YeAhx
Galvanizer
Solid point there. Even among vegetarians there are those who eat eggs and those who don't so it's good you pointed that out.
What Supplements do you take
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You evaded the question.
And I have mentioned the commercial aspect behind it.
They do unless you believe everyone has the exact same human body, genetics and health keeping the diet aspect aside.
The fact that you believe that this blanket fortification works for everyone tells me everything.
I may have misunderstood your question, if that wasn't the answer you were expecting.
My intention wasn't to evade.
Are you trying to ask the current status of Iodine mandate in India?
If so, then yes it is still mandatory.
In fact, almost every country in the world (around 126 from a cursory search) currently have legal mandates for Iodine in salt.
Sure. But is it the ONLY aspect?
If most countries around the world are mandating something, then I think there has to be a good reason behind it.
Commercial can be one, but for such a widespread phenomenon, I think it's mostly health.
Countries in Europe which rank high in consumer safeguards are also doing fortifications. I don't think those countries would put commerce over human health.
If you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.
I have said this again and again, if it were so, supplements wouldn't be available without a prescription.
Supplements do not affect anyone differently.
Only the absorption and excretion rates differ because of the factors you mentioned.
That said, (and like I've mentioned earlier as well), while the expressions aren't different, interactions can be.
If you are on medications, always consult a doctor before supplementing.
And if you are self-supplementing, always do an yearly bloodwork to check whether your supplementation is within bounds.
Me and most countries around the world.
Anyway, this is it.
I have said all I've wanted to say on this topic and we are mostly going around in circles now, so there is no point in me continuing this further.
We both have our opinions on this and they differ, which is alright.
I'm not going to assume or have any inclination that we can make each other change our minds, so let's leave it at this.
Feel free to reply to this post if you want, but I won't be continuing further.
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DigitalDude
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Just a little back story, I had a severe health crisis like 18 years ago. Since then I have been under care of various doctors including diff. specialists and got treated in diff. hospitals - the best in Chennai. Doctors and the entire medical system is great and a modern miracle for any acute health crisis. I'm extremely grateful to be saved by a competent medical team. But when it comes to chronic health conditions a lot of the same playbook they use for acute conditions is used for chronic conditions too. So the outcomes are not very good. They are tied to their "standard of care". Which is horribly outdated for our chronic conditions.
So, many doctors in the US were not satisfied with this modern medicine approach to chronic conditions and its outcomes. They decided to try an out of the "standard of care" and an outcome based approach. It is called functional medicine. The idea is to embrace more modern testing methods and cutting edge research (that will take decades to get into "standard of care", sometimes never... due to pharma lobby etc) in getting to the root cause of an ailment and treat it with diet and lifestyle changes first, assured with supplementation and use medication as a last resort. And to treat modern lifestyle conditions with a systems based approach instead of treating every organ system like an independent island.
There are plenty of functional medical doctors in the US. In India too we are seeing an adoption of this methodology and functional medicine doctors are increasing. This is not a "speciality" in itself. But apart from general doctors I have seen many specialists also embrace the functional medicine approach - esp. cardiologists and endocrinologists. I have been following this "scene" for the past 10+ years and have done a LOT of reading on this to take care of my own health. I was starting from a very low point though. I have become aggressive with my health research esp. after the Covid-19 episode.
There are many functional medicine doctors all over India but lots of them AFAIK are in big cities like Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai, Banglore etc. it doesn't matter because they do video consultation and mainly rely on detailed testing. So you can see them even when you are under the care of your regular doctor. And you can discuss about this with him too. I don't want to make a specific recommendation of a particular name. You can search for "functional medicine India" and if you want, for your specific location. There are also many wellness centers that provide functional medicine consultation but don't call it so. It is not a very descriptive branding as you can see that I had to write this giant wall of text to explain.
From my experience of dealing with the medical establishment for more than a decade, I can confidently say that our health is far too important to just leave it to the medical professionals. Implying, people take responsibility for their own health and not outsource it completely to their doctors. Btw just rephrasing the famous quote "economics is far too important to leave it to the economists"
bssunilreddy
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I follow a Canadian NRI doctor's advice now since for 5 years or so.
My whole family along with my extended family follows his advice very keenly.
He does not give advice for everybody one advice but asks and consults a team of his colleagues in his hospital and in Canadian Medical Association depending on every persons problems per se and gives advice.
I took a DNA test and in it I got Bi-Polar Disorder only not schizophrenia but I took tablets for this for about 7 years for which I suffered a lot both mentally and physically. This is due to my wifes compulsion. I always used to sleep in my bed and everybody would be doing their things.
Now I follow these:
Fermented curd rice
Cod Liver oil Capsules
Vitamin B12 Tabs
Vitamin D3 Tabs
Resperidone Tabs.(1mg or 2mg)
Before I was given by my wife 200mg Solian and the best doctors never are suggesting this much mgs. But in India it's given for serious mental health patients. While my wife also took Solian tabs between 2018-20 she used to hide them in a kitchen cabinet and take them during the night.
