PC Peripherals which stabilizer for APC 1KVA ?

[sam000]

I have a BR1000-IN which is going kaput at an alarming rate even the APC guys are pulling their hair's out they dont know what is wrong they come and check everything on my side and say their is nothing wrong and when i say its their fault they do not accept it saying the failiure rate is too high so they replace my unit every time this has happened like 5 times in 15 months 9 more months to go...:rofl:.

A lot of times i see powerchute telling this i dont know what this is:

when it was showing this the volts were like this:

Just a short while later i snapped this it was still showing " your batterybackup is providing avr boost"

Just a day before i saw 254V on powerchute.Right now its showing 202V only but no avr boost message:S.

So are my volts like bad:huh: should i get a stabilizer:huh: if yes can i go for this one V guard digi-100 3A costs close to Rs 3000:

http://www.vguard.in/imgUpload/pdf/12/Digital_Stabilizer.pdf

 

[adder]

well if u see ur apc going to back up mode frequently then u can get a stabilizer like digi100.

 

[sam000]

^^My event viewer shows this:

IS this normal :huh:

 

[adder]

^^My event viewer shows this:

IS this normal :huh:

well it looks like their is lots of voltage fluctuation,hence its going to avr frequently.

 

[sam000]

Ok so i can go ahead and get the Vguard digi 100:huh:.I will go and get it once i get the green light reply please its urgent.

 

[adder]

Ok so i can go ahead and get the Vguard digi 100:huh:.I will go and get it once i get the green light reply please its urgent.

well the digi 100 can handle a load of 660watts or 690watts.ur apc can handle a load of 600watts,so ur fine with the digi 100.
but whats ur pc configurations,what are all the device connected to the UPS.chances are that ur pc won't consume more then 300watts or 350watts with the monitor ,modem.

 

[sam000]

well the digi 100 can handle a load of 660watts or 690watts.ur apc can handle a load of 600watts,so ur fine with the digi 100.
but whats ur pc configurations,what are all the device connected to the UPS.chances are that ur pc won't consume more then 300watts or 350watts with the monitor ,modem.

Yes my consumption is less than 200Watts here is my config:

E2180@2.7 GHZ

ABIT 1P35-E

Seagate 500GB

2X1 GB Transcend 800MHZ

1X1 GB Transcend 800MHZ

Samsung 22X dvd writer

MSI HD4850

Corsair VX450

ALTEC LANSINS VS4121

G5 LASER MOUSE

17" LG CRT

 

[adder]

well i don't think u connect the altec to back up,if so u are even fine with the VG crystal 2A model.but the DIGI 100 should be fine incase u plan on adding other components.
adding a lcd monitor like 22 or 24" will consume lesser power.

 

[g2]

2X1 GB Transcend 800MHZ

1X1 GB Transcend 800MHZ

17" LG CRT

Why the mismatch. Wont 2x1GB dual channel be better.

BTW I also have 17 LG CRT. It draws ~70W & a 22" LCD <40W.

Wanna get 1 of those, but every time I decide I run out of money

 

[ev1lb0ygen1us]

seems like vx450 have some problem with APC

 

[sam000]

well i don't think u connect the altec to back up,if so u are even fine with the VG crystal 2A model.but the DIGI 100 should be fine incase u plan on adding other components.
adding a lcd monitor like 22 or 24" will consume lesser power.

The VG crystal model its not for PC in think cause DIGI 100 mentions PC but not the crystal.

Why the mismatch. Wont 2x1GB dual channel be better.

BTW I also have 17 LG CRT. It draws ~70W & a 22" LCD <40W.
Wanna get 1 of those, but every time I decide I run out of money

I bought the the 1 GB stick cause it was a "powerchip" it OC to 1000MHZ
@ 5-4-4-15 .The 2 GB one does not OC at all:'(.I have 2 more 17 inch onitors lying around i should have gone for the LCD ones:bangin:

seems like vx450 have some problem with APC

I do not think so sir you are talking about the PFC & pure sine wave thing right?.I asked Ramguy he himself said no issue will arise except for the buzzing.The first unit worked well for over 6 months no problem only the replacements are going kaput within days:O

This is my event viewer now seems like i am having a lot of undervoltage thats why APC is providing AVR boost.The AVR trim that i say recently was triggered as i have set the powerchute to intervene at 252 + i have set it to
270 now no AVR TRIM observed now:bounce:

 

[TinyJoe]

I have a BR1000-IN which is going kaput at an alarming rate even the APC guys are pulling their hair's out they dont know what is wrong they come and check everything on my side and say their is nothing wrong and when i say its their fault they do not accept it saying the failiure rate is too high so they replace my unit every time this has happened like 5 times in 15 months 9 more months to go...:rofl:.

A lot of times i see powerchute telling this i dont know what this is:

when it was showing this the volts were like this:

Just a short while later i snapped this it was still showing " your batterybackup is providing avr boost"

Just a day before i saw 254V on powerchute.Right now its showing 202V only but no avr boost message:S.

So are my volts like bad:huh: should i get a stabilizer:huh: if yes can i go for this one V guard digi-100 3A costs close to Rs 3000:

http://www.vguard.in/imgUpload/pdf/12/Digital_Stabilizer.pdf

You should consider investing in a Smart UPS, it might resolve your problem. The Back UPS RS's aren't very strong UPS nor power stabilizers. The Smart UPSs are much better at power filtering and backup. They're much more expensive but they also offer much better protection.

