wooka
Discoverer
Before I call it a night.
1. The chart assumes a lot of things, and sadly doesn't take into account heatsink design at all. Also, please, this is their opinion, not science. For example, the taichi can do 400A+ the titanium 250A+. Buildzoid decreed this himself. Then what good is the chart =) they even got the phase counts wrong on a few mobos. In a 3 piece phase set up, you have to look at the weakest link. It's good work, and I'm sure they're motivated and better educated, but the end result is misinformation. These are worst case figures... Running at 50C ambient, with low airflow stats, at best. Else they don't make sense.
2. When you say the x470 have better traces... It's marketing. There is an element of truth to it, though not the rule. X470 HAD to pick up the slack on the RAM speed deficit. To an extent, going daisy chain and further working on traces made the 2xxx ryzen just seem to clock better WRT RAM. Fact is, it helped hand in hand with a better IMC on the 2nd gen ryzen. Now if I can run 4000 MHz RAM on an x370 at nominal voltage, where did all that X470 marketing go? Its a lot of hash.
3. Sure, the x470 WILL OC higher than a x370 but we're now talking above the 3600 MHz point where by default the IF falls to half speed and the advantage of faster ram falls prey to the larger IF latency impact. If an x370 can run 3600 with ease, why look for 5000+support? We will have DDR5 soon.
4. Prices aren't going up. More manufacturers have joined the race. Hynix has 3600+ as does crucial. At the entry level Chinese manufs have caught up.
1. The chart assumes a lot of things, and sadly doesn't take into account heatsink design at all. Also, please, this is their opinion, not science. For example, the taichi can do 400A+ the titanium 250A+. Buildzoid decreed this himself. Then what good is the chart =) they even got the phase counts wrong on a few mobos. In a 3 piece phase set up, you have to look at the weakest link. It's good work, and I'm sure they're motivated and better educated, but the end result is misinformation. These are worst case figures... Running at 50C ambient, with low airflow stats, at best. Else they don't make sense.
2. When you say the x470 have better traces... It's marketing. There is an element of truth to it, though not the rule. X470 HAD to pick up the slack on the RAM speed deficit. To an extent, going daisy chain and further working on traces made the 2xxx ryzen just seem to clock better WRT RAM. Fact is, it helped hand in hand with a better IMC on the 2nd gen ryzen. Now if I can run 4000 MHz RAM on an x370 at nominal voltage, where did all that X470 marketing go? Its a lot of hash.
3. Sure, the x470 WILL OC higher than a x370 but we're now talking above the 3600 MHz point where by default the IF falls to half speed and the advantage of faster ram falls prey to the larger IF latency impact. If an x370 can run 3600 with ease, why look for 5000+support? We will have DDR5 soon.
4. Prices aren't going up. More manufacturers have joined the race. Hynix has 3600+ as does crucial. At the entry level Chinese manufs have caught up.