CPU/Mobo Why Asrock boards aint recommended

[Aces170]

Huh, didnt get your point. On the last line you say you get only 6-7k for your P3 (highly unlikely ), whereas in the first line you say ROI. I dont calculate my ROI on a PC, nor do I wanna sell my PC at dirt cheap prices, so I find alternate uses for them, which have become very imp for me now. Also its nice to have a backup PC incase of an emergency.

 

[KHUBBU]

My cousin bro has an asrock 865 Mobo with a p4 2.4HT on it. Its been running @3.2Ghz for the past 1yr with no probs whatsoever.

However, ASUS has a rep and a service to back it up..so i wud definitely go for an ASUS anytime (actually i am..next month).

what temp reading does MBM give on this mobo. Also is ur cousin using a gfx card also.

Asrock mobo are bad bcoz they make modification in the basic chipset to give extra features like agp slot and newer pci slot on a lower price. For eg a pci 16x card uses less than 8x so they convert another slot to pci ex slot. Along with it they impose a lot of restrictions on the gfx card suppported by the mobo. the support list on their site is never updated.

My Asrock P465GV which unfortunately came bundled with My zenith PC runs hot as reported MBM, Speed FAn, and also by Sisoft Snadra - about 70 C.
Most of the Asrock Mobos are Micro ATX and are suited for entry level Pcs not a powerhouse.

I have tried to overclock my 2.8 HT to 3 GHz mainly thru FSB increment, coz thats the only option available, it was ok but i changed it back bcoz of the high temp reported by these softwares.

Although the air blown out does not seem to be so hot, but this is a thing not to be taken lightly.

And one more thing I wud like to know is that if the capacitors ( I hope I'm right in calling those things as capacitors) on the mobo , I mean the top of it is not exactly flat but slightly curved upwards, does that mean my mobo is on its last leg and capacitor may leak any time/ is getting heated up too much, coz thats what one of the local hardware person told me and my mobo has atleast 2 such capacitors one near the PCi slots and another near the heatsink.

 

[Viking]

Huh, didnt get your point. On the last line you say you get only 6-7k for your P3 (highly unlikely ), whereas in the first line you say ROI. I dont calculate my ROI on a PC, nor do I wanna sell my PC at dirt cheap prices, so I find alternate uses for them, which have become very imp for me now. Also its nice to have a backup PC incase of an emergency.

Dude so how much u guys are getting, for ur old pc pentium III , in my locale u cud

get a dozen for 7k including monitor hdd et al...., but dude my question was

dont u think that the way prices drop especially in hardware market..., Even if u

get hold of a mobo good for 2 years its bang for bucks as almost asrock sells at

2/3rd rates or half rates then their asus counter part cud buy another new

upgraded 1 when ur prior 1s conked off as atleast they give 2 years warranty

and thats the only REASON i feel why we dont feel like upgrading soon, as we

invest a lotta money into tech which is sure to be OBSELETE by tom , thus

psychologically get bogged down by the idea of upgrading soon and get

attached to our machines unnecessarily howsoever what i think is if a mobo

holds good for 2years its passed the test of TECHNOLOGY. In technology

vintage has no place only the period till u keep up with the latest science is

required, thats my underlining thought why pay huge bucks for original intel or

asus when guys like asrock can get the thing done, otherwise this same quality
professing companys will back stab u with their changing slot design or pin

design and stuff like from 478 to lga for intel , thus if some company like asus

also gives me the promise of non-redundancy of their boards and then charges
me a bomb , On the name of quality , i am ready to do so, but they wont and

stab u back by the time u open the new hardware from its packing .., they

come up with a new better tech with a new design which will make ur stuff

obselete for still more 4 years to come , aint it funny long lasting obselete

tech anybody willing to buy, yes all of us

 

[Blade_Runner]

Nah vicky u got it all wrong mate. The price you pay is firstly for performance and features. Now depends on how you percieve performance. For you an app running a second or two might b ok, but for some others thats not done. They want faster rigs all the time. Also imagine you can OC your rig a bit and extract a bit of more performance from it, so the high cost of the mobo is negated.

So if you want more performance, features etc u pay more. If such features and all wud be offered at a lower price ppl wud promptly buy that. Also obsoleteness and such is never a criteria to consider when goin out to buy the best h/w. Get the stuff that gets your work done in the most efficient and least painful manner.

PS: Punctuations mate Start using fullstops

 

[Kumar]

Another thing is a PC is the thing with THE WORST resale value.You buy a PC with
your requirements in mind,not the resale value.

 

[Viking]

Nah vicky u got it all wrong mate. The price you pay is firstly for performance and features. Now depends on how you percieve performance. For you an app running a second or two might b ok, but for some others thats not done. They want faster rigs all the time. Also imagine you can OC your rig a bit and extract a bit of more performance from it, so the high cost of the mobo is negated.

So if you want more performance, features etc u pay more. If such features and all wud be offered at a lower price ppl wud promptly buy that. Also obsoleteness and such is never a criteria to consider when goin out to buy the best h/w. Get the stuff that gets your work done in the most efficient and least painful manner.

