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6pack said:
This is the difference between true techies and the noobs (pardon me, no offense meant). I mean people who really care will try out all permutations and combination's and then ask for help if they get lost or come to a standstill. Most newcomers just want answers at the drop of a hat. Like example, someone wants to buy an item tomorrow and asks at 7 in the evening for advice. what was he doing the whole week before? counting chicks? then when they don't get answers they start cribbing and complaining that no one is helping them. People should go and try to learn something on their own. Then they can share that info with others and make this place better.
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ok, i really do not understand what are you trying to say here, like i said most of the help is available on google, from making a bomb to a rocket, does this mean that people here do not know anything & just copy paste from google without having experience, i did not say that, but experience was needed.

reason why i mentioned google that most of the smallest info which can be easily available on google, people still open a thread for it, so it was for them.

no one is crying & cribbing here, do u have any experience of a TE member cheating you for money & not sending the product & then u going to the cops & court for this ??????

if yes then you are more welcome to advice me on that, but if you just say to anything that comes to ur mind first then my response is cribbing ???

the reason you go to any professional (let be from any field) because he/she is experienced.

imagine you going to the doctor for some ailment & the doc is referring google to treat you ??? (this is just an example & not to be taken literally)
 
malhotraraul said:
this is not about If's & but's about hardware support, who are you categorizing here ????

read again, i said experience & most of the information here is Google based, so what did you give out & what went wrong ????
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What you have faced could happen to me too. We are not infallible. There may be folks here who google stuff and then give out the information. They're only doing so because those who ask are too lazy to.
If everybody were to use google, large sections of TE would become redundant ( and i believe they already are).

What went wrong, well, I'm not sure. I would suggest you give up that sense of entitlement. That's what I'm trying to point out here. When you join here , TE does not offer to provide technical help, (and while that is there) that is not the point of TE. Nor is it an ecommerce platform, and takes no responsiblity for the actions of its members - although you can sell your stuff here.

My first guide here
http://www.techenclave.com/guides-and-tutorials/improve-your-music-playback-79449.html
was borne out of googling. Anyone could have come up with the information given some time. And there were cases when it didnt work. when kx drivers screwed up windows installs etc.

If I had known that people were going to blame me for something that might have gone wrong, I sure as hell wouldn't write it in the first place.

Probably why people dont, nowadays anyway :|
 
greenhorn said:
What you have faced could happen to me too. We are not infallible. There may be folks here who google stuff and then give out the information. They're only doing so because those who ask are too lazy to.

If everybody were to use google, large sections of TE would become redundant ( and i believe they already are).

What went wrong, well, I'm not sure. I would suggest you give up that sense of entitlement. That's what I'm trying to point out here. When you join here , TE does not offer to provide technical help, (and while that is there) that is not the point of TE. Nor is it an ecommerce platform, and takes no responsiblity for the actions of its members - although you can sell your stuff here.

My first guide here

http://www.techenclave.com/guides-and-tutorials/improve-your-music-playback-79449.html

was borne out of googling. Anyone could have come up with the information given some time. And there were cases when it didnt work. when kx drivers screwed up windows installs etc.

If I had known that people were going to blame me for something that might have gone wrong, I sure as hell wouldn't write it in the first place.

Probably why people dont, nowadays anyway :|
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no one is blaming anyone here, they being lazy is not justified but then this is all this thread is all about.

just last night i had a problem setting up my router & i forgot how did i set is 7 months back, i googled it for the same & then i refered more than one link & solved the issue, u check & cross check whether the information provided is true or not.

infact i got lotsa help from TE members, my new PC was assembled by BIKEY himself & senior members like zhopudey help me often.

but then should i be dependent on them & later crib about something blame them that it did not went well, then when do i gain experience ???
 
@malhotraraul, that post wasn't directed at you, but it was an observation i made. i have experience (or lets say bad experience), not on TE, but elsewhere of loosing a lot of money after working for it. so i know you feel cheated. but i don't go around saying that i lost money and thinking that others don't know how it feels to lose money since they did not loose money.

sorry if my post bothered you. but most probably you misunderstood me.
 
