India-Pakistan current war like situation discussion (Pahalgham)

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yugaaa said:
Seems like a face saving Sanghi post . Nonetheless .
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He isn't one. lol
yugaaa said:
We started bombing but never achieved anything . That is the truth .
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Don't just assert. Say why?
yugaaa said:
Do you even know how many peacekeeping missions Indian soldiers have done or are doing currently ? If we are not battle ready the why blabber in Bihar ? makes no sense right ?
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I don't follow your reasoning here
yugaaa said:
Spinning it as having won is the disgrace part .
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Message after the May 7 strike was non escalatory and no intention to continue.

Tactically & operationally we did win. Throughout we had the initiative. Thats why people were upset when it stopped because we had the momentum.

Strategically is another question. If the idea was to deter future attacks then no. Because there will future terrorist attacks but our response will take that into account.

No future PM will be able to ignore the precedent set by the Modi government. And the response has to be harder than the last one.

You won't defeat the PA militarily. Only politically.
 
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Totally satisfied with Today's 6:30 PM briefing leaded by Air Marshal AK Bharti, Lt Gen Rajiv Ghai,Vice Admiral AN Pramod & Maj Gen SS Sharda.

In Ramayan, Jambavant said
"Hanuman burned down Lanka just to make a point...
Ravan was lucky Mahabali didn't get angry if he had, there'd be nothing left to talk about"
 
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nRiTeCh said:
Baluchistan shall takeover their attacks further.
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blr_p said:
He isn't one. lol

Don't just assert. Say why?

I don't follow your reasoning here

Message after the May 7 strike was non escalatory and no intention to continue.

Tactically & operationally we did win. Throughout we had the initiative. Thats why people were upset when it stopped because we had the momentum.

Strategically is another question. If the idea was to deter future attacks then no. Because there will future terrorist attacks but our response will take that into account.

No future PM will be able to ignore the precedent set by the Modi government. And the response has to be harder than the last one.

You won't defeat the PA militarily. Only politically.
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If it was political then how different is this compared to previous terrorist attacks and previous govts way of handling things . Previous govts never agreed to a brokered ceasefire at least . Modi has set the precedent of meekly accepting America as the refree .
 
If Paks hold the Simla agreement in abeyance then there is no more LoC.

They have to move troops to the east now which will open up chances for the Taliban & BLA to hammer them.

hammer anvil, hammer anvil

yugaaa said:
Lol ..India cannot decide on IMF loans
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Trump can which was my point
yugaaa said:
If it was political then how different is this compared to previous terrorist attacks and previous govts way of handling things
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Abrogating 370 they never did. More importantly what could the PA do? Nothing

IWT held in abeyance? Which previous government did that? What can the PA do? Nothing

An idea is to start elections for PO J&K. You know we have empty seats in parliament for this purpose. What can the PA do? Nothing

With our last strikes do the people of Pakistan believe their military can save them from India any longer? What if separatist movements gain momentum now. More challenges isn't it. PA cannot be everywhere at the same time.

That is the meaning of political

People are only seeing the kinetic side of the Modi government and not realising the political angle. Also economic which IWT is
yugaaa said:
Previous govts never agreed to a brokered ceasefire at least
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Of course they did otherwise we'd have been in a constant state of war.

We'd have had an armistice like the two Koreas.

yugaaa said:
Modi has set the precedent of meekly accepting America as the refree .
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I'm not seeing what the problem for India is here given what I said in my earlier reply which you have ignored
 
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blr_p said:
If Paks hold the Simla agreement in abeyance then there is no more LoC.

They have to move troops to the east now which will open up chances for the Taliban & BLA to hammer them.

hammer anvil, hammer anvil


Trump can which was my point

Abrogating 370 they never did. More importantly what could the PA do? Nothing

IWT held in abeyance? Which previous government did that? What can the PA do? Nothing

An idea is to start elections for PO J&K. You know we have empty seats in parliament for this purpose. What can the PA do? Nothing

With our last strikes do the people of Pakistan believe their military can save them from India any longer? What if separatist movements gain momentum now. More challenges isn't it. PA cannot be everywhere at the same time.

That is the meaning of political

People are only seeing the kinetic side of the Modi government and not realising the political angle. Also economic which IWT is

Of course they did otherwise we'd have been in a constant state of war.

