CPU/Mobo Why not AMD ?

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multifaced

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Hi,

i am planning to upgrade my pc or build new one soon. based on some research, almost finalized Phenom || X2 550 BE. 80% usage CAD applications like CATIA and analysis softwares. rest browsing. so far i was using only Intel systems. now i m thinking why not AMD ?

my friends recommended not to go with AMD, just because it is cheap. according to them, some softwares may not work the way they are expected with AMD, even though there are no reasonings. and they never worked with an AMD system before.

i dont know why this mind set with ppl, i could not find any reference in net which says that some softwares doesnt work with AMD. so i need your help in this regard. do you know any case where a particular software not worked with AMd or misbehaved ?
 
multifaced said:
Hi,

i am planning to upgrade my pc or build new one soon. based on some research, almost finalized Phenom || X2 550 BE. 80% usage CAD applications like CATIA and analysis softwares. rest browsing. so far i was using only Intel systems. now i m thinking why not AMD ?

my friends recommended not to go with AMD, just because it is cheap. according to them, some softwares may not work the way they are expected with AMD, even though there are no reasonings. and they never worked with an AMD system before.

i dont know why this mind set with ppl, i could not find any reference in net which says that some softwares doesnt work with AMD. so i need your help in this regard. do you know any case where a particular software not worked with AMd or misbehaved ?
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Softwares misbehaving with AMD cpus - Sorry never heard before.

Give ur friends a whacking in the head for giving misleading information.

Go with AMD (noobish question's noobish answer is yes all softwares work with AMD cpus)

No problem with AMD
 
^.. + 1... Kick his butt... :p AMD has no trouble running software....

Only Intel fanboi's resort to this or absolute noobs... :rofl:
 
Anubis said:
Go with AMD (noobish question's noobish answer is yes all softwares work with AMD cpus)
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Thank you for your reply, even i know the question is somewhat stupid. logically and a program cannot be processor dependent. and forgive my frnds, they are programmers just like me, but not much hardware knowledge. but atleast i had the guts to ask why not AMD. :)
 
this is the mindset of many people sadly, based because of lack of knowledge and wrong info peddling by sellers for their profit.

softwares run on the OS which runs on the hardware such as CPU.So a software may be incompatible with an OS but not with a CPU.

and i am not surprised to see such a question being asked, as many of my college mates have asked such silly questions regarding AMD before.

Good for you that you decided to know for yourself before going for the system.

I had been an intel user for the past 3 years and am now shifting base to AMD myself.

Right now for a normal user AMD is the best bang for buck
 
Good thing u got clarified on this. Got hrough other threads on what are the main technical differences between the two. Also make a wise choice while choosing the other components(motherboard, ram, powersupply) etc...
 
What I recommend is look at CPU charts, and look at price(indian) v/s performance
and then just buy irrespective of brand.
I am have an Top end Phenom II with 4870 graphics card, runs like charm.
 
i had issues with softwares working on intel cpus----the p4 prescott series

amd ripped thru red hat linux when my stupid intel p4 refused to run it--things have changed but amd is a very good and stable platform to build a pc on....i have been using amd for over 6 years now and would continue using it.......the other load of rubbish i've heard is amd overhating and the fan being in-effective----which was true 10-12 years back not any more now
 
Okay I have used

Pentium 133/Pentium II 266/PIII 700 (Celeron for 3 months)/AMD Semptron followed by immediately upgrading to AMD Athlon 64/Athlon 7750 (based on phenom architecture) and plan to upgrade to Phenom II x3 soon.

I have had no problems with AMD whatsoever wrt HW/SW etc. In fact as a general user I would say AMD offers better value. Moreover the BE of AMD can be overclocked or under clocked nicely (yes intel ones do too) - but for the price you pay AMD is leagues ahead. Yes for the power user Intel might be up there but I see no reason to spend a ton of money to do casual search, MS office or even do some hardcore woek on 3d applications etc. Intel does offer faster encoding etc but marginal.

PS: I am not a AMD fanboy but I stand by the value it offers anyday.:clap:
 
There are many optimization instruction sets/other instructions like for example SSE 4 or AMD 3DNow that are specific to only one camp. So an app designed to utilize such instruction sets may run poorly on the other platform.

