Heisen
Herald
cavalier
Discoverer
I recently switched from iPhone 16 PM to S25 Ultra. So was just curious to hear opinions lol
PotBelliedGarfield
Contributor
cavalier
Discoverer
I will be switching from iphone 12 to a Pixel this month. Replacement iphone too expensive with no signs of coming down in price. Considering Google and Samsung offer 7 years of updates, will replace with one of those. iphone worked fine, just too small of a battery and close to EOL.
PotBelliedGarfield
Contributor
I love Money more than iPhone.
(iPhone 3,4,6,SE ex-user. Now Redmi Note and Oppo user)
(iPhone 3,4,6,SE ex-user. Now Redmi Note and Oppo user)
I come from a Symbian background and having used S60v5 for years, Android was the closest replacement that I could use.
The two things that absolutely seals this operating system as my primary driver today and for years to come:
1. Proper file manager.
2. Unique apps like Poweramp, Redreader, NewPipe, SD Maid, etc., that you won't get anywhere else.
The two things that absolutely seals this operating system as my primary driver today and for years to come:
1. Proper file manager.
2. Unique apps like Poweramp, Redreader, NewPipe, SD Maid, etc., that you won't get anywhere else.
Opinions are like a&&holes .. etc .. etc ..
need I go on ..
Besides this death match has been already been done to the death in multiple reincarnations nonetheless.
So what if you do it again ? I will bring the popcorn.
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Oh, man. The N97 brings up so many good memories.OT (but couldn't resist): My last S60 was the N97
I was in middle school when it came out and the occasional trips to Nokia showrooms to check out the N97 and N97 Mini, along with the N86 and E63 were a treat, expecting one day to own any one of them.
Well, ended up with a 5233 and that thing still works to this date. Every once in a while would boot it up for that nostalgic throwback.
Android through and through especially after the failure what was ios 18 but living with an iPhone for the better half of last year did let me to appreciate a few things that iOS just does right.
Saangharsh
Beginner
Before using iphone - Android
After using iphone - Ios
I feel even though android has more features. I feel ios is just much more optimized and feels more finished.
After using iphone - Ios
I feel even though android has more features. I feel ios is just much more optimized and feels more finished.
raksrules
Oracle
Using iOS since 13 years. I am old now and don't want to bother with anything new anymore. I am ok with my iPhone.
Team Green for the Modded APKs, Automations and most importantly instantly transfer files from PC to phone and vice versa. I also the like the detail in customizability of home and lock screens on Stock Samsung and OnePlus Phones/launchers. The entry point for owning these devices are pretty low too.
Will likely be not switching to iPhone in the foreseeable future.
Will likely be not switching to iPhone in the foreseeable future.
Heisen
Herald
Generally, most people’s first phone is an Android, so they develop a bias toward it. When they try an iPhone, it feels harder to use. They expect the same kind of behavior because they are familiar with Android. The closed-source nature of the iPhone can feel suffocating to them.
But iOS, and Apple in general, is built on strict rules and constraints. Because of this, the system rarely ends up in unpredictable states. Due to this everything is carefully optimized, and this is possible because Apple knows exactly what hardware their software will run on.
They go a step further by writing software specifically for their own designed hardware. Since they know their software will only run on a handful of chips, they can optimize things even more effectively.
Most Android users don’t really care about any of this. They see their phone as a mini-computer that should do everything they want. They also want it to look the way that pleases them the most. They want every possible feature. They just want their phones do the thing no matter how crappy it gets while doing it.
They often associate lag with freezing, but iOS users get addicted to the smooth, jitter-free user experience. Android might offer higher refresh rates at lower costs, but often with stutter. Meanwhile, iOS still provides a smooth 60Hz experience on lower-end models with no jitter or choppiness. The true benefit of high refresh rates only shows when the system can consistently deliver those frames.
I think Apple will eventually start offering 120Hz displays in their lower-end phones, because the current hardware can easily handle it. Right now, they stick with 60Hz in those models to keep the Pro versions more appealing. Bad move by Apple? You be the judge of that.
