One more thing i would like to add is that sometimes work gets too laborious in the IT industry. Else its fun. Bench is definitely fun. 
Aptitude Tests for Jobs really needed or just for show off ?
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mehrotra.akash
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Being in final year myself, some of the stuff here seems irrelevant.
Have sat for 3 companies, all of them had extremely different processes
A)
Schneider electric
Written test : 50% programming, 50% Aptitude+English (about 19 people cleared it)
Interview 1: 15 min Basic Technical Screening (8 people cleared)
Interview 2: 46-60 minute Technical discussion with Schneider Bangalore Director based on your fav. subject, projects,etc. You can guide the interview yourself if you want (6 people cleared)
Interview 3: 15 min HR interview Explained Salary details, growth structure, bond details and 1-2 basic HR questions like describe yourself in 1 word,etc
B)
Honeywell (Internship)
Written Test: 100% programming
Followed by GD and then 30-40 min tech interview
The person taking the interview would be your mentor during the internship
C)
Accenture
30 minute Tech+HR interview
Tech part was relatively easy, however the HR lady was TOUGH
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If you want to know the process of a specific company, PM me.
IF they've come to my campus, I'll be able to give you an idea
Have sat for 3 companies, all of them had extremely different processes
A)
Schneider electric
Written test : 50% programming, 50% Aptitude+English (about 19 people cleared it)
Interview 1: 15 min Basic Technical Screening (8 people cleared)
Interview 2: 46-60 minute Technical discussion with Schneider Bangalore Director based on your fav. subject, projects,etc. You can guide the interview yourself if you want (6 people cleared)
Interview 3: 15 min HR interview Explained Salary details, growth structure, bond details and 1-2 basic HR questions like describe yourself in 1 word,etc
B)
Honeywell (Internship)
Written Test: 100% programming
Followed by GD and then 30-40 min tech interview
The person taking the interview would be your mentor during the internship
C)
Accenture
30 minute Tech+HR interview
Tech part was relatively easy, however the HR lady was TOUGH
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@OP
If you want to know the process of a specific company, PM me.
IF they've come to my campus, I'll be able to give you an idea
mehrotra.akash
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avi said:^Thank you very much
why not reply here only so that it can be helpful to others also ?
Infy
Dont come to my college so no idea about Infy
TCS
Walkin interview for most people, easier to get into than accenture
If you have a lower GPA, then you have to write their Aptitude test. Its the same all India, so if you get your hands on one of the papers, passing is not an issue
Cognizant
Dont come
Mindtree [my entire class is crazy to get into this, is it really that good ?]
Guess its better than the MRC's, but still not great
Mphasis
Coming to college in about a week, will tell you then
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RVK2488 said:
Happened with many people here as well.
The 30 min interviews were mostly for those who didnt give the written.
TheOtherGuy
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^Yup, it had some brilliant moments in the past.
I'd recommend you guys to avoid the Big two Indian It companies if possible, they are not exactly bad but avoidable at best.
I'd recommend you guys to avoid the Big two Indian It companies if possible, they are not exactly bad but avoidable at best.
You need to be thinking which companies have a future, because only then your own future will be safe to begin with. You can always venture out on your own, but that's probably at a later stage
Chaoseater
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First things first Felt offended(Being a Commerce student and pursuing Chartered Accountancy), Please do not be into misinterpretation that commerce students are into technical part. Professions like CA, ICWA involves lot of technicalities in their own respective subject.
BTW, apti is to test your Presence of mind and how speedily you address the problems too.
No way. The things you learn at a "biggie" will help you out in future. A friend of mine moved from I**y to H*L, and he tells me he's shocked at the level of processes used there. He's getting Star of the month awards, by doing things that would have been considered routine at I**y.TheOtherGuy said:
mehrotra.akash
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Vince said:
Assuming I'm interpreting the *'s correctly, isnt that a downgrade?
The 2nd one is close to a govt dept. from what a friend told me after interning there
Vince said:
Well, I think your friend ought to be happy, and not shocked! Soon a promotion or two will come his way. Once he gets 2+yrs experience, he can move back to Infy and get another promotion!
One cannot always expect a candidate to have sufficient technical skills or domain knowledge to start being productive from day one. So companies often look for people who approach problems with a positive outlook and use their inane ability to tackle them. Such people usually also have the right attitude to learn and improve themselves with time. That is where things like Aptitude tests come into the picture.
In some cases a written preliminary round is not just a test of technical or general mental skills either. I had to go through such a prileminary round (online) as part of my campus recruitment many years back. The test consisted to 60 questions in total divided into 5 sections and spanned across multiple pages (HTML pages).
1. Analytical (10 points)
2. Reading comprehension (10 points)
3. Numerical Aptitude (10 points)
4. General Computing (10 points)
5. Programming (20 points)
I got the highest score in that test and the next highest score was far away from me as per the interviewer. They had deliberately set the sections in the order that I mentioned. While most candidates would blindly attempt the sections in the original order, I attempted the sections in the order 4, 5, 3, 2, 1.
Analytical questions each had a paragraph of text that spanned more than half a page after which the actual question was asked. solving the question required reading and understanding the entire paragraph. That is going to take quite a bit of time. same was the case with reading comprehension questions expect that they were about understanding English than reasoning. both the sections combined together where only worth 20 marks while the rest of the sections were worth 40 marks. anyone who blindly followed the original order for attempting the test spent a lot of time on the first two sections for the 20 marks and had very little time for the rest of the sections that accounted for 40 marks. They pretty much simulated a real industry situation in the test. The test was not just about testing your problem solving skills or technical skills, but also about your smartness in tackling situations such as these.
