as well lurkers also will know the price. I really don't understand why PM route. Seller can decide to revise his price or not. And sorry, no one will keep away from thread just because they are not buying. Do understand that its a forum and thats how community works helping each other imo. If TE saved me 500 bucks on a deal I was about to make, then my respect for TE increases more and I will start participating more often.

There are ways to bully someone. If someone points to a better deal, how is that bullying?

Even after that seller can continue with its price and ignore posts. Now its choice of buyer whether to go with same seller's price or find a better deal. He may still go with seller at higher price in case he may be needed product urgently or he may trust the seller more etc.

Just selling at higher price and skimming off money is not gonna work in open forums. I again say:

#1. lets say you are selling a brand new Moto G 8GB at 13K. I would like to point out that a new one is available in Fk at 12k.
#2. You are selling a used Moto G 8GB at, 12K. I would like to point out that a new one is available in Fk at 12.
#3. You are selling a used Moto G 8GB at 11K. I will keep my mouth shut.

If you import iPhone 5S, you can still sell and make profits without selling it higher prices than Indian markets.

Lets be all fair and let the buyer know whats the current market price and let him decide. The trick is to price it correctly so that buyer would still like to buy from you.

Regarding lowballers, don't reply to them, simple. And if they start irritating, then report to mods.
 
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I am pretty sure PM is never going to work. If a seller has listed a product to sell for X price and people feel price should be less than X then if you PM the seller, he will in most cases just read and ignore the PM and carry on with the sale. I don't think anyone will decrease the price if someone PMed him and told to do so.
He will wait for few days to see if anyone buys the product. If not then he may reduce it further.
If you are a seller and want to stick to your price, just politely reply to the person.
Mentioning a counter offer or price from XYZ website should be allowed as long as it is proper. Like Vivek above mentioned.
 
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I do agree with what @avi posted above. Why should genuine price suggestions be considered a form of bullying? It is not about just defending the buyers' interests. It can be beneficial to the seller too, by updating him with current market prices, if he was ignorant of that. Whether the seller wants to revise his pricing, is his prerogative. I am sure there were instances when the seller was also alerted that he was selling something at very low prices, so it works both ways.
Why should anyone resort to PMs if there is nothing to hide? Post the better deal with adequate proof in the concerned thread itself. Let the seller revise the price or justify his price tag. This is not thread crapping or lowballing. The bold underlined part is important though. There is no point saying that my next door aunty sells the same item for 1000 rs less, unless I can substantiate that with a bill or receipt.

Lowballing is another issue. That cannot and should not be tolerated. If at all someone wants to negotiate prices, it has to be done via PM.
 
I genuinely wanted to ask this question. All the talk here was of asking the seller to reduce his prices so he does not make profit according to market rates. Suppose a seller bought stuff few months back and listed it at 10% less than market prices. His stuff doesn't get sold. In meantime the price of the item everywhere has increased a lot. Can the seller increase the prices to the prevailing market rates?
In this case can bill be withdrawn from sales thread?
 
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