Another thing is that iOS rarely changes in drastic ways. Due to its constraints, the system stays consistent over time. Long-time users get familiar with all the advanced tips and tricks, and over the years, these become second nature. Even if they switch to a new iPhone after ten years, they’ll find everything they learned still works the same way. This consistency is a powerful feature of the system. Apple continues adding new features, but they rarely change the old ways of doing things, so long-time users are never inconvenienced.
The long-time iOS users, they eventually stop caring about what else is out there. They know their system inside out, and it’s more than enough for their needs. It handles edge cases intelligently, and it’s simply not worth the hassle of switching to Android and trying to adapt everything and get used to all the ever-changing chaos.
The same is true for Android users. They are used to things being placed in weird locations, and bajillion settings. It doesn’t bother them. In fact, they often welcome it and consider it an improvement. This suggests to me that they were never fully satisfied with what came before. Many of them eagerly await the next Android update in hopes that it will finally fix whatever issue they are currently facing.
Even if an iOS user never updates their phone, it will still work smoothly without throwing tantrums. Their experience remains stable and unaffected.
Cost is where the biggest debate happens. Android users often justify the price with features, while iOS users justify it with reliability and quality. In my opinion, you get what you pay for. If the entry-level iPhone costs 50-60k I think that price is justified. Not because it’s an entry-level phone, but because of what it offer, something you simply cannot get from any other system at that price, and it’s not about features. Under 30-40k it's all Android territory, no sign of Apple.
Software support is phenomenal on iOS, the fact that they don't give you a number, like android gives you e.g 4 years of android updates, and apple doesn't even mention it, and the best part is nobody has a problem with it, people don't want to know either, because it is already established and set in stone, that apple gives long term support to all their models, entry level or premium, even after the support ends and the device is declared legacy, apple still pushes security updates.
I’ve also noticed a trend where some tech enthusiasts who use Android think iOS is a simple system made for simple people, like older adults or kids. Since they know how to flash custom ROMs, root devices, and tweak every setting, they feel superior.
But that simply isn’t true. iOS is designed to be usable for all age groups, and there are plenty of serious geeks who use it and do all kinds of advanced things. The system has its own share of deep, intricate features that only enthusiasts would know how to fully take advantage of.
And when it comes to accessibility, there’s really no competition. If someone has a disability, there is no better option than iOS. Imagine a disabled person using Android, and then one night the system updates automatically. The entire interface might change, and assistive features could break because everything has been altered. That’s a nightmare scenario. With iOS, consistency and reliability are what make it truly stand out.
But iOS, and Apple in general, is built on strict rules and constraints. Because of this, the system rarely ends up in unpredictable states. Due to this everything is carefully optimized, and this is possible because Apple knows exactly what hardware their software will run on.
They go a step further by writing software specifically for their own designed hardware. Since they know their software will only run on a handful of chips, they can optimize things even more effectively.
Most Android users don’t really care about any of this. They see their phone as a mini-computer that should do everything they want. They also want it to look the way that pleases them the most. They want every possible feature. They just want their phones do the thing no matter how crappy it gets while doing it.
They often associate lag with freezing, but iOS users get addicted to the smooth, jitter-free user experience. Android might offer higher refresh rates at lower costs, but often with stutter. Meanwhile, iOS still provides a smooth 60Hz experience on lower-end models with no jitter or choppiness. The true benefit of high refresh rates only shows when the system can consistently deliver those frames.
I think Apple will eventually start offering 120Hz displays in their lower-end phones, because the current hardware can easily handle it. Right now, they stick with 60Hz in those models to keep the Pro versions more appealing. Bad move by Apple? You be the judge of that.
Another thing is that iOS rarely changes in drastic ways. Due to its constraints, the system stays consistent over time. Long-time users get familiar with all the advanced tips and tricks, and over the years, these become second nature. Even if they switch to a new iPhone after ten years, they’ll find everything they learned still works the same way. This consistency is a powerful feature of the system. Apple continues adding new features, but they rarely change the old ways of doing things, so long-time users are never inconvenienced.
The long-time iOS users, they eventually stop caring about what else is out there. They know their system inside out, and it’s more than enough for their needs. It handles edge cases intelligently, and it’s simply not worth the hassle of switching to Android and trying to adapt everything and get used to all the ever-changing chaos.
