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what psu would be sufficient for the zotac gtx 460 1 gb gpu ...
my pc specification is given below-
core 2 duo 7200
3 gb ddr2 ram
19 inch lcd
asus p5kvm motherboard
using 2 hard drives in pc of total capacity 1.5 tb.
i do not want to spend more than 3300 inr . previously i had been given suggestion for the corsair vx 450 ....but i cannot spend 3800 inr..
so i want to ask can i use COOLER MASTER 500 watt psu .it is available for 3000inr in nehru place ..can this psu handle the load of my pc + gpu...also one thing i want to make it clear to you i will not be upgrading this rig anymore..this is my final investment:no:
so please suggest me which psu will suit my budget and would offer best performance without harming my system.. :huh::huh:
 
You can go for Corsair CX400 as the load power draw should not exceed ~320-330W ideally

But I'd recommend that you add 400 more to your budget and get a VX450, it has more warranty and more upgrade headroom for HDDs etc. and considering this is your final investment this product will be better for you.
 
no stay away from cm extreme series. If possible get the cm real real power series but imo it will also cost you above 3.5k

BTW why are you hesitating to spend mere 500 bucks more for a lifelong reliable psu?

It will save your systems life and money in long run.

my vote to VX450.
 
i now this is bull but what if its CM extreme Series 650W.. would that be good? I mean sufficient..I didn't knew the forum or any place where i can get advise or sort and this is 2 years back purchase..just asking

eBro
 
iyengar said:
i now this is bull but what if its CM extreme Series 650W.. would that be good? I mean sufficient..I didn't knew the forum or any place where i can get advise or sort and this is 2 years back purchase..just asking
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In layman's terms, that power supply has a poor efficiency, bad components for the internal circuitry, high ripple factor, bloated specifications (Wattage in this case), lesser heatsinks for ICs etc.
 
Desecrator said:
In layman's terms, that power supply has a poor efficiency, bad components for the internal circuitry, high ripple factor, bloated specifications (Wattage in this case), lesser heatsinks for ICs etc.
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I know u have told me this like infinite terms.. but I am just holding on to it as 5K was not easy go money...or in other words i have to stick to present or 4870 series for my 19" monitor

eBro
 
Since its a 650w and you need about 350 max its probably a lesser risk than a extreme 450 would be. 4870 and 460 would probably have similar power consumption , infact the 4870 would overall use more power since its a power hog even at idle.
 
ravipawar sir- please listen to the students in village school in remote part of India in my sig. :P

Please get a VX550 or something better as per requirement. :)

Someone somewhere had said-

He who can't/won't buy/afford good PSU doesn't deserve good GPU. :)

Zloyd said:
Since its a 650w and you need about 350 max its probably a lesser risk than a extreme 450 would be. 4870 and 460 would probably have similar power consumption , infact the 4870 would overall use more power since its a power hog even at idle.
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Please explain your definition/understanding of the risk/s associated with a bad/poor quality PSU. :)
 
Corsair vx450 is most suited PSU for ur config, but if u dont want to spend Rs 200/- more than buy Tagan TG-500-U37 which is perfectly in ur range rather thn cheap CM extreme PSU.
 
Ravi everything else aside the VX450 is worth the few hundred bucks more because it provides cleaner power to all your components and hense they will last longer and its safer the higher the load, 2nd thing its got 5 years warranty. Well worth the extra money just go for it , it is a one time thing and with that your future upgrades are pretty much sorted (unless suddenly you are getting a gtx 480 :P).
 
Also ^^ 3.8k on a VX450 is money well spent - Inside the Coolermaster eP+ PSUs you'd find everything except those which provide clean - efficient power - so is the 800INR savings worth it ? or blowing up a 10k GPU worth it - Only the experienced can tell ... If it was me I'd certainly go for the 450 - Without looking back.

ravipawar21 said:
pegasus sir please first of all learn manners..i have not asked for your suggestion...
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Sir , That was really uncalled for :| No offense intended but I really do feel bad - He was being funny but helpful - I hope you do understand that (No offense again - I hate flame threads showing up)
 
As all have mentioned please try to get at least Corsair VX450W or try Seasonic Bronze 520W(3 years warranty) near @4K.....
 
thanks to all of you for reply..i will be now going for vx 450 and i will try to get a good deal in nehru place...thanks to all once again..

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sorry for being too rude....

and sorry pegasus for what i wrote ...yeah i know you are helpful..:)....b
 
^ No probs. I didn' get offended at all to begin with.

