A2 Ghee a scam?

ssslayer said:
Never has any science told people to feed every 3 hours. The science of glucagon and insulin was known quite long time ago. What you could say is that scientific approach requires time to experiement and determine the cause-effect relationships AND these results have to overcome the extremely egoistical and political people at the helm of scientific organizations, committees, bodies etc.

A case in point: fasting as a "treatment" to alleviate diabetes is known for more than a decade. Heck, I have been on one meal a day since 2011-12 (when intermittent fasting was not known to practically anyone). Doctors also knew about it (mostly due to experimentation done on prisoners during wars - so we have a wealth of knowledge from WW1 days). Some doctors put their clients on it and got great results. But there was no official statement from the Doctor's associations due to several reasons (most important factor pharma lobbies) - due to which I guess even today fasting is NOT one of the official ways to control blood sugar.

The benefit of science is to weed out stupid traditions which have no cause-effect relationship and hence perhaps doesnt warrant sticking with.
It is the un-educated people who follow "science-backed" claims made by non-scientific people which causes issues like the one you mention.
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Sure mate whatever floats your boat. No one attacked science here, I just shared my opinion that if something is working for people around me since generations and not harming others then I personally would not like warriors of science like yourself to validate it because no one asked for your inputs.

And yes people should not make science backed claims because the thing is for something to be science backed it requires a lot of trials and peer reviews which are not something layman can ever do. Also regarding the intermittent fasting, I quoted late 90s in my comment and never questioned what doctors knew or did not know back then. 2010s saw fasting getting traction with boom happening around 2015 which imo was due to internet being available everywhere and not just the theory getting popular.

Lastly if there are lobbies so it doesn't matter what anyone says since any research can be bought out so again might as well stick to what's been working since generations:)
 
Arjun said:
There are a lot of organic food sellers selling A2 ghee now for 4-5x the regular ghee price. But A2 is a protein and Ghee does not have any protein so it makes no difference if ghee is made from A2 or A1 milk. According to this video Ghee is the best oil for cooking.
. Which oil do you use, there are also organic cold pressed oils which are said to be healthy. I will be using ghee for cooking now, which oil is recommended?
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Demand Vs Supply plays the role.

A jersey cow can give 30 litres of milk in a day, a desi cow not even close to half. Effort to maintain both the cows is same, yield of the desi is half. Hence the price is higher. 2 cents of 101 economics.
 
Duicents said:
Demand Vs Supply plays the role.

A jersey cow can give 30 litres of milk in a day, a desi cow not even close to half. Effort to maintain both the cows is same, yield of the desi is half. Hence the price is higher. 2 cents of 101 economics.
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What is the dietary routine for a jersey to give 30L milk?? The jerseys in my village give just around 20-21 on a good day and I thought that was a lot lol. Local cows only 6-7L.
Hay and green grass and leaves are the staple food and sometimes corn too. We have a lot of napier grass (I think, near my farm) also.

Which makes me want to ask, how viable are those industry made pellet feeds for cows? I know foreign farmers love to feed them those. But they cost a lot for us. 1500-3000 a bag and I don't know how economically viable they are.
 
TEUser2K1 said:
Farmers in our area routinely use pellet feed which increase milk production. Milk will feel slightly watery though. They can afford it since milk is expensive in urban, semi urban regions.
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What about the costs and offsets. Pellets are not cheap. Grass and hat bale are free. So how much does pellets help and affect the cost of feeding/sustenance?
TEUser2K1 said:
Another news which may interest you: https://www.indiatoday.in/india-tod...i-cow-meets-brazilian-bull-2567087-2024-07-15
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Artificial Insemination facility is available for pigs in our region.
 
iPwnz said:
What is the dietary routine for a jersey to give 30L milk?? The jerseys in my village give just around 20-21 on a good day and I thought that was a lot lol.
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The 30 L cows may be Holsteins. In India, Holsteins are also informally/colloquially called Jersey cows. And Holstein cows have 20-40% higher milk output than Jersey.
 
