7 Things MS got Wrong with Windows 7

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Admist all the gung-ho about Win7, i just came across this article on Giz, don't know if these issues/annoyances have been looked after in the RC but i do feel MS again tried to cramp in too much without giving UI the minimalism/slickness it needs to have.
Since the Windows 7 beta launched, we've pretty much been having a love-in. But the truth is, it's not all rainbows and Start buttons. There are 7 things about Windows 7 that we really hate.

1. Can't Pin What We Want to Taskbar. Perhaps because we love the superbar so much, it drives us nuts that we can't pin everything to it. Particularly, the Recycle Bin and some devices, like USB drives.
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With the Recycle Bin, you can make it a folder within Windows Explorer on the taskbar, but you can't pin the actual Recycle Bin to the taskbar, so you can drag and drop stuff into it or empty it. Instead, I get this single, lonely icon floating on my desktop, making my OCD crazy. Admittedly, adding the recycling bin to the taskbar with drag-and-drop garbage would make the new taskbar behavior inconsistent, but I drag stuff to the taskbar all the time wanting to chunk it. We want the option, even if it makes absolutely no sense.

When it comes to devices, it's inconsistent about what you can and can't pin, which really is annoying as hell. You can pin certified Device Stage products there, but not any other peripheral—even ones that are recognized as the same type, like a camera. I was able to pin my Downloads folder to the taskbar separately from the catch-all Windows Explorer icon, but every other folder I tried failed. If you're going to rob full control from us, at least do so consistently.

2. No Upgrade Install From XP to Windows 7. You can do an upgrade install—an installation that'll preserve your programs, files and folder structure—from Vista to Windows 7, but not from XP to Windows 7. We all admit, it's really better to do a clean install anyway, and leapfrogging two generations of OSes is bound to cause all kinds of headaches. But a hefty chunk of people will upgrade from XP to 7, especially on netbooks. Upgrading XP to Vista was doable, and Windows 7 is structurally speaking, a lot like Vista. So what's the deal, hmmmmm? Migration tools are nice, but they're no match for a simple upgrade wizard.

3. Ejecting Devices Requires Too Many Clicks. Love Device Stage and all, but ejecting a plain old card reader requires two different menus and more clicks than I care to count as I shuffle from menu to menu. Just like it was in Vista, this is dumb. Sometimes it's just easier to yank out the drive and deal with the angry alert message. Two clicks max, please. Update: Okay, looks like we're doinitwrong. You can actually pop up a list of attached devices from the "safely remove hardware icon where you click the device, and it ejects, requiring a grand total of two clicks, which is what we wanted. If you actually click where it says "Safely Remove Hardware" it pops up the menu and you get to click more. This could be made more apparent to the user, I think.

4. Most Desktop Gadgets Suck More people will use gadgets now that they don't start off in the Sidebar by default. (Yes, you can rip 'em off the Sidebar and scatter 'em around in Vista, but it's still more of an ordeal.) But even if gadgets are more accessible than ever, there's a problem: Most of them are pretty terrible, with nothing like the quality or polish of OS X's Dashboard ecosystem or Yahoo's Konfabulator, so we only use a few of 'em. Hopefully, this gets better by the time Windows 7 is all final.

5. Windows Media Player Blows. Yeah, it now natively supports more than three-and-a-half codecs, but try actually figuring out how to use its great new features. The interface is yucky and cluttered, a consequence of trying to simplify a program that's gotten really unwieldy as its sprouted feature tentacles over the years. (Before you even start, I'm not a fan of iTunes' feature bloat either, but its library UI is better.) Our attempts to play music off of a networked drive, for instance, went nowhere on one computer and produced ugly results on another, because it's so unintuitive, with controls and features hidden like surprises. There's really no argument for saving Media Player—it's not like anyone actually likes it anyway. Windows Media Center and Zune's software look and feel great, so how about letting those guys build a whole new one from scratch?
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6. Sleep and Hibernation Are Still Crapshoots. This may sound like a beta complaint, but it's been a real problem in Windows for a while. Sometimes your computer will come out of sleep or hibernation. (Sleep is much better than hibernation, though.) Sometimes it won't. Sometimes it's as snappy as a wake up as if it had a triple shot of espresso. Sometimes it's like it washed down three bottles of sleeping pills with a quart of drank. Make it work, please.