Take a look maybe at something like a SUA1000I or a SUA1500I. Both those units would be much better than the BR1000I.

T

 

[kishore.chander]

Sam000, come on dude... APC are pretty reliable folks and it really works well with under voltage & high voltage... I had a microtek 0.6 KVA bought in 2003 for my older system and it handled low & high voltage very well :clap:and guess what i have connected to my TV now. When microtek could work why not APC????????:huh:

Dont bang your head to find out for a good stabilizer. If you still consider going in for a stabilizer then go for a normal stabilizer.

The normal stabilizer would try to boost the voltage and try to give a constant voltage as much as it can and from there the APC will take care of it. I would say investing 3K on a stabilizer is of waste.

Do one thing get a 4kva AC stabilizer with double boost which cost some where around 3-4 k have an electrician to supply the line for the entire room in which you have your computer. Then you can connect your APC which might not see many fluctuations as before.

Another thing that you have to look for is setting the powerchute properly. Set the battery back up to kick in at the least possible voltage rather than setting it at 202 volt. I am not sure whether BR1000I has that facility.

I own a APC smart UPS1000UXI and it does avr boost and trim without a hitch.

Once again do not bother much about the stabilizer, try to go with any ordinary stabilizer which will do the preliminary job to filter the voltage fluctuations and then on your UPS will handle the rest....

Just let me know or give me your contact# i will give you a call and explain you. Even i am in chennai. PM me your mobile# i shall talk to you:cool2:

 

[mjumrani]

though voltage fluctuations in my area are very rare, but when they do happen my ups goes berserk, especially when all the ACs in the house are switched on.

i got tired of this so this is what i did.

in voltage menu increased the "if ac utility voltage goes above" option to 262 volts and decreased the "if ac utility voltage goes below" option to 198 volts (there was a time when i decreased this one to 190 volts for 2 weeks).

though some might say this is not safe, but to counter that i have kept ups sensitivity at high it keeps the voltage distortions that reaches the computer minimal.(in sensitivity menu, you can also keep it at medium if problems continue, BUT do not keep it at low)

i have had no problems, besides the one where the battery went weak, though it still provided backup. APC will always replace the ups in this case. my ups has never gone kaput.

you can try this out if you wish

 

[sam000]

You should consider investing in a Smart UPS, it might resolve your problem. The Back UPS RS's aren't very strong UPS nor power stabilizers. The Smart UPSs are much better at power filtering and backup. They're much more expensive but they also offer much better protection.
Take a look maybe at something like a SUA1000I or a SUA1500I. Both those units would be much better than the BR1000I.

T

Smart series not in my budget dude :no:.

Sam000, come on dude... APC are pretty reliable folks and it really works well with under voltage & high voltage... I had a microtek 0.6 KVA bought in 2003 for my older system and it handled low & high voltage very well :clap:and guess what i have connected to my TV now. When microtek could work why not APC????????:huh:

I know dude thats why i purchased APC in the first place but no one seems to kn ow the reason why my APC is going kaput so fast including APC.Thats why i thought of buysing a stabilizer.

Dont bang your head to find out for a good stabilizer. If you still consider going in for a stabilizer then go for a normal stabilizer.

The normal stabilizer would try to boost the voltage and try to give a constant voltage as much as it can and from there the APC will take care of it. I would say investing 3K on a stabilizer is of waste.

Do one thing get a 4kva AC stabilizer with double boost which cost some where around 3-4 k have an electrician to supply the line for the entire room in which you have your computer. Then you can connect your APC which might not see many fluctuations as before.

Another thing that you have to look for is setting the powerchute properly. Set the battery back up to kick in at the least possible voltage rather than setting it at 202 volt. I am not sure whether BR1000I has that facility.

I own a APC smart UPS1000UXI and it does avr boost and trim without a hitch.

Once again do not bother much about the stabilizer, try to go with any ordinary stabilizer which will do the preliminary job to filter the voltage fluctuations and then on your UPS will handle the rest....

Just let me know or give me your contact# i will give you a call and explain you. Even i am in chennai. PM me your mobile# i shall talk to you:cool2:

Thanks for the advise i was about to get a servo based stabilizer but decided not to get onehyeah:.I bought a DIGI 100 instead .

though voltage fluctuations in my area are very rare, but when they do happen my ups goes berserk, especially when all the ACs in the house are switched on.
i got tired of this so this is what i did.

in voltage menu increased the "if ac utility voltage goes above" option to 262 volts and decreased the "if ac utility voltage goes below" option to 198 volts (there was a time when i decreased this one to 190 volts for 2 weeks).

though some might say this is not safe, but to counter that i have kept ups sensitivity at high it keeps the voltage distortions that reaches the computer minimal.(in sensitivity menu, you can also keep it at medium if problems continue, BUT do not keep it at low)

i have had no problems, besides the one where the battery went weak, though it still provided backup. APC will always replace the ups in this case. my ups has never gone kaput.

you can try this out if you wish

Aaah i reduced it to 195V for low voltage cut off while i have set 252V as the high voltage cut off and the sensitivity was set at "medium" i now set it to "high" like you said.

After connecting V-GUARD digi the event viewer is not showing undervoltage and overvoltage readings but its registering a lot of blackout :S.The blackout happens whenevr i hear this "click" from the DIGI 100 the APC goes into Battery mode for a second or two then becomes normal whats happening here :huh:.

Here is my Event viewer after connecting the DIGI 100:

 

[mjumrani]

try doing what i said without the stabilizer...