The same is true for Android users. They are used to things being placed in weird locations, and bajillion settings. It doesn’t bother them. In fact, they often welcome it and consider it an improvement. This suggests to me that they were never fully satisfied with what came before. Many of them eagerly await the next Android update in hopes that it will finally fix whatever issue they are currently facing.
Even if an iOS user never updates their phone, it will still work smoothly without throwing tantrums. Their experience remains stable and unaffected.
Cost is where the biggest debate happens. Android users often justify the price with features, while iOS users justify it with reliability and quality. In my opinion, you get what you pay for. If the entry-level iPhone costs 50-60k I think that price is justified. Not because it’s an entry-level phone, but because of what it offer, something you simply cannot get from any other system at that price, and it’s not about features. Under 30-40k it's all Android territory, no sign of Apple.
Software support is phenomenal on iOS, the fact that they don't give you a number, like android gives you e.g 4 years of android updates, and apple doesn't even mention it, and the best part is nobody has a problem with it, people don't want to know either, because it is already established and set in stone, that apple gives long term support to all their models, entry level or premium, even after the support ends and the device is declared legacy, apple still pushes security updates.
I’ve also noticed a trend where some tech enthusiasts who use Android think iOS is a simple system made for simple people, like older adults or kids. Since they know how to flash custom ROMs, root devices, and tweak every setting, they feel superior.
But that simply isn’t true. iOS is designed to be usable for all age groups, and there are plenty of serious geeks who use it and do all kinds of advanced things. The system has its own share of deep, intricate features that only enthusiasts would know how to fully take advantage of.
And when it comes to accessibility, there’s really no competition. If someone has a disability, there is no better option than iOS. Imagine a disabled person using Android, and then one night the system updates automatically. The entire interface might change, and assistive features could break because everything has been altered. That’s a nightmare scenario. With iOS, consistency and reliability are what make it truly stand out.
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I have been issued iphone15 from my office.
Even though I have heard quite a lot about the UI and UX of IoS and optimized software and hardware on iphones, I frequently get buggy freezes and counter intuitive actions. Frankly has put me off: whats the point of spending close to lakh rupees and getting this crap, when I could spend 1/10th and be OK with a slower phone.
Even though I have heard quite a lot about the UI and UX of IoS and optimized software and hardware on iphones, I frequently get buggy freezes and counter intuitive actions. Frankly has put me off: whats the point of spending close to lakh rupees and getting this crap, when I could spend 1/10th and be OK with a slower phone.
The main reason for using an iPhone in my case are the immediate security updates for 0-day vulnerabilities, long term OS updates and the fact that all apps have to follow the set design guidelines, besides being able to deny apps all permissions and having them still work properly. The video processing also happens to be better than most of the competition, though photo processing is a matter of taste. It is good that over the years it has become easy to share things across apps, while still maintaining the sandbox.
Main gripe with Android was how the apps are designed for different version of Android with different target APIs and the menus are generally a mess because developers feel the need to cram options all around the place as per their whims and fancies. Mostly didn't like apps enforcing permissions and refusing to work or being able to check other apps installed on the device. Didn't also like the fact that apart from Pixel devices, you have manufacturers treating security like a feature where they choose to release a security update every 3-6 months. However, I loved the sideloading part and hence mostly used it on a tablet after switching to an iPhone as well as for TV.
Had switched between Android and iOS about 3 times in the past 15 years, but will stick with iPhone on the mobile front.
Main gripe with Android was how the apps are designed for different version of Android with different target APIs and the menus are generally a mess because developers feel the need to cram options all around the place as per their whims and fancies. Mostly didn't like apps enforcing permissions and refusing to work or being able to check other apps installed on the device. Didn't also like the fact that apart from Pixel devices, you have manufacturers treating security like a feature where they choose to release a security update every 3-6 months. However, I loved the sideloading part and hence mostly used it on a tablet after switching to an iPhone as well as for TV.
Had switched between Android and iOS about 3 times in the past 15 years, but will stick with iPhone on the mobile front.