News Apple does away with headphone jack in iPhone 7

Jeez if you're stooping to pedantry, let me tell you the forward slash sometimes serves the function of and+or. By getting damaged I meant they are more prone to get cracked screens in pockets, slippery devices that feel like you're holding 4 eggs in your hand and the occasional bending in some phones.
As for the DAC, there already are headphones with lightning connectors with in-built DAC's in the market. It doesn't take a genius to see how they'll accomodate ones with 3.5mm jacks.
I'm neither an apple hater or an android fanboy so stop taking me for one. Like you said already, lets wait and watch for the inevitable flood of overpriced Beats gear during the keynote.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Read...-Lightning-connector-announced-so-far_id77270
 
Apple buys beats music for a whopping price & now a rumor of proprietary audio jack on the iPhone 7, which means of course almost all future Apple devices will be bundled with it.

I think it's (proprietary audio out) as a well thought inclusion, even before buying beats music (niche marketing technique perhaps) ; we're up for something new and pricey of course. Apple is planning tech developments at least 5 year ahead, remember the Voice of SIRI was recorded 5 yrs before it was launched.

Initially only the newer Beats headphones are likely to be compatible, rest will have to adapt to get that "iPhone compatible headphones " badge on the box.

There'll be paid reviews of "how ground breaking the technology is" & non Apple supporters will mention that as an important Cons of the device (at least in the first generation). Apple buyers will be forced to upgrade (nothing uncomfortable for them anyway ) others will keep cribbing. IPhone 6s/+ buyers will be the worst hit, if such a proprietary technology is introduced in iPhone 7.

But ultimately, is it a technology worth adopting? which will determine its survival.
Remember HD DVD? Tech Giants Like Intel & Microsoft couldn't force it over Blu-ray. It's too premature to conclude, let's wait and watch.
 
psyph3r said:
Jeez if you're stooping to pedantry, let me tell you the forward slash sometimes serves the function of and+or. By getting damaged I meant they are more prone to get cracked screens in pockets, slippery devices that feel like you're holding 4 eggs in your hand and the occasional bending in some phones.
As for the DAC, there already are headphones with lightning connectors with in-built DAC's in the market. It doesn't take a genius to see how they'll accomodate ones with 3.5mm jacks.
I'm neither an apple hater or an android fanboy so stop taking me for one. Like you said already, lets wait and watch for the inevitable flood of overpriced Beats gear during the keynote.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Read...-Lightning-connector-announced-so-far_id77270
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So please wait for it to release before jumping the gun. Since you do not belong to either of the cults you may better be neutral than cynical since you dont feel the vibes of either fan base. So stop adding something you arent sure of and are speculating at the moment.

To simply put - hold your guns
 
Apple is also working on noise-cancelling headphones which will not be part of the box. Instead, iPhone 7 owners will have to buy these separately from Apple, suggesting that Apple is working on new Lightning connected earpods, possibly branded under Beats, that might be released along iPhone 7.
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Apple has registered the “AirPods” trademark which may be what these are called.
The headphones are planned to be a premium alternative to a new version of the EarPods, and are highly likely to be sold separately from the iPhone 7; a comparable model from Bragi will retail for $300. As has been previously rumored, sources confirm that the iPhone 7 will not include a standard headphone jack and will instead require headphones to connect via the Lightning connector or wirelessly over Bluetooth. The ability for headphones to connect over Lightning has been included in iOS since 2014, and new EarPods will support this.
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http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/08/iphone-7-wireless-headphones-beats/
 
Is anybody really surprised about this? Considering this is Apple we are talking about, its long over due I would say. They can make more moolah by selling accessories and they can get royalties whenever somebody has to depend on their proprietary connectors.

All ear phones/head phones for iPhone 7 will probably cost a minimum of $80 or so and they will also sell some accessory with a DAC to use your 3.5 mm head phones for $150 or more. Most likely they will also stop bundling any ear buds in the package.

