CPU/Mobo AMD Bulldozer Review

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mrcool63 said:
the anandtech review is skewered.. the other reviews clearly point that BD is good in multi-threaded apps.. see x264 2nd pass and gaming benchmarks on other sites..

and intel is optimized for civ 5.. dont quote that.. see others

You cannot gauge CPU performance on games at higher resolutions, as they get GPU limited. Look at the difference at lower resolution, dual core Intel performs better.

AMD's FX-8150 'Bulldozer' processor - The Tech Report - Page 7
 
mrcool63 said:
oc'ing wise check this out...

AMD FX-8150 Processor Review - Bulldozer Arrives - AMD FX-8150 CPU Overclocking - Legit Reviews

4.9ghz with all 8 cores running is quite good...

Also these reviews are so confusing.. guru3d and techspot and hardocp have shown great results but some others have not... weird and confusing

After drawing a consensus from about 25 reviews (links in Today's Reviews on the front page), it emerges that:

•AMD FX-8150 is missing its performance expectations by a fair margin. Not to mention performance gains in its own presentation, these expectations were built up by how AMD was shaping the product to be a full-fledged enthusiast product with significant performance gains over the previous generation
•AMD ill-marketed the FX-8150. Hype is a double-edged sword, and should not be used if you're not confident your offering will live up to at least most of the hype. AMD marketed at least the top-tier FX-8000 series eight-core processors as the second coming of Athlon64 FX.

Source : -techPowerUp! - The latest in hardware and gaming

More : -http://www.techpowerup.com/153452/Review-Consensus-AMD-FX-Processor-8150-Underwhelming.html
 
Also the sad part is that this is the B2 stepping. So unless there is a ,B3 stepping well no chance of any more improvements.

--- Updated Post - Automerged ---

the original and b1 stepping were not well recieved by the partners, thats why the proccy got delay, according to some links months ago.
 
rakesh_sharma23 said:
Very disappointing. PII-X6 is better.

Actually! Now it seems to me had they just introduced new Turbo and reworked the architecture a bit(optimizations) of Phenom II series, got out a Phenom II X6 or if possible X8(I know the architecture is limited to 6 cores aka Thuban), in 32nm and pushed the clocks to 4GHz, it might have actually performed better.

And it would have been with a smaller die size, smaller power footprint too.

Clock for Clock, AMD's grandpa(now) Phenom II X4 v/s a BD 4 core(4 disabled)

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I am surprised by only one thing, its AMD's unbelievable will to win! Intel, for fear being labelled anti-competitive and for higher margins, has always allowed AMD to rule the budget gaming segment. If anyone wants a quad-core for less than 6000, even now the Phenom II X4 955 is the way to go. With a decent graphics card like the Radeon 6850/70 there are very few games that do not run smoothly on the Phenom II but run smoothly on Core i5 2400. And the situation is likely to remain the same at least for a couple of years. AMD could have easily maintained this status quo by rolling out a tweaked Phenom II which is around 20% slower than a i5 2400 and priced competitively at around 150$ and stay live for the next couple of years. But, instead they come out something radically different from Phenom and attempt to upstage Intel again. In my estimation they have failed horribly, but the fact is they tried something very different and took a huge risk and it backfired.

Bulldozer, as it stands, is not a good buy primarily because of the very bad single threaded performance, and even worse power consumption. AMD is lying when they say the TDP is 125w for FX-8150. It seems to be close to 150, but of course no actual way to measure this. If pile driver can improve single-threaded performance by 20% and the same time bring down power consumption by 20% (I am asking a lot), AMD will get to a situation where they can make some money. Pile driver will probably decide the future of the CPU industry as it will launch around the time Windows 8 launches. With the release of Windows 8, low power and ultra cheap ARM desktops might start eating away AMD's market share in the low-end spectrum, and Intel with Ivy Bridge might be able to produce a Quad core at 65w TDP will dominate the high end. AMD must find a way to squeeze in between these two markets with pile driver.
 
i think its a strategy to lure customer with cores

'come on i have a 8 core CPU from AMD how can you compare 4 core i5 with it' this could be a reality for many noobs
 
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