superczar
Keymaster
I won't comment on apps
Some people will say just the reverse and its quite subjective.
My own take on this is that I like the app selection on both platforms and both have their pros and cons (which is one of the primary reasons i continue to use two phones despite both being dual sim)
Regarding file system, I am not sure if your experience is based from a very long time ago.
For some reason, the prevalent wisdom on the interwebs seems to also suggest a similar line of thought.
However , and completely to the contrary, This is one element where I actually find my android lacking today.
For a long time now, I have the exact same desktop/ documents/ downloads folder on my phone , tablet, laptop and desktop (both win and mac).
To illustrate with an example, say i download an attachment from gmail on my phone (iOS) and save it in the documents>April 2025 folder on the phone
The same attachment will now be available in the documents>april 2025 folder on all other devices
Similarly, if I for example edited and saved an excel file on my laptop desktop folder
and realize that i need to send it to someone after some time, i can do it from my phone outlook (click attach, browse file -> desktop and select the file)
And while the file system management on android is not bad either, it would take a lot of work to replicate (if at all) a truly seamless setup like the one i have on the ios side
Similarly for saving/retrieving something from say a NAS / smb folder on my network, I can do it natively on iOS.
While I can do the same on android, i would still need to hunt for the right 3rd party app to do this (which will either be paid or ad based)
Ios for now, reason? Might sound weird but i like the colours of the pictures taken with the iphone camera lol.
Other than that, security and no bloatware.
The only android that seems appealing to me is the galaxy series, specially those ultra models with all the ai stuff and that pencil-ish device that comes with it. But those models are so big, like a brick in the face.
Other than that, security and no bloatware.
The only android that seems appealing to me is the galaxy series, specially those ultra models with all the ai stuff and that pencil-ish device that comes with it. But those models are so big, like a brick in the face.
Pyception
Forerunner
Emi is a thing if you’re dedicated enough. Also there are some resellers in ncr which provide you used iPhones at a very reasonable price. Some of them even got warranty.
Also on a side note, if someone near me is selling a phone for lets say 100 and i post it here for 105, without actually owing it but rather trying to sell it indirectly, would that be against the guidelines?
Only thing holding me off is 120 hz. Although, the lack of a file manager is perpetual comedy. Also I'm not even sure whether T9 dialling is still a thing on iphones. Last time it was not. Also also, google assistant or gemini they call it now, any similar thing available on iphones which will trigger with a button press? Another also, flawless voice recognition through gboard on android for my native language, i guess that will be missing too. For a smooth reliable experience there's too many things missing it seems.
chocowaffle
Beginner
People asking my why I hate Apple and its ecosystem? THIS , right here is the reason why I ****ing loathe it. I had to debug some issues on our Kubernetes setup, and wanted to spin up some containers locally to debug env issues, and guess what? my Docker installation which has been borked for months (didnt bother fixing it before, since I dont typically work with DevOps), is still borked and unlike Windows which assumes I am wearing my big boy pants, according to Apple, I am a ****ing baby in diapers.
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SirMatterNot
Beginner
Exactly. We might make bad decisions and get our devices blown up mining crypto, but we paid for the right to make those bad decisions. 
superczar
Keymaster
While its a quasi legitimate concern, windows malware blocker also does the same. And its a lot more bothersome if you need to over ride it.
Anyway, If the app/ script/whatever is not malware and you do want to run it, you just need to go to settings> security and you will see a list of apps that have been blocked - with an option to override said block.
Since you mentioned you do debugging, also read up about the xattr terminal command and the flags to remove quarantine flags.
on a side note, while it is right to criticize ios (and also android) for the limitations they pose for power users, Mac OS is objectively more flexible and way less “my way or the highway” than windows
mayank4823
Forerunner
Just follow the rule of "click the pic of phone with your username and today's date" and make sure the device is in the condition u mention". There's nothing wrong in that in my opinion. People must be doing it already, of course they won't say. But if it doesn't harm the buyer and the buyer feels it's a fair price, whats the harm ?
I will need to understand how this works without icloud.
True, but there is solid explorer.
yeah, latest experience is around iPhone X-ish for me
you dont need iOS for it, a simple SMB server like you said below, or even gdrive/onedrive sync will be more than enough for this usecase, GDrive is natively integrated, OneDrive you might need to install the app
not really, I detailed this above, unless you can give a specific usecase, I cant really respond whether its feasible or not
yeah, SMB is not natively supported by Google Files, Google really should improve their files app, on Solid, I have my seedboxes, Gdrive shared accounts, personal GDrive etc all connected and its seamless. but if you are using a third party flavor of Android with their own files app, I think they do support this out of the box? not sure, been a while since I used anything but stock android, Motorola has smart connect which has SMB built in for e.g
nah, Defender is very easy to fix, click on the notification, it'll open the window with the blocking info, just click on a button to add an exception and thats about it.