In most cases software developers try to optimize their apps for both platforms by using such instruction sets from both camps, but this is not always the case with every software. If you enter the world of programming tools, there are many software that are Intel or AMD specific.

However a general user does not need to worry about this as all of his typical software will run fine. It is also true that AMD processors had compatibility problems during the K6-2 to Athlon XP era when they had to stop reverse engg Intel processors and start building their own CPU architectures, but those problems are things of the past. You will be able to run any general software/game without issues.
 
starky said:
In fact as a general user I would say AMD offers better value.
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yes, for a general user there wont be much difference in behavior.

even though the behavior of most programs are similar in different processors, there definitely a difference in the way they execute on them. because there are some difference in instruction sets with different architecture. in that case a compiler designed for a particular architecture will always optimize the program execution for that possessor.

refer the links,

Do Intel and AMD processor have the same assembler? - Stack Overflow

Intel compiler and AMD processors

thats the reason why high end program development houses always stick to a specific processors for their development environment. Also they recommend same configuration for application users too. see the "system requirement" instruction from CAD/CAM or Analysis application vendors.
 
My first CPU was an Intel Celeron 466 Mhz, then have had two AMD processors, 2400+ and 4200+ and both have given exceptional service and great value for the money spent; never had any issues with any application not running...given a choice I would still replace my present AMD with another faster AMD. :hap2:
 
Go for a AMD cpu man, who said to you that software misbehaved because of cpu's, no it never can be,it depends on your OS, in india its like 1 person ask to other what cpu do you have they say intel then the other says i will also buy,they don't trust any other band except intel its not there mistake(for a normal user) i think you got reviews about AMD cpu's on this thread so go ahead
 
I heard from a cousin of mine who is a mech engineer some yrs back that AMD proccessors dont run certain engineering applications ( something similar to CAD or CAD itself). But those are the days when only 1% of the people or even less than that are aware of AMD and AMD was much backward from INTEL.

But i doubt that the same situation prevails today. I hope that todays AMD proccys will be able to run all the apps..
 
i tell you what...

engineering courses are about 8085 8086 and p1 at max... and other controllers related to their design.

current gen architectures and instruction set related to them are not yet part of any standard course ...atleast not offered by mumbai university.

my friends who have completed BE can not assemble a computer, they do not understand different parameters involved about different components....

but when they receive an email about core-i7 ..they start praising how great intel is for futuristic sci-fi 8core processor (although its 8 threads)...

these are the kind of people who buy 1GB 9400GT over 512MB 4670, 3GHz P4 D over athlon X2 5200...

you really cant argue with... because they are too smug of holding a BE in Comps and their opinion can be changed only by someone superior to them in terms of their education/profession.

all this may sound stereotypical to many but sadly this is the case in most colleges..at least those under mumbai university.
 
madnav said:
i tell you what...
engineering courses are about 8085 8086 and p1 at max... and other controllers related to their design.

current gen architectures and instruction set related to them are not yet part of any standard course ...atleast not offered by mumbai university.

my friends who have completed BE can not assemble a computer, they do not understand different parameters involved about different components....
but when they receive an email about core-i7 ..they start praising how great intel is for futuristic sci-fi 8core processor (although its 8 threads)...

these are the kind of people who buy 1GB 9400GT over 512MB 4670, 3GHz P4 D over athlon X2 5200...
you really cant argue with... because they are too smug of holding a BE in Comps and their opinion can be changed only by someone superior to them in terms of their education/profession.

all this may sound stereotypical to many but sadly this is the case in most colleges..at least those under mumbai university.
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+1 to that bro. Reminds me of my college days. That way like 6 years back - man i feel old already.

On a different note thats how stuff sells here in India.:tongue:
 
mumbai univ sucks!!!!!!

reminds me of all those times i banged my head on the wall to convince people.

when i threw my stupid intel p4 prescott out--it didn't even run turbo c in first year of engg and took my dad along to lamington road to buy my first amd -- he asked me at the shop--which version of intel pentium is this? i told him it was amd which was a competitor to intel--he tells me i am not buying chinese stuff!

and amd is a sponsor for the ferrari formula 1 racing team--there isn't anything that's higher in terms of engineering than formula 1(besides space and aeronautical and maybe a few other fields of science and technology)

amd can damn well run anything properly.
 
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