7. Control Panel Is a Mess. Look at this crap. No really, just look at it. The Simple layout literally hides what you're looking for, while the All view masks it with the camouflage of multiplicity. Not only that, but with all the advancements, Control Panel is no longer really the single central hub for getting everything done, tinker-wise. With all the great UI work you've done in Windows 7, don't tell us you really couldn't do any better with this, guys.
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We've got some other nagging issues that may become objects of hatred at some point, but we're willing to wait for the final release to air more grievances. In the meantime, that's what we absolutely hate. So FIX IT! Thanks for caring.

-Giz.

Control panel indeed looks utterly horrible.
 
Lol

This is a sad try..

Admist all the gung-ho about Win7, i just came across this article on Giz, don't know if these issues/annoyances have been looked after in the RC but i do feel MS again tried to cramp in too much without giving UI the minimalism/slickness it needs to have.
You mean to say:- I dont care if what i say holds any validity, but i'l say it any way..



i do feel MS again tried to cramp in too much without giving UI the minimalism/slickness it needs to have.

LOL, article aside, you're really just bluffing out, without much backup for your arguments, come back when you have something substantial and noteworthy to say and do back it up with proof..:P
 
I'll still go for windows 7, there's no choice. Even if I shout linux is better than also I'm gonna use windows. cant help it.
 
Yea, thanks for the post "Mac"instein :D

The Win 7 UI is the best out there IMHO, after having used it and also Linux (GNOME and KDE) and also Mac OS X on an iMac... looks like it will grab a bunch of market share back from Mac OS.

I'm just talking about the look and feel, it still has the bloat and performance disadvantages that only MS can manage :D

But its looking real good for home and corporate desktops....
 
cant say much about corporate desktops as i never got the feeling of vista on them either.

All our systems were like snails when joined to the domain, so looking at them struggling on XP (systems with 4 gigs of rams and C2Ds), so yeah, cant say much about Vista or 7.

It wasnt even a fault of our network because the latency was quite nice and the fact was that the domains were local. But still it took 15 mins for the OS to crawl from login screen to the desktop. :|

Hopefully 7 should be optimised for that very reason.
 
I believe this is a very old article.

The too many clicks to eject a USB device point was wrong and admitted in the post itself.

Control Panel may look messy, but just try and search for what you want to do. The search in Control Panel is pretty slick.
 
Metalspree said:
OP Windows 7 is just a RC.

:rofl: .. lol .. You really understand development or not ? Its RC ! Means all features are freez and the only thing left to do is stabilizing product and bug fixing , no more new features and changes are done after Rc..

BTW don't think it will be as bad as Vista but since it has Vista type UI I can't digest it :P

I really liked that device center idea they came up with.. Rest is taken from here and there :P
 
Dark Star said:
:rofl: .. lol .. You really understand development or not ? Its RC ! Means all features are freez and the only thing left to do is stabilizing product and bug fixing , no more new features and changes are done after Rc..

BTW don't think it will be as bad as Vista but since it has Vista type UI I can't digest it :P

I really liked that device center idea they came up with.. Rest is taken from here and there :P

Features are frozen, but if you read the list, you'l find that out of the 7, 6 can be changed in the RC too since they are mostly bug fixes and optimizations(if we even consider that the things mentioned in the aricle are actually true and not just randon rants of an estranged fanboy)..
AS for the credit for the UI etc, well when something works everyone is there to try and claim the credit..so no surprise you said that..
 
Hey "Mac"instein, here are some links to help you out defend yourself against MS Fanbois :D

Windows 7 RC gets its first bug, and it's a doozy | Ed Bott’s Microsoft Report | ZDNet.com

How many Intel CPUs will fail the XP Mode test in Windows 7? | Ed Bott’s Microsoft Report | ZDNet.com

Top 7 reasons people quit Linux? How about 7 reasons to try it | The Toybox | ZDNet.com

Windows 7 still allows unsafe files to be disguised as safe files | Hardware 2.0 | ZDNet.com

Slashdot | Windows 7 "Not Much Faster" Than Vista

I personally feel the UI is the best but I totally agree with the last link (slashdot) that Win7 performance is not much better than Vista and Vista is a known slow/hog... Mac OS and Linux are way faster/efficient but doesn't bother me though since I got quad core goodnees with 4gb ram :D
 
So Intel not supporting Hardware Virtualisation in its few of its consumer targetted processors, which in turn means an enterprise marketed & targetter software can't be run on it, is Windows fault. Impeccable logic guys.
 
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