I did read that you had a tight budget and that's why you were trying to save even a few hundred bucks.

But that could have majorly compromised on the quality ofthe PSU you bought.

All i wanted to convey was-

That though the VX450 may easily power the GTX460 too looking at your present setup, it very sincerely recommended to get PSUs that have 2x PCIe connectors for cards that need them.

PSU reliability/durability not only depends on the overall power it can provide but also if it can provide the peak draw from individual power hungry components, in a stable/reliablemanner.

There is a reason i keep stressing/ranting that sometimes some of us try to stretch things a bit too much-

like suggesting VX450 with single pCIe connector for cards that need 2, even if other components may not seem power hungry like C2D/X2 based rigs.

Let's stretch our budget instead and buy ourselves not only a good PSU but some safety and peace of mind too.

Luckily, i found an example in this forum itself.

eg.

Someone tried to run a GTX460 SLI off a Corsair HX1000 (OCed i7+few hDDs+CCFLs, etc)

No sweat right?

Well, he had a 5870 before that and had only 2x PCIe cables connected.

So he thought let's use molex>PCIe convertors for the 2 more i need.

He was cautioned by Sidhu sir and yours truly to do the needful asap

http://www.techenclave.com/show-off/two-gigantic-cyclones-has-been-detected-173479-2.html

He said he had somemore mods lined up soon and will do it then.

No sweat right- it's an HX1000 after all, it can handle so much more.

Well it worked fine for a few days.

Then he had artifacts, blanks screen, coloured screen and what not maybe.

Tried every stability test etc but couldn't pinpoint the issue.

Then he decided to not be lazy and used the native PCIe connectors.

And no problems ever since. :)

(But those issues due to insufficient power or poor connection or whatever or the cause could have eventually damaged GPU components- possible?)

You may also read this thread fully, at least all my posts to understand what i tried to convey.

http://www.techenclave.com/graphic-cards/corsair-450vx-hgih-end-graphics-cards-174251.html

Some people tried to tear off my clothes but i hope it made sense to some. :ashamed:
 
pegasus said:
^ No probs. I didn' get offended at all to begin with.

I did read that you had a tight budget and that's why you were trying to save even a few hundred bucks.

But that could have majorly compromised on the quality ofthe PSU you bought.

All i wanted to convey was-

That though the VX450 may easily power the GTX460 too looking at your present setup, it very sincerely recommended to get PSUs that have 2x PCIe connectors for cards that need them.

PSU reliability/durability not only depends on the overall power it can provide but also if it can provide the peak draw from individual power hungry components, in a stable/reliablemanner.
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The peak would be ~320-330 ideally, even CX400 can provide such power in a very very stable and safe manner.

pegasus said:
There is a reason i keep stressing/ranting that sometimes some of us try to stretch things a bit too much-

like suggesting VX450 with single pCIe connector for cards that need 2, even if other components may not seem power hungry like C2D/X2 based rigs.

Let's stretch our budget instead and buy ourselves not only a good PSU but some safety and peace of mind too.
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Its not always about saving a few hundreds sir, many like me who are not financially independent yet sometimes only have that much.

pegasus said:
Luckily, i found an example in this forum itself.

eg.

Someone tried to run a GTX460 SLI off a Corsair HX1000 (OCed i7+few hDDs+CCFLs, etc)

No sweat right?

Well, he had a 5870 before that and had only 2x PCIe cables connected.

So he thought let's use molex>PCIe convertors for the 2 more i need.

He was cautioned by Sidhu sir and yours truly to do the needful asap

http://www.techenclave.com/show-off/two-gigantic-cyclones-has-been-detected-173479-2.html

He said he had somemore mods lined up soon and will do it then.

No sweat right- it's an HX1000 after all, it can handle so much more.

Well it worked fine for a few days.

Then he had artifacts, blanks screen, coloured screen and what not maybe.

Tried every stability test etc but couldn't pinpoint the issue.

Then he decided to not be lazy and used the native PCIe connectors.

And no problems ever since. :)

(But those issues due to insufficient power or poor connection or whatever or the cause could have eventually damaged GPU components- possible?)

You may also read this thread fully, at least all my posts to understand what i tried to convey.

http://www.techenclave.com/graphic-cards/corsair-450vx-hgih-end-graphics-cards-174251.html

Some people tried to tear off my clothes but i hope it made sense to some. :ashamed:
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Nobody wants to "tear you clothes off", believe me. :)

Sometimes the molex-to-PCIE converter is faulty and that is the reason some incidents happen, lets not generalize things.