iPwnz said:
Grass and hat bale are free.
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In semi urban regions, it's not that free. In south, protests happened because of this, for eg.:
www.thehindu.com

Karnataka’s ban on fodder puts dairy farmers in Wayanad in a fix

Karnataka govt. bans transp. of fodder from drought-affected districts to other districts/outside state, adversely affecting dairy farmers in Wayanad. KCMMF stopped subsidised green maize distribution in Oct. Dairy farming not lucrative due to high feed prices & low milk prices. MLA seeks...
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It was heard that farmers from Kerala went to Karnataka where huge tract of land is available for maze silage / grass / fodder cultivation at far lower cost, however once product is ready Karnataka stopped outward flow of fodder.
I've seen farms using variety of pellet foods routinely to improve milk production, but not aware of cost benefits. They are using it only because it is viable locally.

As for Gir cow case, you may already know how Brazil imported Indian Gir cows there decades back and made it a huge global industry all the while we Indians lagged behind in industrial animal husbandry and lost our opportunity. Ironically, now Indians have to import same Gir cow's genetic material from Brazil to improve productivity of our livestock.
 
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With our superstition and what not, being late is better than never lol.
kiran6680 said:
The 30 L cows may be Holsteins. In India, Holsteins are also informally/colloquially called Jersey cows.
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Yes! This is true. We call all imported cow breeds Jersey cows.
 
Ghee is made by removing milk solids (including proteins like casein) so yeah, the difference between A1/A2 ghee is negligible.

However, there are claims that A2 milk is less likely to cause digestive issues and is easier to digest. Since ghee contains a very small amount of protein, this distinction might be important to some people. If digestive problems are not a concern, the difference is minimal.

Ghee contains high amounts of saturated fats. Cold pressed oils are less rich in saturated fats. In case you have cardiovascular health issues, than avoiding ghee would be reccomended.

Also, primary vitamin content of Ghee is A,D,E,K. Cold pressed oils usually have a wider range of nutrients than Ghee.

That's not saying that Ghee is better or cold pressed oils are better. Rather than just relying on one oil in particular, it's best to use a balanced assortment of oils (based on dietary and health preferences).
 
TEUser2K1 said:
FSSAI orders removal of A1, A2 milk claims from products
FSSAI said these claims do not conform with the Food Safety and Standards Act, 2006
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FSSAI orders removal of A1, A2 milk claims from products

FSSAI directs removal of 'A1' and 'A2' milk claims from packaging, citing misleading labelling practices in India.
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They have been given a few months time it seems. Someone will probably appeal to court or something meanwhile.
 
A2 Ghee , term coined to make for the masses who look at Colgate lab reports, yet still fall for the marketing.

Based on real life demand and supply, you either have access to these cows (like house to house where everyone have them) and it's affordable while being pure and healthy or you don't have access to these cows.
and because it's extremely uneconomical to raise a desi breed while still taking risks and commitment that comes with owning cows , it's just very rare in this case to get access to the pure A2 Ghee .. and with high demand.. it's extremely high value item .. i know people who pay 5k or more for a kg but still don't get the pure and properly made ghee

So yeah , it's complicated

As for health, people have been using it for centuries, it's not unhealthy if used in moderately. It can enhance food flavour/aroma so that's a selling point. And health benefits? That's debatable but go with what you believe
 
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Can reworded by printing similar to: Organic nutritious product made from milk of grass fed, free range deshi cows, with love and devoted care... :)
 
TEUser2K1 said:
Can reworded by printing similar to: Organic nutritious product made from milk of grass fed, free range deshi cows, with love and devoted care... :)
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People need easy, fancy catchphrases...
I've seen some suggestions on youtube comments like 'desi', 'sanskaari', '*anatan' etc.
 
Organic nutritious product, milk of grass fed, free range cow - for sanskaari
deshi cows - for desi likers
with love and 'devoted care...' - for '*anatan' etc.

See, I already checked all boxes... :tearsofjoy:
 
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