We'd have had an armistice like the two Koreas.


I'm not seeing what the problem for India is here given what I said in my earlier reply which you have ignored
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Claims of "we have ended terrorism " went down the gutter . Amith shah words .
Any sensible person knows the scrapping of IWT unilaterally is foolish . We cannot set a precedent where China can use the same .
PA operates military as well as terrorists . India does not . There is the clear difference . If we are not able to break the country into 4 now , all this huffing and puffing by Modi is just an irresponsible jackass PR stunt .
 
yugaaa said:
Claims of "we have ended terrorism " went down the gutter . Amith shah words .
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That's politics and I've already pointed this out. If it were that easy Israel would be sitting pretty.

But why do you deny that the cost to do so has gone up considerably.
yugaaa said:
Any sensible person knows the scrapping of IWT unilaterally is foolish . We cannot set a precedent where China can use the same .
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It's not scrapped, its been suspended. And we can screw around without even violating it if you follow the video I posted earlier on this topic. Let's see your arguments against what the General proposes.

And China can't do the same to us. I will let you and others who also believe this trope learn why not for yourselves.
yugaaa said:
PA operates military as well as terrorists . India does not . There is the clear difference .
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Yes
yugaaa said:
If we are not able to break the country into 4 now , all this huffing and puffing by Modi is just an irresponsible jackass PR stunt .
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It will become increasingly harder for that country to remain together as time goes on.

To do so 'now' as you say implies boots on the ground or do you have another way?

I've already outlined a number of ways to do so without boots on the ground. Check the first video I posted
 
yugaaa said:
Claims of "we have ended terrorism " went down the gutter . Amith shah words .
Any sensible person knows the scrapping of IWT unilaterally is foolish . We cannot set a precedent where China can use the same .
PA operates military as well as terrorists . India does not . There is the clear difference . If we are not able to break the country into 4 now , all this huffing and puffing by Modi is just an irresponsible jackass PR stunt .
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sir aap pradhan-mantri ban jao, jis deen banoge tab ye kardena and that would prove our arguments wrong in one go.
i will full support you when you will be in the elections.
ho sake to, post these posts on twitter too they will also support you.
 
DigitalDude said:
Too many naive people in this thread. Unless you were so young, where were you all during Kargil, 26/11 and other zillion terror attacks? Media is far better today than they were during those times if the metric is "are they actively and intently harming the country and lying to the public". Today's media is entertainment and circus. Those times it was enemy co-conspirator and saboteur. Some are govt sympathisers, some are opposers... we have plenty on both sides. Just take a look at TN media which prostrates to a single party no matter if it is in power or not. For them the "war" is India's (Modi's) fault and borderline supporting pakistan position. That is the level of media. It is not something new. Atleast these days we have platforms like X and features like community notes.

Btw some one was talking highly of a popular journo. I could laugh at that if not for what she did during Kargil and 26/11. Reporting live army locations which were later shelled by the enemy. Reporting live hostage accounts which were later used by the 26/11 handlers and communicated live to the terrorists.

There are plenty of such saboteurs and enemies within our country these days too. I will any day prefer this clown shows and circuses to that hell where they ran the real show.

Stop deluding yourselves. There is no ideal utopian honest credible sincere fourth-estatish journalism etc except for in your fertile imaginations and fantasies. There never was... it was just hidden well in the past. Get used to the real world. If people truly wanted all this they would have gotten them. People want entertainment they get entertainment.

Obviously the entire population is not going to critically think and evaluate every piece of information. They tune out... They need sensation, drama and the works. The media is just catering to them. Both sides (media and the viewers) know what they are doing/getting. Everyone knows what is going on sooner or later. There will always be fog of war and propaganda. Public fear and hoarding is not only due to media. It is more innate and will always happen. Just get over it. But there are plenty of methods and ways the govt has with it to communicate the necessary info to the public if the need be.
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****ing finally! Thanks for pointing this out, it's like peeps here just woke up after 2014 elections and decided everything wrong began then. This shit has been common for a long time, and if anyone thinks it's just India, I invite them to listen to Fox News,

The average American/European don't give a **** about us and most probably don't even know about us aside from vague recollections, stop believing in online echo chambers, your average "leftist"/"democratic" news channels have always been biased against us. it's nothing new, so why bother giving them any attention.
 
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