Now she says that I am mental but she is of sound mind.
I went to courts for 4 years, worked in a coal mining company for 3 years yet she says that I am mental.
Now when I asked her did my DNA report show any signs of schizophrenia. No right.
Shit happened in my life but I just continued my life because I got myself adjusted to my situation accordingly. Thats all.
If guy health is healthy mind health is healthy. Thats all.
Update: My wife is says if I post anything related to schizophrenia episode of mine which isn't actually true according to my DNA report, TE mods will again ban me saying that I am not of sound mind.
My whole family along with my extended family follows his advice very keenly.
He does not give advice for everybody one advice but asks and consults a team of his colleagues in his hospital and in Canadian Medical Association depending on every persons problems per se and gives advice.
I took a DNA test and in it I got Bi-Polar Disorder only not schizophrenia but I took tablets for this for about 7 years for which I suffered a lot both mentally and physically. This is due to my wifes compulsion. I always used to sleep in my bed and everybody would be doing their things.
Now I follow these:
Fermented curd rice
Cod Liver oil Capsules
Vitamin B12 Tabs
Vitamin D3 Tabs
Resperidone Tabs.(1mg or 2mg)
Before I was given by my wife 200mg Solian and the best doctors never are suggesting this much mgs. But in India it's given for serious mental health patients. While my wife also took Solian tabs between 2018-20 she used to hide them in a kitchen cabinet and take them during the night.
Now she says that I am mental but she is of sound mind.
I went to courts for 4 years, worked in a coal mining company for 3 years yet she says that I am mental.
Now when I asked her did my DNA report show any signs of schizophrenia. No right.
Shit happened in my life but I just continued my life because I got myself adjusted to my situation accordingly. Thats all.
If guy health is healthy mind health is healthy. Thats all.
Update: My wife is says if I post anything related to schizophrenia episode of mine which isn't actually true according to my DNA report, TE mods will again ban me saying that I am not of sound mind.
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Supplements are needed for many people those are genetically or otherwise prone to mal-absorption of nutrients from food, diabetics (they crucially need vit. B due to medications they take), etc. 1.4bn+ Indians, poverty, varying food habits, etc. means there might be varying requirements too.
Following a good Dr.'s advice is best than blindsiding.
Following a good Dr.'s advice is best than blindsiding.
YeAhx
Galvanizer
Bro you trolling? You can't detect schizophrenia from a DNA report lol.
Basic google search:
Is there a genetic test for schizophrenia?
Understand what’s possible to predict through genetic testing for schizophrenia and how recent advances allow genetic risk to be better quantified.
guides.orchidhealth.com
Schizophrenia and Your Genes
Schizophrenia is a type of psychosis, which means you can't always tell the difference between what is real and what is a thought inside your head. It sometimes runs in families, and experts say part of the reason may lie with your genes.
www.webmd.com
YeAhx
Galvanizer
Snippet from first link:Basic google search:
"...You might be surprised to learn that schizophrenia is primarily a genetic condition; studies estimate that schizophrenia is about 80% heritable..."Is there a genetic test for schizophrenia?
Understand what’s possible to predict through genetic testing for schizophrenia and how recent advances allow genetic risk to be better quantified.
Schizophrenia and Your Genes
Schizophrenia is a type of psychosis, which means you can't always tell the difference between what is real and what is a thought inside your head. It sometimes runs in families, and experts say part of the reason may lie with your genes.
"Yes, it’s possible to measure your genetic predisposition to schizophrenia. This is different from a diagnosis however. Measuring predisposition tells you if based on your genes, you are more or less likely to develop schizophrenia than the average person."
Doesn't mean one will 100% become schizophrenic if they have a certain genes.
Snippet from second link:
"Experts think there may be a link between schizophrenia and your genes -- a chemical code you inherit from your parents that lives in every cell in your body. This code helps determine everything from eye color and height to parts of your personality.
In some cases, a change in a single gene -- scientists know of at least 10 different possible ones -- can raise your risk for schizophrenia by anywhere from four to 50 times, depending on the gene."
"Think" and "may". Enough said. While someone can have 50 times more risk of schizophrenia doesn't mean they will 100% be one in the future. Anyway I was looking for a DNA report with yes or no result, Which I don't think there is.
You purposefully ignored para in second link:
"In some cases, a change in a single gene -- scientists know of at least 10 different possible ones -- can raise your risk for schizophrenia by anywhere from four to 50 times, depending on the gene.
In other cases, the cause may be the deletion of a certain set of genes. For example, the "3q29 deletion" cuts 21 specific genes and raises your risk by 40 times.
Only about one in 100 people get schizophrenia. But out of 100 people with the 3q29 deletion, about 40 will get schizophrenia. Another deletion, "22q11," raises your risk by about 30 times."