I'm not gonna try xattr to fix a simple mis-reported bug, since its work laptop, I dont really mess around with file system or anything, but I'm fairly certain it might not work because I explicitly allowed docker through settings and apple was still flagging it.
in what way? genuinely curious, after WSL2, it really grates me to use MacOS in any capacity,
mayank4823
Forerunner
You should then buy the product first, click the picture and then make a sale thread here.
Thats what i was confused about. Thanks!
We can root iphone as well, cant we?
Heisen
Herald
Both systems have their pros and cons, and users of each have found solutions to the problems they encounter. Sometimes, the solution in one system might be better than in the other and vice versa.
However, when users of one system try to force themselves to adapt to the other, they often end up dissatisfied. This is usually due to familiarity bias, they’re used to how their original system works, and everything else feels unintuitive or frustrating by comparison.
This is why I often tell people: use the system that best suits your specific task. There’s no rule that says you have to commit entirely to just one. In fact, it’s usually smarter to keep both and use them where they shine.
For example. I sometimes have a niche requirement: I need to communicate with a microcontroller via USB serial on my phone. On iOS, this simply isn't possible the system isn’t designed for that kind of low-level access. On Android, though, it’s a breeze.
But despite this, I’m not switching entirely to Android. Why? Because there are features and advantages that iOS offers which I would genuinely miss.
So my solution is: use both. I don’t want my primary personal phone, where I store photos and videos of my family, handle my banking, work-related tasks, and personal life, to also be cluttered with utility apps like “Serial USB Terminal.” Keeping those activities separate helps me stay organized and sane.
For some people, one system does everything they need, and that’s completely fine. The issue only arises when people start wondering, “Why would anyone pay more for the other system if mine can do the same thing for less?” That’s a limited way of thinking. Everyone has different needs, priorities, and workflows.
The real key is understanding your own use case and that others might have different ones, they are ready to give up on some of the pros of one system over the pros of the other system, because those have higher priority in their books.
However, when users of one system try to force themselves to adapt to the other, they often end up dissatisfied. This is usually due to familiarity bias, they’re used to how their original system works, and everything else feels unintuitive or frustrating by comparison.
This is why I often tell people: use the system that best suits your specific task. There’s no rule that says you have to commit entirely to just one. In fact, it’s usually smarter to keep both and use them where they shine.
For example. I sometimes have a niche requirement: I need to communicate with a microcontroller via USB serial on my phone. On iOS, this simply isn't possible the system isn’t designed for that kind of low-level access. On Android, though, it’s a breeze.
But despite this, I’m not switching entirely to Android. Why? Because there are features and advantages that iOS offers which I would genuinely miss.
So my solution is: use both. I don’t want my primary personal phone, where I store photos and videos of my family, handle my banking, work-related tasks, and personal life, to also be cluttered with utility apps like “Serial USB Terminal.” Keeping those activities separate helps me stay organized and sane.
For some people, one system does everything they need, and that’s completely fine. The issue only arises when people start wondering, “Why would anyone pay more for the other system if mine can do the same thing for less?” That’s a limited way of thinking. Everyone has different needs, priorities, and workflows.
The real key is understanding your own use case and that others might have different ones, they are ready to give up on some of the pros of one system over the pros of the other system, because those have higher priority in their books.
The last easy to use jailbreak was for iOS v16.5, so doesn't apply to any recent iPhones. One of the reasons I use the iPhone is for the most recent security patches, so any kind of jailbreak and rooting negates that.
I had my time when I used to root my Android phones on purchase and post custom ROMs on XDA, but one eventually grows out of it when life takes over. I still have my Android devices rooted and sideload numerous apps on it but none of my Android devices are linked to my personal account or have banking apps on them.
i never jailbreaked any kind of phone myself, i just thought we can jailbreak any phone be it andriod or ios by plugging it to laptop/pc. From the security pov of ios i thought we cannot access the data if we jailbreak a locked phone, guess i was wrong.
Heisen
Herald
You were right. These devices can not be jailbroken despite having a tool for them, if they are in their regular locked state. The phone needs to be unlocked first. So security wise iOS is still solid.