So don't take such tests for granted. You may think that they are wasting your time by making you do mental math or working out logic, but they may also indirectly test other aspects of your capabilities without you knowing about it.
As for technical rounds, companies do use them as necessary. Not all companies require tough technical rounds. Quite often candidates (freshers especially) don't have an understanding of the extent or limitation of their own technical skills. So its unfair to expect interviewers to completely rely on technical tests when most of the candidates are not upto it.
In fact, I have interviewed loads of candidates (both freshers and experienced) myself and I have seen candidates giving bloated ratings when I ask for a self assessment of their programming skills. I have seen guy's throw figures like 9 or 9.5/10 for their own C/C++ skills and yet they do not have an understanding of the most basic features/concepts of the language nor the capacity to apply their programming skills to convert a problem into a computer solution. I often ask questions like
"Describe how you would put together a program to calculate the value of Pi to 100 digits after decimal"
"Describe how you would go about writing a program that would work out the water jugs problem"
and rarely have I seen candidates even bothering to try. In many cases they just give up without even trying to understand the question and attempting to solve it.
In some cases a written preliminary round is not just a test of technical or general mental skills either. I had to go through such a prileminary round (online) as part of my campus recruitment many years back. The test consisted to 60 questions in total divided into 5 sections and spanned across multiple pages (HTML pages).
1. Analytical (10 points)
2. Reading comprehension (10 points)
3. Numerical Aptitude (10 points)
4. General Computing (10 points)
5. Programming (20 points)
I got the highest score in that test and the next highest score was far away from me as per the interviewer. They had deliberately set the sections in the order that I mentioned. While most candidates would blindly attempt the sections in the original order, I attempted the sections in the order 4, 5, 3, 2, 1.
Analytical questions each had a paragraph of text that spanned more than half a page after which the actual question was asked. solving the question required reading and understanding the entire paragraph. That is going to take quite a bit of time. same was the case with reading comprehension questions expect that they were about understanding English than reasoning. both the sections combined together where only worth 20 marks while the rest of the sections were worth 40 marks. anyone who blindly followed the original order for attempting the test spent a lot of time on the first two sections for the 20 marks and had very little time for the rest of the sections that accounted for 40 marks. They pretty much simulated a real industry situation in the test. The test was not just about testing your problem solving skills or technical skills, but also about your smartness in tackling situations such as these.
So don't take such tests for granted. You may think that they are wasting your time by making you do mental math or working out logic, but they may also indirectly test other aspects of your capabilities without you knowing about it.
As for technical rounds, companies do use them as necessary. Not all companies require tough technical rounds. Quite often candidates (freshers especially) don't have an understanding of the extent or limitation of their own technical skills. So its unfair to expect interviewers to completely rely on technical tests when most of the candidates are not upto it.
In fact, I have interviewed loads of candidates (both freshers and experienced) myself and I have seen candidates giving bloated ratings when I ask for a self assessment of their programming skills. I have seen guy's throw figures like 9 or 9.5/10 for their own C/C++ skills and yet they do not have an understanding of the most basic features/concepts of the language nor the capacity to apply their programming skills to convert a problem into a computer solution. I often ask questions like
"Describe how you would put together a program to calculate the value of Pi to 100 digits after decimal"
"Describe how you would go about writing a program that would work out the water jugs problem"
and rarely have I seen candidates even bothering to try. In many cases they just give up without even trying to understand the question and attempting to solve it.
mehrotra.akash said:
It may be but they are earning some real good profits now and have been bagging good projects.
avi
Keymaster
@Lord - thanks for sharing your experience
I think it'll come down again to Murthy vs Bhagat, because currently in my college they are giving coaching to students for campus recruitment. Each students has to pay 3.5K for 5-6 days of training [compulsory :|]. Last time, same coaching team had come and the paper they prepared in mock tests were exactly same to those of companies with minor changes in numericals. And this time also they claim that their mock papers will be almost similar.
Lord Nemesis said:
I think it'll come down again to Murthy vs Bhagat, because currently in my college they are giving coaching to students for campus recruitment. Each students has to pay 3.5K for 5-6 days of training [compulsory :|]. Last time, same coaching team had come and the paper they prepared in mock tests were exactly same to those of companies with minor changes in numericals. And this time also they claim that their mock papers will be almost similar.
My company also deploys a technical test which we use to sieve out level one candidates. After that we give them a technical one for programing and/or RDBMS depending on what we are seeking at that time. These are given "out of office" so they can complete using their own resources within 48 hours. Post that we actually meet them and gauge them for fitment and did they really give the test. We ask basic analytical ability and some guesstimate questions. "How many petrol pumps in New Delhi", "How many ping-pong balls would fit in this room". Is a mix and match of various factors.
avi
Keymaster
@all - thank you for replying & sharing your experiences
So guys none of these are product based companies ? All are service based ? I mean like totally ? or some are both ?
Infy
TCS
Cognizant
Mindtree
Mphasis
Tech Mahindra
Aricent
Accenture
CTS
also how do I find out about particular company whether it is product based or service ?
So guys none of these are product based companies ? All are service based ? I mean like totally ? or some are both ?
Infy
TCS
Cognizant
Mindtree
Mphasis
Tech Mahindra
Aricent
Accenture
CTS
also how do I find out about particular company whether it is product based or service ?
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