CPU/Mobo Advice On New Mobo Proccy

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anfjavid

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guys gonna buy a new mobo procy. My idea is to get the following

ASUS M3N78EM
AMD (X2 7750BE OR X3 8650+ OR X4 9650) I AM NOT SURE which to get...

GUYS, I AM IN A MODERATE BUDGET SO DONT ADVICE ME VERY HIGH CONFIG....

GUYS, I read some reviews say that the above mobo supplies more voltage to the proccy. The review says, the mobo was replaced with gigabyte and it is ok. The mobo is supposed to give only 1.26 Vcore but it had suppled 1.36v volt which made the proccy overheat and it has idled on 55c . Is this true ?. Even i read that updating the bios did not help... plz advice on this.

 If the above mobo is ok, then which proccy should i go whether for x2, x3 or x4. Will the x2 7750be be best suitable for this proccy. Initially i thot of going for the x4 but some reviews say that only if i multitask more (like doing a heafty task and at the same time gaming) i will need a x4 proccy. If so how about x3 ?.

 I already have a 1gb 667 Transcend ram . I am gonna a buy one stick of 2 GB 800mhz Transcend ram. If i combine both the above ram sticks in the above mobo will i get into any trouble now or in future (1GB 667 + 2GB 800) ?

 Purposes are for
Moderate gaming ( already have a xfx 9600gt)
office applications
browsing
etc.,
Plz consider all the above and advice me ASAP guys cuz, probably tomorrow i may buy the above

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I really didn't understand anything you said about motherboard and processor.
As for the ram, i suggest you sell the 667 Mhz stick, because if you run them together, the 800Mhz stick will run at 667Mhz. 2GB 800Mhz should keep you happy for a while, later on add another 2GB stick.
 
Dump this combo get an E5200 (3.3k) + Gigabyte G31 (2.4k) + 4GB RAM (With money saved).

I hope you have a decent GFX card to play games.
 
^ Yep this mobo has this problem... Lot of users @ Newegg had pointed it out... You can also look into M3A78-EM based on ATI 780G... Same features & performance....

The BIOS in both M3A78-EM & M3N78-EM is pretty basic... You will not be able to overclock much.. Should look into E5200 + G31 Gigabyte as suggested earlier... Its low on features & perform lower than 780G + X2 7750BE @ stock but when OC'ed its a better option minus some features if you don't require them....

X2 is your best bet according to me since multitasking is not in your mind... :cool2:
 
Get biostar 790gxb 4.5k + x2 7750 BE 3.5k or in Intel

e7400 5k + ga31-s2l 2.2k

Adding 2 gb 800mhz rams will make ur rams work at 667. Sell the 667 stick, get 4gb ram 2gb x 2 @ 2.4k - Transcend powerchips
 
anfjavid said:
m sorry i didnt make u understand. Ok i will explain

The review is from this techenclave website only. In the below link u can read the review of a particular user....

http://www.techenclave.com/cpu-mobo-corner/amd-x2-7750-overvolting-133684.html

This is regarding the mobo supplying more power to the VCore.

plz read this and tell me guys...
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Okay, thanks for elaborating.
Why do you want to get into all that hassle? Just get Gigabyte G31+ E5200 and a 2GB 800Mhz RAM chip.
And sell the 667Mhz one as stated before....
 
dudes thanx for ur responses. You all suggest a e5200, but its dual core right ?. intel dual core is pakka crap.. This statement is made by the TE members itself many times. Now I dont understand y u all are suggesting this processor.

And with regard to the mobo, is M3(A)78-em ok or even that has the same overvoltage issue.?. Because a cousin of mine bought this processor sometime back and the bios indicated that the RAM speed is 400mhz, on the contrary he has 2x2gb 800mhz transcend ram. He has tried all the settings even replaced his memory and the ram bus speed is only half the speed of what he is having.