Apple user base exists for the sole purpose of being milked by them and others and the audio companies would also be happy to milk them.
 
drkrack said:
But ultimately, is it a technology worth adopting? which will determine its survival.
Remember HD DVD? Tech Giants Like Intel & Microsoft couldn't force it over Blu-ray. It's too premature to conclude, let's wait and watch.
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Worthiness of a technology has nothing to do with its survival. Sony forced Memory stick Duo's on the users of their products for over a decade. It did not survive so long because its superior to other flash memory formats. Literally no body other than Sony used it and yet, it still exists to day just because it was used on a variety of successful Sony products.

Similarly, the reason HD DVD lost the race has nothing to do with technology.

Sony chose to make it the format used by PS3 (unlike MS where its just an add on) and selling PS3s at a loss ($600 for a device that cost close to $900 in parts and big chunk of the cost was attributed to the blue ray reader)
While movie studios initially supported both formats, lobbying shifted the scales in favor of Blue ray. Also majority of Porn studios decided to go with Blue Ray format.
 
Seriously guys Does it matter?

Sheeple will continue buying Apple products and Sheeple will adapt....Just like they adapted their grip to hold their iphones correctly....And the rest of the Android fanboys will scream themselves hoarse.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
Worthiness of a technology has nothing to do with its survival. Sony forced Memory stick Duo's on the users of their products for over a decade. It did not survive so long because its superior to other flash memory formats. Literally no body other than Sony used it and yet, it still exists to day just because it was used on a variety of successful Sony products.

Similarly, the reason HD DVD lost the race has nothing to do with technology.

Sony chose to make it the format used by PS3 (unlike MS where its just an add on) and selling PS3s at a loss ($600 for a device that cost close to $900 in parts and big chunk of the cost was attributed to the blue ray reader)
While movie studios initially supported both formats, lobbying shifted the scales in favor of Blue ray. Also majority of Porn studios decided to go with Blue Ray format.
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That & many such policies is the reason, once a market leader Sony; is in such a position right now. BluRay wouldn't have survived had the technology been exclusive to Sony.
The audio Jack on Iphone is going to be exclusive, as of now. Apple will sell Beats headphones along , trying to cash more on popularity of iPhone. It may end up being loner , similar to a situation when Jobs Re-Joined the company. Only difference this time is with cash reserves far more than US Govt itself. I'm not seeing anything groundbreaking coming from them after Jobs death, with iPhone 6s not being that popular such a proprietary port move could be disastrous (But Risk is a part of business, they did iPad Pro much against all of their proclaimed principles).

Let's see if it's a superior technology after all ? before making conclusions. The reason BT Headphones aren't popular is because of a perceived loss of sound quality associated with Transmission etc, if Apple can change that; I'd gladly upgrade, I hate wired headphones anyway. There will be many who'd adopt if it can convince them about a superiority of a new technology. The reverse will happen if it's a technology unworthy of up gradation & Apple tries to force it by way of its popularity alone.
 
What I am trying to say is that market survival and success has nothing to do with the technology or its worthiness.

Technologies can survive in the market just because of a vendor lock in. Memory Stick format has remained in the market to this day despite its high cost because this. HD DVD too would be alive right now if it had been the default disc format in XBOX 360.

A lot of people absolutely hate the lightning connector because its prone to easy damage (there is a class action suit for this), but its not going anywhere as long as people want to buy iPhone's and Apple remains unaffected by the lawsuit.

If Apple make it the default digital out for head phones and the like, there would be a plethora of ear phones and head phones and people who get iPhone's will buy them too. But it doesn't make it worthy of survival. It survives simply because of vendor lock in.
 
drkrack said:
Apple buys beats music for a whopping price & now a rumor of proprietary audio jack on the iPhone 7, which means of course almost all future Apple devices will be bundled with it.