6pack said:
@malhotraraul, that post wasn't directed at you, but it was an observation i made. i have experience (or lets say bad experience), not on TE, but elsewhere of loosing a lot of money after working for it. so i know you feel cheated. but i don't go around saying that i lost money and thinking that others don't know how it feels to lose money since they did not loose money.

sorry if my post bothered you. but most probably you misunderstood me.
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losing the money part was example i gave that happened to me & it was experience i had (good or bad)

so now i have experience to atleast advice something on this because i had been to the cops & lawyers regarding this situation.

this is what i am talking EXPERIENCE & not cribbing about money.
 
then I guess I have misunderstood your post # 52

I have a feeling you might not have encountered these issues if you had followed this

If you know(as claimed) to google well, you would have known those answers from having googled already, or cross checked afterwards
 
greenhorn said:
then I guess I have misunderstood your post # 52
I have a feeling you might not have encountered these issues if you had followed this

If you know(as claimed) to google well, you would have known those answers from having googled already, or cross checked afterwards
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you being sarcastic now or what ???
 
sigh. no wonder i like the old times :(

quoted from greenie's link

When you perceive rudeness, try to react calmly. If someone is really acting out, it is very likely a senior person on the list or newsgroup or forum will call him or her on it. If that doesn't happen and you lose your temper, it is likely that the person you lose it at was behaving within the hacker community's norms and you will be considered at fault.
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^^

Yes I read that. And people genuinely recommended him games. Then he asked for DL locations..!
 
I think we need a private subforum for 1337 members :P

And i don't want seniority or anything like that. Pure merit ( reps etc)

Just as something for the newbies to aspire to ;)

as long as there is no incentive for folks to learn/improve their skills, most of them will never do so
 
Why are we still on this discussion?

If all the senior members who took the time out to post their views here just kept posting in the regular threads, it would revive the community.

In fact, the community is not dead you know, it is not even close to being inactive. It is very much alive, with people coming in with their doubts and questions.

If there are people who ask silly questions, the answers to which are obvious and can be found by simple googleing, tell them that. If not, then post your reply and move on. You might just receive a rep for that. If anyone asks for download links, like in that example above, then reprimand that person, give him a warning, infraction, whatever, but show them the rule book once again.

People are not always reading the rules. They need to be shown the rulebook again. What is the harm in doing that. Our highly able moderators are doing their job just fine. Instead of burdening them with more responsibilities, why not make their lives easier by reporting suspicious and ugly posts? We can all contribute that way.

As far as someone losing money in the market section goes, that is very clear in the rules that the website cannot be held accountable for that. For the people who have lost money, stop crying. You knew what you were getting into, you made your decisions, and now there is no point in relegating that blame on anyone else's head, or even being a crusader for justice and retribution. That is not going to help.

Stop discussing about all this, and start posting elsewhere. You might end up saving some person's valuable time with your valuable input.
 
TE'eits are simply heading towards the market and dealer's section as these section attract people, so TE being a technology forum has now heading towards becoming a Market forum rather than what it should be..... That's my take on the current scenario of TE.
 
prabs said:
You guys might want to take a look at this:

http://www.techenclave.com/gaming/suggest-some-new-action-games-my-158800.html#post1409574

A new member suraj.gomani only 3 posts old starts a thread asking people to suggest games and when games are suggested he then asks for download links.

If you want to get rid of the moochers then close the topic and ban the member (permanently) right away.
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Wow... why so much of attitude? Just because someone asked about download links, does that make him a buffoon and you Einstein?

Seriously, I think it is damaging if you ban people for such simple errors.
You can explain it to the guy in thread itself.
No one learns without erring.

Glad you are not a mod here.

Cu,
 
phoenix844884 said:
Why are we still on this discussion?

If all the senior members who took the time out to post their views here just kept posting in the regular threads, it would revive the community.

In fact, the community is not dead you know, it is not even close to being inactive. It is very much alive, with people coming in with their doubts and questions.

If there are people who ask silly questions, the answers to which are obvious and can be found by simple googleing, tell them that. If not, then post your reply and move on. You might just receive a rep for that. If anyone asks for download links, like in that example above, then reprimand that person, give him a warning, infraction, whatever, but show them the rule book once again.

People are not always reading the rules. They need to be shown the rulebook again. What is the harm in doing that. Our highly able moderators are doing their job just fine. Instead of burdening them with more responsibilities, why not make their lives easier by reporting suspicious and ugly posts? We can all contribute that way.