He has connected samsung Plasma HDTV to his pc with the above mobo (M3A78-em ) and he reported me that the HD movies lag . After that he replaced that mobo with a m2nvm hdmi and the issue resloved.

From that time i started hating any mobo with ATI chipset.

Now tell me guys what shud i do. i think because the mobo makes the rams work at only 400mhz, there are lags in the HD movie playback . Is this right ?

plz advice.
 
^. Intel dual core was never crap ever since Core2 Duo was launched... The E5200 is the best cpu in its class for overclocking... At stock its on par with X2 7750 in some tests & slightly lower in others including gaming... Its a good OC option for people on a budget..

First you should make up your mind if you want to OC the cpu or not... If you are not interested in OC then you can look into X2 7750 which performs better than E5200 @ stock...

The ATI chipset mobo are not that bad... Infact its the best onboard in its league... The RAM frequency in BIOS is correct.. the mobo uses Double Data Rate Memory which in plain terms mean the output frequency is double...

400 x 2 = 800 Mhz.. So your friends memory was indeed running in full capacity... :) No worries there...

Also the lag in HD decoding depends on software settings which should be configured to use the UVD (Universal Video Decoder) built in the 780G chipset.... Its not stressed by default... I think there was a guide here on TE which explained how to make sure to hardware decode the HD files using UVD...

Since you are getting a graphic card you are not limited to 780G chipset... so not limited to M3A78-EM.... But this mobo is pretty good for a HTPC as well if you want to move to that platform latter... So a good future investment...

Biostar 790GX will give you much better OC results but does not have the fancy features of M3A78-EM... You have to weigh in what features you need & what you can live without... Its also a good option....
 
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anfjavid said:
dudes thanx for ur responses. You all suggest a e5200, but its dual core right ?. intel dual core is pakka crap.. This statement is made by the TE members itself many times. Now I dont understand y u all are suggesting this processor.

And with regard to the mobo, is M3(A)78-em ok or even that has the same overvoltage issue.?. Because a cousin of mine bought this processor sometime back and the bios indicated that the RAM speed is 400mhz, on the contrary he has 2x2gb 800mhz transcend ram. He has tried all the settings even replaced his memory and the ram bus speed is only half the speed of what he is having.

He has connected samsung Plasma HDTV to his pc with the above mobo (M3A78-em ) and he reported me that the HD movies lag . After that he replaced that mobo with a m2nvm hdmi and the issue resloved.

From that time i started hating any mobo with ATI chipset.

Now tell me guys what shud i do. i think because the mobo makes the rams work at only 400mhz, there are lags in the HD movie playback . Is this right ?

plz advice.
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Who told you this re?
E5200 + Giga G31 is a favourite combo around here.
Dual core and Core 2 Duo are the same thing, for the hundred'th time. Its just marketting propaganda.
Buy the above combo, OC E5200 to 3.3-3.5Ghz on stock cooler, nothing beats this in terms of price to performance ratio.

Ram speed in BIOS or monitoring tools is usually reported that way, just multiply it by 2 and you get the actual speed.
400 shown = 800Mhz.
 
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Amien said:
Who told you this re?
Dual core and Core 2 Duo are the same thing, for the hundred'th time. Its just marketting propaganda.
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am soooo happy to hear this.... :hap2: :ohyeah: :clap:
I was also in this confusion that core2duo is "much" better than dual core.
btw, how much faster is e7400 @stock than e5200@3.2ghz with an ati4770 card and 4gb ram in games ??
 
goodakash said:
am soooo happy to hear this.... :hap2: :ohyeah: :clap:
I was also in this confusion that core2duo is "much" better than dual core.
btw, how much faster is e7400 @stock than e5200@3.2ghz with an ati4770 card and 4gb ram in games ??
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AFAIK they are equal once you get the E5200 to 3+ Ghz and more than ~1100 FSB after which the edge due to the 1MB extra cache fades away.
I built a rig for a friend recently, using a Giga G31+E7400 with 4GB of Gskill Pi Blacks and an HD 4850.
Once i got my E5200 and OC'ed it to 3.3Ghz(300x10= 1200FSB, stock voltage and cooler), i beat the 3D mark06 score set on his config by 1k or so points. And this was with a slightly less powerfull GPU and 2 GB of RAM + exact same mobo.
 