PS: Punctuations mate Start using fullstops

But i have learnt from u tech guys only that 939 pin better than 754 pin set,
and lga is better than 478 pin , even always go for pci xpress and not agp , and the reason quoted.... that in all the former cases its future proof and thats what an end user perceives tech. I dont want to be saddled with stuff
which is performing well but aint able to play hl2 or farcry ,
gosh ibviously so i am going to see its future sustainability before my investment decreases its value exponentially, yes i did like ur 1 fundamental though " get the stuff that
gets ur work dun " .Yep except graphics whats the use of all this fast machines, and that idiot norton av with all its new version always relegates my new rig to the kind of slowness i was experiencing priorly
and even microsoft comes with a memory leaking os , of theirs to fill in the lacunae of our faster rigs, its kinda :no: :no: thay were jus waiting to make us slow.
Believe me i still like my old p-2 lappy working on 128 mb ram and running only win 2000 and xp office and ofcourse k-lite codec pack
,,, I can do all my essential stuff except gaming........... So on this note why cant these big firms come up with some fixed road map and stick to a unified
road map or have only add on things ,(heres where i like asrock, they always respect their clients money and so always keep a leeway for future upgradation......Unlike their intel or msi or asus counterparts).

Thus we dont become guniea pigs of their changing designs and then cud stick on to 1 tech for say atleast 3-4 years.
:clap: :clap: :hap2: :cool2:

 

[Blade_Runner]

But i have learnt from u tech guys only that 939 pin better than 754 pin set,

and lga is better than 478 pin , even always go for pci xpress and not agp , and the reason quoted.... that in all the former cases its future proof and thats what an end user perceives tech. I dont want to be saddled with stuff

which is performing well but aint able to play hl2 or farcry ,

Yeah but then you forgot that not all people want gaming. As matter of fact the % of gamers and enthusiasts is only less than 5-10% anywhere, these are the people who get the latest and the best; doesn't mean that you need to follow suit.

gosh ibviously so i am going to see its future sustainability before my investment decreases its value exponentially, yes i did like ur 1 fundamental though " get the stuff that

gets ur work dun " .Yep except graphics whats the use of all this fast machines,

There are uses believe me. You and me dont have them doesnt others too don't . 3d rendering, encoding, decoding (try playing some h.264 media), and frankly speaking some newer office suites and apps require atleast 256Mb ram. So like i said take two things into consideration your requirements and budget. I forgot to mention budget in my last post as it is also one of the deciding factors.

and that idiot norton av with all its new version always relegates my new rig to the kind of slowness i was experiencing priorly

and even microsoft comes with a memory leaking os , of theirs to fill in the lacunae of our faster rigs, its kinda :no: :no: thay were jus waiting to make us slow.

LOl i knda agree with that. More M$ OS usage over time = More degraded Performance.

Believe me i still like my old p-2 lappy working on 128 mb ram and running only win 2000 and xp office and ofcourse k-lite codec pack

,,, I can do all my essential stuff except gaming........... So on this note why cant these big firms come up with some fixed road map and stick to a unified

road map or have only add on things ,(heres where i like asrock, they always respect their clients money and so always keep a leeway for future upgradation......Unlike their intel or msi or asus counterparts).

Thus we dont become guniea pigs of their changing designs and then cud stick on to 1 tech for say atleast 3-4 years.

:clap: :clap: :hap2: :cool2:

Hehe you would also like to know that the same mobo that helps you uograde from s754 to s939 needs a special add on that cost arnd 1.5-2k and as a matter of fact that add-on isnt even available in india. So the cross compatibilty feature is just a sham imo. Also adding the 2k or so to the already 4k price of the mobo makes the price arnd 6k and adding 500 more you can get a Asus a8n-e which will mow down this mobo in terms of performance and features.And i'll reiterate that if you need cheaper alternative to s939 get s754..... still cheaper get Sempron.

One more thing is if someone can afford say a 7-9k processor can also afford a similarly priced mobo. However its shameful that most PC users don't consider the motherboard as an important component of their PC and settle for cheap and unreliable brands.

 

[Quad Master]

Lolz i thought this was a thread or discussion on Asrock mobos.
Its has turned into a discussion of Various Sockets for Intel and AMD Mobo's
Discussions abt PCI-E x16 & AGP Cards.
Laptops having which OS.

Etc..............

 

[Aces170]

One way I look for whe I buy a PC, is that I expect a zero Resale value for it, and its near truth. Regarding a P3 going for 6-7k is weird cause I was just getting a measly 1000 bucks for my perfect working P2 with 128 mb RAM, Cd Rom Drive and a 6.4 gb HDD. So I thought that definitely its not worth selling outdated hardware so why not utilize it as say a download bot. And it works perfect for some time, but then my crappy Jetway mobo starts giving probs ( incidentally not the first time.) So I realize the importance of the quality of mobo.

Let me put it to you in a diff way :

Year is 2003 you buy a comp with say Asus A7n8x non dlx which used to cost 6k odd, or buy a cheap Asrock for 2.5k. Year 2006 you wanna a complete re-haul and the resale value of your comp is near Nil, you buy a new comp. Lets just say during your assignments, or a project deadline your comp starts behaving up, but fear not the old comp is always there, imagine to your horror if you realise even the old comps mobo is conked because you used a cheap Asrock mobo to save 3.5k, also now your old computer is completely useless as Socket A mobos are rare and come at a premium certainly not worth for a backup comp.