School in remote part of India -

Tudents, if you have gfx card with two power socket, you will use?

At least VX550 or any equivalent/better quality PSU with 2x PCIe connectore native or higher as per requirement, masterji.
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Which school and where, if you do not mind me asking?
 
pegasus said:
^ No probs. I didn' get offended at all to begin with.

I did read that you had a tight budget and that's why you were trying to save even a few hundred bucks.

But that could have majorly compromised on the quality of the PSU you bought.

All i wanted to convey was-

That though the VX450 may easily power the GTX460 too looking at your present setup, it very sincerely recommended to get PSUs that have 2x PCIe connectors for cards that need them.

PSU reliability/durability not only depends on the overall power it can provide but also if it can provide the peak draw from individual power hungry components, in a stable/reliable manner.
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Mephistopheles said:
The peak would be ~320-330 ideally, even CX400 can provide such power in a very very stable and safe manner.
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If you replied what you have, after what i had already posted, it indicates you have either not read (/read carefully) or not understood what i said and why i said so.

pegasus said:
There is a reason i keep stressing/ranting that sometimes some of us try to stretch things a bit too much-

like suggesting VX450 with single PCIe connector for cards that need 2, even if other components may not seem power hungry like C2D/X2 based rigs.

Let's stretch our budget instead and buy ourselves not only a good PSU but some safety and peace of mind too.
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Mephistopheles said:
Its not always about saving a few hundreds sir, many like me who are not financially independent yet sometimes only have that much.
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Say VX450 is the most practical buy for someone.

Can you deny there will some who will add that CX400 is ok too.

Then there maybe some who may add VX550 is also a better choice considering it's something meant to last 5 years during which time the rig may see a few upgrades.

Balance. :)

And in this case, the card demands a good PSU with 2x PCIe connectors native.

To ignore that and any probable risk is the sole responsibility of those who suggest it's ok to ignore that and of the one who accepts such advice. :)

pegasus said:
Luckily, i found an example in this forum itself.

eg.

Someone tried to run a GTX460 SLI off a Corsair HX1000 (OCed i7+few hDDs+CCFLs, etc)

No sweat right?

Well, he had a 5870 before that and had only 2x PCIe cables connected.

So he thought let's use molex>PCIe convertors for the 2 more i need.

He was cautioned by Sidhu sir and yours truly to do the needful asap

http://www.techenclave.com/show-off/two-gigantic-cyclones-has-been-detected-173479-2.html

He said he had somemore mods lined up soon and will do it then.

No sweat right- it's an HX1000 after all, it can handle so much more.

Well it worked fine for a few days.

Then he had artifacts, blanks screen, coloured screen and what not maybe.

Tried every stability test etc but couldn't pinpoint the issue.

Then he decided to not be lazy and used the native PCIe connectors.

And no problems ever since. :)

(But those issues due to insufficient power or poor connection or whatever or the cause could have eventually damaged GPU components- possible?)

You may also read this thread fully, at least all my posts to understand what i tried to convey.

http://www.techenclave.com/graphic-cards/corsair-450vx-hgih-end-graphics-cards-174251.html

Some people tried to tear off my clothes but i hope it made sense to some. :ashamed:
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Mephistopheles said:
Nobody wants to "tear you clothes off", believe me. :)

Sometimes the molex-to-PCIE converter is faulty and that is the reason some incidents happen, lets not generalize things.
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So you do agree that it is risky. :)

Just like some who have managed to burn their HDDs using molex>SATA convertors? :)

But you still mind someone suggesting that using convertors is best avoided? :)

Mephistopheles said:
Which school and where, if you do not mind me asking?
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If you take it lightly, may i say same school i hope you had been to. :P

Some people may start thinking i am Corsair rep or something. :ashamed:
 
If you replied what you have, after what i had already posted, it indicates you have either not read (/read carefully) or not understood what i said and why i said so.
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Sorry, but I still don't see anything that I might have overlooked or not understood..I read it again infact twice, maybe I m not that smart and maybe you could explain it more?

If you take it lightly, may i say same school i hope you had been to
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The school I went to had a teacher who did not know how to use the internet properly, forget equipment like VX550 and terms like GPU, PCIE Connectors :P

BTW you are missing a "s" in your signature, before "tudents"

So you do agree that it is risky.
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There is negligible risk with the process of using a molex-to-PCIE converter, but loose connections, poor quality converters etc. increase the risk of damage
 
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