goodakash said:
U got it to 3.3ghz 1200fsb on stock voltage and cooler ?? Wow man ! Whts the temp like ??
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Funny thing, no rise in temp, maybe a 2 degree or so rise on max load when stress/stability testing.
I don't think i need to tell you i am a fan of the E5200 :happy: , but this applies to most of the 45nm chips.
 
if there is enuf budget, get the E5200 with a gud P35 mobo from Gigabyte or MSI. and also MSI P45Neo-F mobo is available for around 5.5k.

But if not going to O.C, then I suggest to get the X2 7850 + 780G combo, or E7400+ P45 combo if Intel is needed.
 
j1n M@tt said:
if there is enuf budget, get the E5200 with a gud P35 mobo from Gigabyte or MSI. and also MSI P45Neo-F mobo is available for around 5.5k.

But if not going to O.C, then I suggest to get the X2 7850 + 780G combo, or E7400+ P45 combo if Intel is needed.
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No reason to do this, it's a waste of money IMO.
If you're buying E5200, get the Giga G31's, those boards listed have nothing that warrants spending double the cash you spend on the former.

If you want to spend more, look at a Phenom II x3 CPU+Mobo combo instead of pairing the E7400 with an expensive mobo to get any sort of meaningful performance advantage.
 
actually guys what happened to my cousin's system is even with the m2nvm hdmi he faced the same lag problem in HD movies and then he got a 8400gs grafix card and then only issue resolved. I think he has mistaken the M3a78em , since it shows as 400mhz ram . Even in the mobo manual nothing is specified regarding this.

Ok now i will go on with the 7850 + M3A78em. But i dont think the 7850 is available in the chennai market. will wait until it that . Only 7750 be is available .

And i have no xpereince in Ocing guys. Also i feel ocing the CPU/GPU shortens their life time. I always run these in stock... So ocing is not my option.

In future if i bcome an OCing expert i may think about that . Neither i have oced my gfx card nor my CPU till now .....

Anyway thanx for ur advice guys.
 
anfjavid said:
actually guys what happened to my cousin's system is even with the m2nvm hdmi he faced the same lag problem in HD movies and then he got a 8400gs grafix card and then only issue resolved. I think he has mistaken the M3a78em , since it shows as 400mhz ram . Even in the mobo manual nothing is specified regarding this.

Ok now i will go on with the 7850 + M3A78em. But i dont think the 7850 is available in the chennai market. will wait until it that . Only 7750 be is available .

And i have no xpereince in Ocing guys. Also i feel ocing the CPU/GPU shortens their life time. I always run these in stock... So ocing is not my option.

In future if i bcome an OCing expert i may think about that . Neither i have oced my gfx card nor my CPU till now .....

Anyway thanx for ur advice guys.
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Read, ask and increase your knowledge of OCing, moderate overclocking doesn't have any side effects if you know what you're doing.

No matter how good the IGP, a standalone card will always be better for video processing/gaming.

I say again, for the price, nothing beats E5200+Gigabyte G31.
The rest is upto you :)
 
^^... There is not much difference b/w 7750 & 7850 CPU.. only 100Mhz increase in stock.... I would recommend you to go for 7750 only & you can try your hand in minor OC which M3A78-EM provides since there is no fine tuning in the BIOS.... It has basic OC feature if you ever need to...

Also a new X2 will be launched in June 2009.. It will be 45nm Callisto core (Phenom II) which will start @ 3.0 Ghz stock.... If you can wait then it would be much better than X2 7750/7850.. It will run cooler & will have much OC headroom if you prefer...
 
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