As far as someone losing money in the market section goes, that is very clear in the rules that the website cannot be held accountable for that. For the people who have lost money, stop crying. You knew what you were getting into, you made your decisions, and now there is no point in relegating that blame on anyone else's head, or even being a crusader for justice and retribution. That is not going to help.

Stop discussing about all this, and start posting elsewhere. You might end up saving some person's valuable time with your valuable input.
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did i show you mirror ?

* how many times do you follow the rules ?

* who are you to tell me where to go ?

* this is free country so is this site, it is not talibani site for you to decide nothing ?

* you are only supposed to give your view just like me & everyone else

* if i talk about experience then it is cribbing, senior members who took their time out, what the hell do you mean by that ?

* who did i accuse, name it ?
 
phoenix844884 said:
Why are we still on this discussion?

If all the senior members who took the time out to post their views here just kept posting in the regular threads, it would revive the community.

In fact, the community is not dead you know, it is not even close to being inactive. It is very much alive, with people coming in with their doubts and questions.

If there are people who ask silly questions, the answers to which are obvious and can be found by simple googleing, tell them that. If not, then post your reply and move on. You might just receive a rep for that. If anyone asks for download links, like in that example above, then reprimand that person, give him a warning, infraction, whatever, but show them the rule book once again.

People are not always reading the rules. They need to be shown the rulebook again. What is the harm in doing that. Our highly able moderators are doing their job just fine. Instead of burdening them with more responsibilities, why not make their lives easier by reporting suspicious and ugly posts? We can all contribute that way.

As far as someone losing money in the market section goes, that is very clear in the rules that the website cannot be held accountable for that. For the people who have lost money, stop crying. You knew what you were getting into, you made your decisions, and now there is no point in relegating that blame on anyone else's head, or even being a crusader for justice and retribution. That is not going to help.

Stop discussing about all this, and start posting elsewhere. You might end up saving some person's valuable time with your valuable input.
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FInally somebody woke up and is talking sense..

@ bikey & all the people who have played an amazing role to make TE such an amazing place.. Hats off to u guys.. but then isnt it time to open ur minds n see that people are becoming more accustomed to Tech n stuff than how they were a few years back.. We should be proud that TE has such a large influx of new comers.. maybe they are directionless. maybe they dont know the true netiquettes (by they i would like to include myself too). But hey i guess it doesn take a lot many hours of your lives to correct them. Am sure hardly anybody will be stupid enough to repeat his mistake unless he really wants to make a fool of himself..I have learnt a lot after joining TE. I appreciate everyones effort who has shown me lots of intelligent stuff.. In just about 6 months after joining TE i assembled (i was a noob wrt all this) my own comp (haa. assembled, i have a v. good modded machine now) all thanks to TE.. before that I was that guy who used to rely only on big brands to have a desktop computer. But then again the point is even after learning so much u still have a longway to go..
anyways back to topic, i feel we should just enhance how TE as a community works.. lets try and make it interactive so that people dont just have a look at the deals tonite and logout.. I saw in one of the posts about so many competitions that were being held before.. lets start it again.. and yeah lastly its hightime we shared the loads that the mods have been carrying on since years.. lets share it.. we can all work together to make TE head the right way :hap2:
 
blufox said:
Wow... why so much of attitude? Just because someone asked about download links, does that make him a buffoon and you Einstein?

Seriously, I think it is damaging if you ban people for such simple errors.
You can explain it to the guy in thread itself.
No one learns without erring.

Glad you are not a mod here.

Cu,
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Yes you are correct, the poster can be diplomatically told that such practices are not encouraged. But if he had read the guidelines...

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It would save time and effort of others. And his time too. People genuinely recommended him stuff, then he dropped the bomb. Sure makes him look dumb. If we continue in this manner, then there will be more corrections happening then advice and/or discussions.
 
@blufox: I apologize if you find my comments to be rude but here is an example of a hit and run member anchal.rai till date he/she has only 20 posts. I remember him/her getting banned for asking serial keys. He/She did come back after ban was lifted but I think he/she only posted one comment (which too was useless) and after that disappeared.

So one thing is for sure he/she never joined to contribute and I have a gut feeling that this guy is here for the same thing.

I am not against letting new members in. I have seen a new member called krishnandu trying to contribute with what he can but why let in folks that are here to leech or get invites for torrent sites?
 
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