I think it's (proprietary audio out) as a well thought inclusion, even before buying beats music (niche marketing technique perhaps)
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If this is true, then this is a courageous and stupid decision
 
iPwnz said:
The problem is not really Apple but the others who might follow this.
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Right. I am not advocating what apple does is correct or not. But in reality, if Apple changes something, irrespective of the criticism it receives from anyone and everyone, the manufacturers will line up to make accessories or whatever needed to sell the apple device owners.
 
^^ It may be a bummer for the customer, but this is always a good thing for accessory manufacturers. A person who already has nice pair of ear phones would still end up buying another pair because of iPhone 7. Its generating new business, so why would it be a bad thing.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble, but no where have I said that I am in favor of corporate leeching. I believe in fair dealings. People should get what they pay for. Don't let corporate's leech you, but don't expect that they ought to becomes charities ready to serve you for free or do special favors at your bidding. They are are in business only for profits and as long as there are profits.

I am against businesses which try to take advantage of customers, but I am just as much against customers who think they are kings and the business owners their slaves just because they are giving them their business. There should be balance of fair expectations and fair service.

Also, read my previous post in the thread for context, what I am saying is that its not a bad thing from the perspective of accessory manufacturers. They would welcome a move that would get them more money. If it were not Apple, I would have even said that some of them lobbied for it. Apple however has been doing this kind of stuff for a long time for their own business, So the only thing I am surprised about is that they waited so long.

Only the customers would be screwed with this move and in Apples case, their fan's are paying to get screwed by Apple anyway's.
 
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Lord Nemesis said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but no where have I said that I am in favor of corporate leeching. I believe in fair dealings. People should get what they pay for. Don't let corporate's leech you, but don't expect that they ought to becomes charities ready to serve you for free or do special favors at your bidding. They are are in business only for profits and as long as there are profits.

I am against businesses which try to take advantage of customers, but I am just as much against customers who think they are kings and the business owners their slaves just because they are giving them their business. There should be balance in that relationship.

Also, read my previous post in the thread for context, what I am saying is that its not a bad thing from the perspective of accessory manufacturers. They would welcome a move that would get them more money. If it were not Apple, I would have even said that some of them lobbied for it. Apple however has been doing this kind of stuff for a long time for their own business, So the only thing I am surprised about is that they waited so long.

Only the customers would be screwed with this move and in Apples case, their fan's are paying to get screwed by Apple anyway's.
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Lord Nemesis said:
I am against businesses who try to take advantage of customers, but I am just as much against customers who think they are kings and the business owners their slaves just because they are giving them their business.
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A business wont exist if it doesnt get customers!
 
^^
It goes vice versa as well. If you need a damn thing more than what you can do/build/grow by yourself (i.e. unless you are completely self sufficient), you end up being dependent on some business to get it. You are not doing a favor to the business and they are not doing you a favor. There is mutual exchange of service and remuneration for that.

If a business is tolerating bad customers too much, that will almost always have a wider impact like their service to other more reasonable customers getting compromised. Most good business places would not flinch at throwing out unreasonable customers who take their "customer is king" arrogance too far. I have personally seen instances where businesses that dared to throw out unreasonable customers attract more business. As I said, there should be a balance of customers expectations and service. Unreasonable behavior impacts experience for everybody and it would be in best interests of both customers and businesses for such behavior to be not tolerated.
 
derp said:
why are you pro corporate leeching?
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See, the thing is, as you have mentioned that businesses won't exist without the customers.
This has happened with Apple in the past, and the future looks bleaker for them ever since Jobs' death.
The onus, in this case, lies with the buyers to see that they are being milked as Apple is not doing anything unethical. They are not holding a gun to the head of the people to stand outside in lines as if a messiah is being born.

Moves like these might bring in some extra sales, but IMO they will accelerate the downfall as well.

But it was bound to happen sooner or later as the mobile phone market is now past the saturation point. I have been using the OPO for over a year now and I don't feel any need to upgrade. Same is the case with most of the people who bought a flagship phone last year.
 
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